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slick
#101 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2020 3:39:46 PM
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lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



Its lalala land now Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
rwitre
#102 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:23:09 PM
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Joined: 3/8/2018
Posts: 507
Location: Nairobi
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



Its lalala land now Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion



Negative rates have reached US treasury tbills

Reggae continues
slick
#103 Posted : Thursday, March 19, 2020 9:51:28 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
rwitre wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



Its lalala land now Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion



Negative rates have reached US treasury tbills

Reggae continues


Wow nominal yield on the US 3 month tbill is 0.01%.Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Eventually it will hit negative.For the 1 and 6 month its 0.04% as I write this.If you consider US grossly mistated inflation is about 2%,then real yield is -2%.In fact,if you bought even the 30 year with current yield of 1.76%,you still lose money if factor in inflation.So you park your money for 30 years for a negative real return.Ok to be fair what really happens is that investors arent looking for that paltry yield but capital appreciation when they trade them in the secondary market.Its how negative yielding bonds in the Eurozone and Japan have lasted for a number of years now provided you arent the sucker who holds to maturity and loses money.At some point last year,the entire German government bond market upto the 30 year bond was negative yielding.Now thats just nuts but its the world we live in.
Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
lochaz-index
#104 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 7:32:50 AM
Rank: Veteran


Joined: 9/18/2014
Posts: 1,127
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



Its lalala land now Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion

CBs should be looking to save face instead of displaying their impotence for the whole world to see. They've literally thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the problem yet there is no reaction. Governments and CBs should be forward-looking as to what the stock market is signaling aka potential weak spots in the economy and how to mitigate them not these sort of reactionary moves. The Fed has clearly lost in the repo market yet it doubles down on liquidity spigots with nary an examination of the structural problems causing the spike demand.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
slick
#105 Posted : Friday, March 20, 2020 11:10:51 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 6/1/2017
Posts: 288
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
slick wrote:
wukan wrote:
This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



Its lalala land now Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion

CBs should be looking to save face instead of displaying their impotence for the whole world to see. They've literally thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the problem yet there is no reaction. Governments and CBs should be forward-looking as to what the stock market is signaling aka potential weak spots in the economy and how to mitigate them not these sort of reactionary moves. The Fed has clearly lost in the repo market yet it doubles down on liquidity spigots with nary an examination of the structural problems causing the spike demand.



The central banks (at least as constituted in the Western world) should be abolished.First,the Fed isnt a government agency and holds no real reserves.The Fed is owned by member banks ie the big 6 Wall Street Banks ie JP Morgan,Citigroup,Bank of America,Wells Fargo,Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley plus other shadowy entities not disclosed to the public.True shareholding of the Fed is a closely guarded secret.Do you think the trillions being printed for bailouts and to prop up overleveraged bubble stocks and bonds is being freely given by the Fed to the US government and corporations?Hell No.These are loans to the US serikali and corporates which they have to pay with interest.So the Fed creates fiat currency from nothing,lends it out and expects to be paid with interest??Wow its exactly like I type 1 trillion on my computer screen and give it to my someone and we both agree its money enforceable by law,he goes out and performs a labour and has to return that 1 trillion I conjured up by computer keystrokes plus interest.So where is the interest to come from if I only created 1 trillion in the first instance.He or another entity has to borrow more conjured up currency created by me to pay the interest and this newly borrowed money also has an interest payment attached to it so even more currency has to be borrowed from me and this perpetual cycle continues.So do commercial banks do the same.Almost everyone assumes that banks loan cash deposited by clients.Thats not entirely true.Banks create new money from nothing when you take out a loan and charge you interest.The amount of deposits only limits the amount of new loans a bank can create (what is known as reserve ratio)and if in a country a bank has a zero reserve ratio like the Fed lowered this ratio to zero last Sunday,then a bank can theoretically make infinite amount of loans and hold zero reserves for depositors.Kenya has a reserve ratio of 5.25% essentially meaning commercial banks increase the money supply by nearly twenty times.This whole concept is known as debt based fiat fractional reserve banking system.It may take sometime to fully appreciate it but when you do it will blow your mind away and have a true feel of the nefarious nature of current central and commercial banking.It would take me many hours and paragraphs to explain it so let me leave a few videos here that captures the gist of what I am saying








So the government pays the Fed with tax money levied on its citizens.Money the Fed created from nothing??Thats just nuts and fraud.Its this nature of central banking that the US founding fathers fought so viciously against and US abolished the first 2 central banks and the current fed formed in 1913 was created in such a sly,secretive manner.The book "The Creature from Jekyll Island" explains this but there are many videos on this plus on fractional reserve banking.

So the whole system sucks and stinks

Contrarian Investor and Trader.Advocate of free markets,limited government interference in the economy and sound money
NewMoney
#106 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:32:11 AM
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Posts: 170
Location: Nairobi
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum
sumuni
#107 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 3:39:24 AM
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Joined: 6/24/2007
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Location: Afrique
NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum

To be honest, I really enjoy his point of view of the financial system, especially the US. So @slick, I choose to take the red pill, to stay in wonderland. Show us how deep the rabbit hole goes.
It is a curious fact that of all the illusions that beset mankind, none is quite as curious as that tendency to suppose that we are mentally and morally superior to those who differ from us in opinion.
wukan
#108 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 7:39:00 AM
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Joined: 11/13/2015
Posts: 1,589
NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


Groupthink is dangerous in a crisis. @Slick, please don't be discouraged

Quote:
Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs.[1] This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation.

Groupthink requires individuals to avoid raising controversial issues or alternative solutions, and there is loss of individual creativity, uniqueness and independent thinking.

slick
#109 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 7:58:09 AM
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NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


@NewMoney No conspiracy theory.Just facts that some may find unbelievable and too painful to swallow.I back up all my utterances with appropriate screenshots,links and videos.99% of people assume that the Western financial system is sound and to be emulated yet in reality its quite a decadent rot beneath the veneer of majesty.Yes Western tech is awesome but in terms of economics and monetary policy it quite appalling.The fact that Western central banks buy their own government and corporate bonds and some even stocks from money created out of nothing is quite damning.I seek to expose these shenanigans.If you feel its too much for you,you are free not to look at this thread
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slick
#110 Posted : Saturday, March 21, 2020 10:36:42 AM
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A good video on the new money printing liquidity injections the Fed rolled out this week to bailout the money market funds,commercial paper market,corporate bond market,municipal bond market,stock market,forex currency swap lines with foreign central banks like the European Central Bank and Bank of Japan and helicopter money for the populace.The trillions being printed by the Fed is staggering to the mind.

To give a sense of what a trillion means,1 trillion seconds is 31,709.8 years ago and the Fed is unleashing trillions daily


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyj-unafl4A

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#111 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2020 9:24:02 PM
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NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


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Slick is a genius with a facile mind who learns quick, knows much and understands how the world really works.
Just because you do not get the truths he is telling you does not mean you should attack him based on your paucity of real-world knowledge. Sio hiyo namby pamby knowledge ya the endless lies they tell you in vitabus za uni fuaaaaaa.
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#112 Posted : Sunday, March 22, 2020 10:43:05 PM
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NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


Let him educate the members who care to learn. Modern Capitalism is what it is despite its manifest evils. It is the worst system, except all others.
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#113 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 6:20:42 AM
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sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


Let him educate the members who care to learn. Modern Capitalism is what it is despite its manifest evils. It is the worst system, except all others.


@sparkly.The West doesnt practise true capitalism.Its crony capitalism.In true capitalism businesses that engage in shenanigans and fraud should not be bailed out by the government and be allowed to fail.This provides a lesson those executives that engaged in excess and such bankruptcies clear the excesses in the system and allow more honest player to take over.This prevents a concept called 'moral hazard' where organizations engage in shenanigans to generate excess profits for themselves and when their malfeasance blows up,they rush to and sometimes force their government and central bank buddies to bail them out at taxpayers expense.The "too big to fail" moral hazard is endemic in the developed world and is responsible for the record bubble markets.

As an example just look at the housing bubble in the US in the early 2000s.The Fed provided cheap money to the banks by lowering rates to 1% after another Fed induced dot-com bubble burst.The Fed and Bush Administration pushed the banks to lend to uncreditworthy individuals sub-prime mortgage loans.These banks were fully aware these homeowners wouldnt be able to pay their mortgages especially when interest rates went up.All the Wall Street commercial banks engaged in these predatory lending standards.Dubious sub-prime loans called NINA loans ie No income,No job,No Assets loans dished out to people (with as the term NINA states) with no jobs and income.Any banker knows you dont offer credit facilities to individuals without an income and that a bank should adhere to rigorous credit standards yet these US banks (the banks what we assume are the gold standard of banking to emulate) pushed these bogus loans.Why did they do this?Its all about securitization.Once they dished out these loans they could create products like Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and derivative products called Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) and sold them to investors at exhorbitant prices thereby collecting an insane amount of fees.Anyone who has watched the movie 'The Big Short' knows what I am talking about.In the MBS and CDOs they bundled proper prime loans and sub-prime junk into one product to sell to investors and they bribed the rating agencies ie S&P.Moodys,Fitch to give these bundled instruments a Triple AAA rating while they were bogus.Once these banks sold off these MBS and CDOs these sub-prime mortgages were out of their balance sheet so didnt care if sub-prime mortgage borrowers failed to pay.Thus this created a bubble of epic proportions where even an unemployed guy could have sub-prime mortgages of even 3-5 houses 'banking' on the Equity release of the appreciating home prices assuming that the housing prices always go up.Fed then started raising rates in 2006 to prevent inflation,sub-prime borrowers started defaulting and the MBS and CDOs went into distress.Even when the banks realized that the MBS and CDOs were increasingly getting worthless,the banks with the rating agencies kept pushing the fradulent narrative that they were Triple AAA rated securities to dump them off their books to naive clients so that they dont eat the losses themselves.Moreover,these banks went and quietly took out an insurance policy instrument called Credit Default Swaps (CDS)-mostly with the world's largest insurer AIG-to bet against the MBS and CDOs failing while still pushing them to their clients as solid investments.The largest investment bank in the US ie Goldman Sachs was particularly nefarious in these CDS acquisitions for their failing MBS and CDOs.When the whole ponzi scheme started to unravel in 2008,investment banks Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch were bailed out by being sold by a Fed arranged bailout to JP Morgan and Bank of America respectively.Lehman failed because the CEO Dick Fuld,refused to sell his firm at a lower price to Barclays so was allowed to fail and Barclays scooped Lehman's assets at throwaway prices.AIG that provided the Credit Default Swaps instruments was bailed out also as they had to pay out the insurance compensation to the other Wall Street banks like JP Morgan (US largest commercial bank and Goldman Sachs plus other Wall Street banks otherwise all these banks would have collapsed also.I say they should have been allowed to collapse.It served them right to fail for engaging in such dubious predatory lending standards and fradulent securitization of these sub-prime mortgages but they were bailed out at taxpayers expense while the poor folks that took out these mortgages were thrown out of these houses with the homes foreclosed and auctioned.These homes were auctioned to private equity firms at throw away prices.Trillions of USD were created by the US and other developed world central banks to bail-out their banking buddies while the poor were left out.So it was as the mantra states banks privatize the profits and socialize the losses.As I said before,these trillions of QE bailouts werent freely given by the Fed.These are loans where the Fed creates the money out of nothing and lent to the government and government has to pay back with interest from taxation proceeds.As a result of the 2008 crisis,the US national debt during the Obama Administration doubled from 10 trillion to 20 trillion to facilitate these banksters bailouts.It had doubled from 5 to 10 trillion during the Bush era and US national debt stands at 23.5 trillion (106% of GDP) and if you count other debt obligations like unfunded liabilities of medicare,mediacaid and social security its over 150 trillion.The US is the greatest debtor nation in the history of the world.There is NO WAY all this debt can be repaid honestly.

Now that these criminal banks were bailed out,they have now engaged in the same shenanigans similar to the housing bubble but now in corporate debt markets.They dished out cheap loans to uncreditworthy firms and these sub-prime corporate loans are known as leveraged loans.Yet again just like in the housing bubbles they have securitized these bogus loans into corporate bonds and derivative products called Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs).The US shale oil industry has been particularly notorious in this scheme getting cheap loans from banks and issuing junk bonds.Using these proceeds from the bonds,firms go out to buy back their own stock to pump up their stock prices and give a false impression of robust companies and rising stock prices suck in retail investors to keep buying bubble stocks.The airline industries and Boeing have been particularly notorious in this stock buyback shenanigans as I explained in the Kenya Airways..why ignore thread. as below and now these firms want a bailout?

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These airlines are such punks and shouldnt be bailed out considering how they use their cash.The 3 major airlines ie American Airlines,Delta Airlines and United Airlines have been using 96% of their Free Cash Flow (FCF) to buying back their own stock.



This is how corporate America works.Company executives buy their own stock (for themselves not the company initially)when prices are cheaper.Then by borrowing in the corporate bond market or from revenues generated from company activities,they have their firms buyback their own stock.This massively pushes up the stock plus sucks in other investors to buy into rising stock prices.Then these executives,having bought these equities earlier now sell back their holdings into the market at much higher prices raking in a hefty profit for the executives not the company.Also by buying back their own stock,they reduce the overall float of stocks in the publicly traded market thus Earnings per Share increases since the denominator ie floated shares reduces creating a false impression that their EPS is high due to more effective business operations.70% of the US stock market rise in the last 11 years is due to this stock buyback scheme.

Now that the corporate bond market is in distress,these companies that borrowed to buy back their own stock are in trouble as the stocks are tanking massively so cannot pay back bond holders from proceeds of sales of their appreciating stock.Covid-19 just exacerbated the problem especially for airlines and now they need a bailout so that executives buy back their own stock and repeat the same shenanigans??Even Billionaire Mark Cuban is lamenting that this is ridiculous and that companies that get bailed out do not buy back their own stock



https://www.cnbc.com/202...-stocks-ever-again.html


Covid-19 is an unfortunate event but its not the main reason why the Western markets are faltering with such extremity.Its the record level over leveraged grotesque bubble markets built up by central bank liquidity that was the real danger and the virus is just the pin that popped this bubble.If they had practised proper sound capitalism,the effects of the virus wouldnt be as pronounced.Now the Fed is printing trillions daily to push the US debt load to catastrophic levels again to bailout fradulent firms that should be allowed to fail.Their collapse would be painful short term but long term beneficial to weed out these excesses and allow more honest organizations to spring up and take over.
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#114 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 7:12:57 AM
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slick wrote:
A good video on the new money printing liquidity injections the Fed rolled out this week to bailout the money market funds,commercial paper market,corporate bond market,municipal bond market,stock market,forex currency swap lines with foreign central banks like the European Central Bank and Bank of Japan and helicopter money for the populace.The trillions being printed by the Fed is staggering to the mind.

To give a sense of what a trillion means,1 trillion seconds is 31,709.8 years ago and the Fed is unleashing trillions daily


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyj-unafl4A



Meanwhile, the USD has emerged as the world's most important currency and is benefitting immensely from the covid-19 panic.

US Dollar Aims Higher as Markets Liquidate on Coronavirus: https://www.dailyfx.com/...ate-on-Coronavirus.html

US Dollar Rises Above the Rest: https://finance.yahoo.co...gold-not-142208266.html

This is despite all the Fed's evil money printing.


Methinks the Fed guys know what they are doing.... whatever they do may not be 100% in the best interest of an average American or even world citizen, but it works great for owners of capital like me and you and other members on this forum.
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#115 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 9:06:32 AM
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NewMoney wrote:
slick wrote:
A good video on the new money printing liquidity injections the Fed rolled out this week to bailout the money market funds,commercial paper market,corporate bond market,municipal bond market,stock market,forex currency swap lines with foreign central banks like the European Central Bank and Bank of Japan and helicopter money for the populace.The trillions being printed by the Fed is staggering to the mind.

To give a sense of what a trillion means,1 trillion seconds is 31,709.8 years ago and the Fed is unleashing trillions daily


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyj-unafl4A



Meanwhile, the USD has emerged as the world's most important currency and is benefitting immensely from the covid-19 panic.

US Dollar Aims Higher as Markets Liquidate on Coronavirus: https://www.dailyfx.com/...ate-on-Coronavirus.html

US Dollar Rises Above the Rest: https://finance.yahoo.co...gold-not-142208266.html

This is despite all the Fed's evil money printing.


Methinks the Fed guys know what they are doing.... whatever they do may not be 100% in the best interest of an average American or even world citizen, but it works great for owners of capital like me and you and other members on this forum.


There is this almost comical HBO documentary of the politics and intricacies of the 2008 crisis.Republicans(@slick Laughing out loudly )threw Bush under the bus,pelosi/Obama had other Ideas.

https://m.youtube.com/wa...utu.be&v=QozGSS7QY_U
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#116 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 9:08:29 AM
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This is CRAZY** $500b a day for 3 days is more QE than the last five years combined. WTF!!!


Na bado.Just warming up.You wait and see.Markets have already reversed almost all the gains after the Fed announcement.They want more $$$$$ but it wont help this time around like prior years since Covid-19 doesnt respect money printing.In fact if you combine liquidity injections of Fed,European Central Bank,Bank of Japan,Bank of England and Peoples Bank of China in the last 5 years its more like 5 trillion.



CNBC article below highlights




https://www.cnbc.com/202...raders-await-trump.html

"The major averages got a brief respite after the Fed announced it will ramp up its overnight funding operations to more than $500 billion on Thursday. It will then offer more repo operations totaling $1 trillion on Friday. The Fed also expanded the types of securities it would purchase with reserves.

However, stocks quickly traded back towards their session lows as investors awaited more aggressive measures to support the economy amid the virus outbreak."


So markets want more.1.5 trillion in 2 days isnt enough.Now its just getting ridiculous these mammoth liquidity injections that seem to have no effect.There are also whispers that the Fed should just outright buy stocks just like the Swiss Central Bank and Bank of Japan.Once you get to the level where central banks buy stocks,its a banana republic


We are living in a historically unprecedented moment.All that repo injection for today and markets close at the lows.S&P 500 down 9.51% in today's trading.No effect whatsoever.Even billionaire investor legends like Ray Dalio founder of the world's largest hedge fund Bridgewater Associates indicated the market is grossly overstretched and I quote him verbatim where he stated "cash is trash" and its pointless to hold onto US dollars if the Fed keeps printing new dollars and inevitably consumer inflation will result.



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As at end of last week, Ray Dalio's Alpha fund was down 20%. With yesterday's rout I can only imagine further drawdown and a flood of redemption requests. Keeping some dry powder at all times is a good hedge against such developments and affords an investor the opportunity to redeploy them if bargains show up.


Yeah.Ray Dalio under-estimated the magnitude of the coronavirus and his pure alpha fund has been whacked.But this fund also suffered losses last year.He has another all weather fund that is possibly performing better.

Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates, is a contrarian by nature.He understands the nature of central bank money printing driving up asset bubbles and has been warning for a number of years of the debt collapse thats currently unravelling.in his recent free book Principles For Navigating Big Debt Crises found in his site https://www.principles.com/big-debt-crises/ Dalio explains the various debt bubbles built up over many decades from the Fed fueled roaring 1920s stock market bubble to its collapse into the Great Depression,to the dotcom bubble burst,2008 housing burst among other bubbles and predicted the upcoming collapse and in 2018 which he felt it was 2 years away and he has been spot on.He also a large short seller having shorted the debt ridden poor performing European banks earlier than most people.He keeps a gold portfolio (at least 5-10%) in gold and has upped his gold position recently to be a hedge.I am sure Dalio will weather the current storm just fine and possibly come out even richer.

Yeah wise to keep some dry powder.Despite the ludicrous Fed money printing of trillions to pump up markets,USD remains the strongest currency trouncing even the other major currencies like the Euro,yen,pound,yuan that are carrying out even more money printing and currency debasement.Cash is king in this deflationary episode as it gives you the optionality to buy distressed assets.Thats what Warren Buffet is doing.He is keeping his largest cash hoard in history ie over 120 billion USD waiting for stocks to crater then buy them back cheaply.

His gold position will start hemorrhaging money if it isn't in the red already. Gold has not weathered the current down turn well now trading at $1485 from a high of $1702. Making it a dead/ineffective hedge at the moment. Negative correlation between USD and gold will crush it further to $1200-1300 levels. I had some trades on platinum and the moves yesterday were absolutely stunning. It tanked to a low of $566 from $714 earlier in the day and from $1040 a just a few weeks ago. The same goes for palladium which has now crashed 50% and still falling. USD rallying despite turning on the spigots and lowering rates to zero-bound has caught many investors in the crosshairs.


Billionaire Ray Dalio,founder of the world's largest hedge fund,Bridgewater Associates,speaks.He believes corporate losses in the US will be upto 4 trillion and global corporate losses to hit a whooping 12 trillion.Feels central bank money printing is impotent.Hear his interview on the link provided



Investor Ray Dalio estimates the corporate losses in the US from coronavirus will top $4 trillion

CBs should be looking to save face instead of displaying their impotence for the whole world to see. They've literally thrown the proverbial kitchen sink at the problem yet there is no reaction. Governments and CBs should be forward-looking as to what the stock market is signaling aka potential weak spots in the economy and how to mitigate them not these sort of reactionary moves. The Fed has clearly lost in the repo market yet it doubles down on liquidity spigots with nary an examination of the structural problems causing the spike demand.



The central banks (at least as constituted in the Western world) should be abolished.First,the Fed isnt a government agency and holds no real reserves.The Fed is owned by member banks ie the big 6 Wall Street Banks ie JP Morgan,Citigroup,Bank of America,Wells Fargo,Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley plus other shadowy entities not disclosed to the public.True shareholding of the Fed is a closely guarded secret.Do you think the trillions being printed for bailouts and to prop up overleveraged bubble stocks and bonds is being freely given by the Fed to the US government and corporations?Hell No.These are loans to the US serikali and corporates which they have to pay with interest.So the Fed creates fiat currency from nothing,lends it out and expects to be paid with interest??Wow its exactly like I type 1 trillion on my computer screen and give it to my someone and we both agree its money enforceable by law,he goes out and performs a labour and has to return that 1 trillion I conjured up by computer keystrokes plus interest.So where is the interest to come from if I only created 1 trillion in the first instance.He or another entity has to borrow more conjured up currency created by me to pay the interest and this newly borrowed money also has an interest payment attached to it so even more currency has to be borrowed from me and this perpetual cycle continues.So do commercial banks do the same.Almost everyone assumes that banks loan cash deposited by clients.Thats not entirely true.Banks create new money from nothing when you take out a loan and charge you interest.The amount of deposits only limits the amount of new loans a bank can create (what is known as reserve ratio)and if in a country a bank has a zero reserve ratio like the Fed lowered this ratio to zero last Sunday,then a bank can theoretically make infinite amount of loans and hold zero reserves for depositors.Kenya has a reserve ratio of 5.25% essentially meaning commercial banks increase the money supply by nearly twenty times.This whole concept is known as debt based fiat fractional reserve banking system.It may take sometime to fully appreciate it but when you do it will blow your mind away and have a true feel of the nefarious nature of current central and commercial banking.It would take me many hours and paragraphs to explain it so let me leave a few videos here that captures the gist of what I am saying








So the government pays the Fed with tax money levied on its citizens.Money the Fed created from nothing??Thats just nuts and fraud.Its this nature of central banking that the US founding fathers fought so viciously against and US abolished the first 2 central banks and the current fed formed in 1913 was created in such a sly,secretive manner.The book "The Creature from Jekyll Island" explains this but there are many videos on this plus on fractional reserve banking.

So the whole system sucks and stinks


I am well aware of the fractional nature of banking. Anyone who went through the GFC that was lesson 101. The problem for CBs and governments which they don't seem to grasp or are unwilling to tackle is that they are transferring the private sector payroll onto the governments tab. Last I checked most governments are levered to their eyeballs in debt. This money that they are dishing out in various forms will probably not get spent in the real economy and will be used to pad income statements and balance sheets. Unemployment should be the priority and how to alleviate it. Building excesses in the economy exacerbates the situation.
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#117 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 12:49:58 PM
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sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


Let him educate the members who care to learn. Modern Capitalism is what it is despite its manifest evils. It is the worst system, except all others.


@sparkly.The West doesnt practise true capitalism.Its crony capitalism.In true capitalism businesses that engage in shenanigans and fraud should not be bailed out by the government and be allowed to fail.This provides a lesson those executives that engaged in excess and such bankruptcies clear the excesses in the system and allow more honest player to take over.This prevents a concept called 'moral hazard' where organizations engage in shenanigans to generate excess profits for themselves and when their malfeasance blows up,they rush to and sometimes force their government and central bank buddies to bail them out at taxpayers expense.The "too big to fail" moral hazard is endemic in the developed world and is responsible for the record bubble markets.

As an example just look at the housing bubble in the US in the early 2000s.The Fed provided cheap money to the banks by lowering rates to 1% after another Fed induced dot-com bubble burst.The Fed and Bush Administration pushed the banks to lend to uncreditworthy individuals sub-prime mortgage loans.These banks were fully aware these homeowners wouldnt be able to pay their mortgages especially when interest rates went up.All the Wall Street commercial banks engaged in these predatory lending standards.Dubious sub-prime loans called NINA loans ie No income,No job,No Assets loans dished out to people (with as the term NINA states) with no jobs and income.Any banker knows you dont offer credit facilities to individuals without an income and that a bank should adhere to rigorous credit standards yet these US banks (the banks what we assume are the gold standard of banking to emulate) pushed these bogus loans.Why did they do this?Its all about securitization.Once they dished out these loans they could create products like Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and derivative products called Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) and sold them to investors at exhorbitant prices thereby collecting an insane amount of fees.Anyone who has watched the movie 'The Big Short' knows what I am talking about.In the MBS and CDOs they bundled proper prime loans and sub-prime junk into one product to sell to investors and they bribed the rating agencies ie S&P.Moodys,Fitch to give these bundled instruments a Triple AAA rating while they were bogus.Once these banks sold off these MBS and CDOs these sub-prime mortgages were out of their balance sheet so didnt care if sub-prime mortgage borrowers failed to pay.Thus this created a bubble of epic proportions where even an unemployed guy could have sub-prime mortgages of even 3-5 houses 'banking' on the Equity release of the appreciating home prices assuming that the housing prices always go up.Fed then started raising rates in 2006 to prevent inflation,sub-prime borrowers started defaulting and the MBS and CDOs went into distress.Even when the banks realized that the MBS and CDOs were increasingly getting worthless,the banks with the rating agencies kept pushing the fradulent narrative that they were Triple AAA rated securities to dump them off their books to naive clients so that they dont eat the losses themselves.Moreover,these banks went and quietly took out an insurance policy instrument called Credit Default Swaps (CDS)-mostly with the world's largest insurer AIG-to bet against the MBS and CDOs failing while still pushing them to their clients as solid investments.The largest investment bank in the US ie Goldman Sachs was particularly nefarious in these CDS acquisitions for their failing MBS and CDOs.When the whole ponzi scheme started to unravel in 2008,investment banks Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch were bailed out by being sold by a Fed arranged bailout to JP Morgan and Bank of America respectively.Lehman failed because the CEO Dick Fuld,refused to sell his firm at a lower price to Barclays so was allowed to fail and Barclays scooped Lehman's assets at throwaway prices.AIG that provided the Credit Default Swaps instruments was bailed out also as they had to pay out the insurance compensation to the other Wall Street banks like JP Morgan (US largest commercial bank and Goldman Sachs plus other Wall Street banks otherwise all these banks would have collapsed also.I say they should have been allowed to collapse.It served them right to fail for engaging in such dubious predatory lending standards and fradulent securitization of these sub-prime mortgages but they were bailed out at taxpayers expense while the poor folks that took out these mortgages were thrown out of these houses with the homes foreclosed and auctioned.These homes were auctioned to private equity firms at throw away prices.Trillions of USD were created by the US and other developed world central banks to bail-out their banking buddies while the poor were left out.So it was as the mantra states banks privatize the profits and socialize the losses.As I said before,these trillions of QE bailouts werent freely given by the Fed.These are loans where the Fed creates the money out of nothing and lent to the government and government has to pay back with interest from taxation proceeds.As a result of the 2008 crisis,the US national debt during the Obama Administration doubled from 10 trillion to 20 trillion to facilitate these banksters bailouts.It had doubled from 5 to 10 trillion during the Bush era and US national debt stands at 23.5 trillion (106% of GDP) and if you count other debt obligations like unfunded liabilities of medicare,mediacaid and social security its over 150 trillion.The US is the greatest debtor nation in the history of the world.There is NO WAY all this debt can be repaid honestly.

Now that these criminal banks were bailed out,they have now engaged in the same shenanigans similar to the housing bubble but now in corporate debt markets.They dished out cheap loans to uncreditworthy firms and these sub-prime corporate loans are known as leveraged loans.Yet again just like in the housing bubbles they have securitized these bogus loans into corporate bonds and derivative products called Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs).The US shale oil industry has been particularly notorious in this scheme getting cheap loans from banks and issuing junk bonds.Using these proceeds from the bonds,firms go out to buy back their own stock to pump up their stock prices and give a false impression of robust companies and rising stock prices suck in retail investors to keep buying bubble stocks.The airline industries and Boeing have been particularly notorious in this stock buyback shenanigans as I explained in the Kenya Airways..why ignore thread. as below and now these firms want a bailout?

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These airlines are such punks and shouldnt be bailed out considering how they use their cash.The 3 major airlines ie American Airlines,Delta Airlines and United Airlines have been using 96% of their Free Cash Flow (FCF) to buying back their own stock.



This is how corporate America works.Company executives buy their own stock (for themselves not the company initially)when prices are cheaper.Then by borrowing in the corporate bond market or from revenues generated from company activities,they have their firms buyback their own stock.This massively pushes up the stock plus sucks in other investors to buy into rising stock prices.Then these executives,having bought these equities earlier now sell back their holdings into the market at much higher prices raking in a hefty profit for the executives not the company.Also by buying back their own stock,they reduce the overall float of stocks in the publicly traded market thus Earnings per Share increases since the denominator ie floated shares reduces creating a false impression that their EPS is high due to more effective business operations.70% of the US stock market rise in the last 11 years is due to this stock buyback scheme.

Now that the corporate bond market is in distress,these companies that borrowed to buy back their own stock are in trouble as the stocks are tanking massively so cannot pay back bond holders from proceeds of sales of their appreciating stock.Covid-19 just exacerbated the problem especially for airlines and now they need a bailout so that executives buy back their own stock and repeat the same shenanigans??Even Billionaire Mark Cuban is lamenting that this is ridiculous and that companies that get bailed out do not buy back their own stock



https://www.cnbc.com/202...-stocks-ever-again.html


Covid-19 is an unfortunate event but its not the main reason why the Western markets are faltering with such extremity.Its the record level over leveraged grotesque bubble markets built up by central bank liquidity that was the real danger and the virus is just the pin that popped this bubble.If they had practised proper sound capitalism,the effects of the virus wouldnt be as pronounced.Now the Fed is printing trillions daily to push the US debt load to catastrophic levels again to bailout fradulent firms that should be allowed to fail.Their collapse would be painful short term but long term beneficial to weed out these excesses and allow more honest organizations to spring up and take over.


@Slick I didn't ask for a lecture but your points are well taken. We know cronism capitalism as you call it is bad but the reality is that everyone is happy when things are going well. Borrowers, Executives, Employees, Shareholders and Government all celebrate when the economies are booming. The party has to stop at some point and people will face the music. To you, crony capitalism is bad but what is your preferred system? Do you want us to go to real capitalism where Europeans colonized other continents, committed genocides and enslaved people just to take sugar in their tea and buy trinkets in London? Be careful not to come out as paranoid.
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#118 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 3:44:23 PM
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sparkly wrote:
slick wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
@slick, my advise for you cut down on the extremely long posts about the evil western financial systems. It's a bit extreme and a little bit too repetitive. The way you over-emphasize on it makes you sound like a nutty conspiracy theorist. I don't feel like it is adding value since it is turning into a monologue, not engaging members of the forum


Let him educate the members who care to learn. Modern Capitalism is what it is despite its manifest evils. It is the worst system, except all others.


@sparkly.The West doesnt practise true capitalism.Its crony capitalism.In true capitalism businesses that engage in shenanigans and fraud should not be bailed out by the government and be allowed to fail.This provides a lesson those executives that engaged in excess and such bankruptcies clear the excesses in the system and allow more honest player to take over.This prevents a concept called 'moral hazard' where organizations engage in shenanigans to generate excess profits for themselves and when their malfeasance blows up,they rush to and sometimes force their government and central bank buddies to bail them out at taxpayers expense.The "too big to fail" moral hazard is endemic in the developed world and is responsible for the record bubble markets.

As an example just look at the housing bubble in the US in the early 2000s.The Fed provided cheap money to the banks by lowering rates to 1% after another Fed induced dot-com bubble burst.The Fed and Bush Administration pushed the banks to lend to uncreditworthy individuals sub-prime mortgage loans.These banks were fully aware these homeowners wouldnt be able to pay their mortgages especially when interest rates went up.All the Wall Street commercial banks engaged in these predatory lending standards.Dubious sub-prime loans called NINA loans ie No income,No job,No Assets loans dished out to people (with as the term NINA states) with no jobs and income.Any banker knows you dont offer credit facilities to individuals without an income and that a bank should adhere to rigorous credit standards yet these US banks (the banks what we assume are the gold standard of banking to emulate) pushed these bogus loans.Why did they do this?Its all about securitization.Once they dished out these loans they could create products like Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) and derivative products called Collateralized Debt Obligations (CDOs) and sold them to investors at exhorbitant prices thereby collecting an insane amount of fees.Anyone who has watched the movie 'The Big Short' knows what I am talking about.In the MBS and CDOs they bundled proper prime loans and sub-prime junk into one product to sell to investors and they bribed the rating agencies ie S&P.Moodys,Fitch to give these bundled instruments a Triple AAA rating while they were bogus.Once these banks sold off these MBS and CDOs these sub-prime mortgages were out of their balance sheet so didnt care if sub-prime mortgage borrowers failed to pay.Thus this created a bubble of epic proportions where even an unemployed guy could have sub-prime mortgages of even 3-5 houses 'banking' on the Equity release of the appreciating home prices assuming that the housing prices always go up.Fed then started raising rates in 2006 to prevent inflation,sub-prime borrowers started defaulting and the MBS and CDOs went into distress.Even when the banks realized that the MBS and CDOs were increasingly getting worthless,the banks with the rating agencies kept pushing the fradulent narrative that they were Triple AAA rated securities to dump them off their books to naive clients so that they dont eat the losses themselves.Moreover,these banks went and quietly took out an insurance policy instrument called Credit Default Swaps (CDS)-mostly with the world's largest insurer AIG-to bet against the MBS and CDOs failing while still pushing them to their clients as solid investments.The largest investment bank in the US ie Goldman Sachs was particularly nefarious in these CDS acquisitions for their failing MBS and CDOs.When the whole ponzi scheme started to unravel in 2008,investment banks Bear Stearns and Merrill Lynch were bailed out by being sold by a Fed arranged bailout to JP Morgan and Bank of America respectively.Lehman failed because the CEO Dick Fuld,refused to sell his firm at a lower price to Barclays so was allowed to fail and Barclays scooped Lehman's assets at throwaway prices.AIG that provided the Credit Default Swaps instruments was bailed out also as they had to pay out the insurance compensation to the other Wall Street banks like JP Morgan (US largest commercial bank and Goldman Sachs plus other Wall Street banks otherwise all these banks would have collapsed also.I say they should have been allowed to collapse.It served them right to fail for engaging in such dubious predatory lending standards and fradulent securitization of these sub-prime mortgages but they were bailed out at taxpayers expense while the poor folks that took out these mortgages were thrown out of these houses with the homes foreclosed and auctioned.These homes were auctioned to private equity firms at throw away prices.Trillions of USD were created by the US and other developed world central banks to bail-out their banking buddies while the poor were left out.So it was as the mantra states banks privatize the profits and socialize the losses.As I said before,these trillions of QE bailouts werent freely given by the Fed.These are loans where the Fed creates the money out of nothing and lent to the government and government has to pay back with interest from taxation proceeds.As a result of the 2008 crisis,the US national debt during the Obama Administration doubled from 10 trillion to 20 trillion to facilitate these banksters bailouts.It had doubled from 5 to 10 trillion during the Bush era and US national debt stands at 23.5 trillion (106% of GDP) and if you count other debt obligations like unfunded liabilities of medicare,mediacaid and social security its over 150 trillion.The US is the greatest debtor nation in the history of the world.There is NO WAY all this debt can be repaid honestly.

Now that these criminal banks were bailed out,they have now engaged in the same shenanigans similar to the housing bubble but now in corporate debt markets.They dished out cheap loans to uncreditworthy firms and these sub-prime corporate loans are known as leveraged loans.Yet again just like in the housing bubbles they have securitized these bogus loans into corporate bonds and derivative products called Collateralized Loan Obligations (CLOs).The US shale oil industry has been particularly notorious in this scheme getting cheap loans from banks and issuing junk bonds.Using these proceeds from the bonds,firms go out to buy back their own stock to pump up their stock prices and give a false impression of robust companies and rising stock prices suck in retail investors to keep buying bubble stocks.The airline industries and Boeing have been particularly notorious in this stock buyback shenanigans as I explained in the Kenya Airways..why ignore thread. as below and now these firms want a bailout?

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These airlines are such punks and shouldnt be bailed out considering how they use their cash.The 3 major airlines ie American Airlines,Delta Airlines and United Airlines have been using 96% of their Free Cash Flow (FCF) to buying back their own stock.



This is how corporate America works.Company executives buy their own stock (for themselves not the company initially)when prices are cheaper.Then by borrowing in the corporate bond market or from revenues generated from company activities,they have their firms buyback their own stock.This massively pushes up the stock plus sucks in other investors to buy into rising stock prices.Then these executives,having bought these equities earlier now sell back their holdings into the market at much higher prices raking in a hefty profit for the executives not the company.Also by buying back their own stock,they reduce the overall float of stocks in the publicly traded market thus Earnings per Share increases since the denominator ie floated shares reduces creating a false impression that their EPS is high due to more effective business operations.70% of the US stock market rise in the last 11 years is due to this stock buyback scheme.

Now that the corporate bond market is in distress,these companies that borrowed to buy back their own stock are in trouble as the stocks are tanking massively so cannot pay back bond holders from proceeds of sales of their appreciating stock.Covid-19 just exacerbated the problem especially for airlines and now they need a bailout so that executives buy back their own stock and repeat the same shenanigans??Even Billionaire Mark Cuban is lamenting that this is ridiculous and that companies that get bailed out do not buy back their own stock



https://www.cnbc.com/202...-stocks-ever-again.html


Covid-19 is an unfortunate event but its not the main reason why the Western markets are faltering with such extremity.Its the record level over leveraged grotesque bubble markets built up by central bank liquidity that was the real danger and the virus is just the pin that popped this bubble.If they had practised proper sound capitalism,the effects of the virus wouldnt be as pronounced.Now the Fed is printing trillions daily to push the US debt load to catastrophic levels again to bailout fradulent firms that should be allowed to fail.Their collapse would be painful short term but long term beneficial to weed out these excesses and allow more honest organizations to spring up and take over.


@Slick I didn't ask for a lecture but your points are well taken. We know cronism capitalism as you call it is bad but the reality is that everyone is happy when things are going well. Borrowers, Executives, Employees, Shareholders and Government all celebrate when the economies are booming. The party has to stop at some point and people will face the music. To you, crony capitalism is bad but what is your preferred system? Do you want us to go to real capitalism where Europeans colonized other continents, committed genocides and enslaved people just to take sugar in their tea and buy trinkets in London? Be careful not to come out as paranoid.


@Sparkly I didnt mean it to be a lecture was just expressing the cronyism that's being branded as capitalism yet its not true capitalism.Haha of course I dont wish for colonization and genocide.What I subscribe to is the Austrian school of economics ie for man to have complete freedom to engage in whatever economic activity they desire provided it doesnt not harm others and with little or no government interference.Government legislation most times favours elites by creating rules that bar smaller competition from entering the market thus creating monopolies.An ideal dispensation is where organizations are let free to engage in their activities and if they engage in excess and fraud,they are allowed to fail with no bailouts.Problem with bailouts is that it fosters complacency,excess risk taking with entities knowing that if they fail,the government will give them a lifeline.Governments and central banks should not manipulate stock and bond markets by money printing as its the norm in the developed world.True price discovery of investment vehicles should be allowed to play its course.I prefer a system where there are no elites who form central banks that create fiat money from nothing and lend it out at interest and use government force to enforce that fiat currency as legal tender to the citizenry.A sound monetary system like a gold standard is ideal.Gold cannot be created out of thin air in excess amounts to serve the elite and it constrains governments to not spend more than they bring in as revenue.Why should central banks determine interest rates and money supply?Let the free market do so.Look at cryptos.Most are free market decentralized tokens spun organically with almost no government control and cannot be produced almost ad infinitum by any entity to serve its own interests.

Problem with the current Western dispensation is apart from excess regulation,bailing out of zombie corporations that should be allowed to fail so that more honest entities can take over is the overwhelming debt load thats built up when providing social welfare.There is nothing like a free lunch.Governments promise all these social programs like free education,free health care,unemployment benefits and such.Such ventures seem noble on the surface but inevitably governments build up excess debt levels (owed mostly to the central banks that are privately owned by member banks)that inevitably become unpayable and the society collapses under the debt overhang.Nations like Japan,China and even the US have among the highest debt to GDP ratios and eventually the debt chickens will come home to roost.I think most appreciate the folly of centralized planned economies in Communism and their inevitable downfall and even though the Western states dont practise overt communism,their societies exercise lots of central control.Governments should be as small as possible and interfere as little as possible in the economy.Taxation should be as minimal as possible such that it releases vast amount of capital to the free market to engage in even more productive activity.So how should the poor be taken care of?In a total free market,entrepreneurs,not burdened with excessive taxation and government regulation will have vast capital and see an opportunity to more create products to cater for the poor as they are a mass market and entrepreneurs can be profitable if they sell a smaller lower quality product at small profits per product but mass profits cumulatively selling to the vast population for the poor.

Anyway research on the Austrian school and the works of economists like Ludwig von Mises,Murray Rothbard,Henry Hazlitt
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#119 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 4:09:45 PM
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slick wrote:
@Sparkly I didn't mean it to be a lecture but was just expressing the cronyism that's being branded as capitalism yet its not true capitalism.

Haha, of course, I don't wish for colonization and genocide.

What I subscribe to is the Austrian school of economics, ie for man to have complete freedom to engage in whatever economic activity they desire provided it doesn't harm others and with little or no government interference.

Government legislation most times favours elites by creating rules that bar smaller competition from entering the market thus creating monopolies.

An ideal dispensation is where organizations are let free to engage in their activities and if they engage in excess and fraud, they are allowed to fail with no bailouts.

Problem with bailouts is that it fosters complacency, excess risk-taking with entities knowing that if they fail, the government will give them a lifeline.

Governments and central banks should not manipulate stock and bond markets by money printing as its the norm in the developed world.

True price discovery of investment vehicles should be allowed to play its course.

I prefer a system where there are no elites who form central banks that create fiat money from nothing and lend it out at interest and use government force to enforce that fiat currency as legal tender to the citizenry.

A sound monetary system like a gold standard is ideal.

Gold cannot be created out of thin air in excess amounts to serve the elite and it constrains governments to not spend more than they bring in as revenue.

Why should central banks determine interest rates and money supply?

Let the free market do so.

Look at cryptos. Most are free-market decentralized tokens spun organically with almost no government control and cannot be produced almost ad infinitum by any entity to serve its own interests.

Problem with the current Western dispensation is apart from excess regulation, bailing out of zombie corporations (kq?) that should be allowed to fail so that more honest entities can take over the overwhelming debt load that builds up when providing social welfare.

There is nothing like a free lunch.

Governments promise all these social programs like free education, free health care, unemployment benefits and such.

Such ventures seem noble on the surface but inevitably governments build up excess debt levels (owed mostly to the central banks that are privately owned by member banks)that inevitably become unpayable and the society collapses under the debt overhang.

Nations like Japan, China, and even the US have among the highest debt to GDP ratios and eventually, the debt chickens will come home to roost.

I think most appreciate the folly of centralized planned economies in Communism and their inevitable downfall and even though the Western states don't practice overt communism, their societies exercise lots of central control.

Governments should be as small as possible and interfere as little as possible in the economy.

Taxation should be as minimal as possible such that it releases a vast amount of capital to the free market to engage in even more productive activity.

So how should the poor be taken care of?

In a totally free market, entrepreneurs, not burdened with excessive taxation and government regulation will have vast capital and see an opportunity to produce more creative products to cater for the poor as they are a mass-market and entrepreneurs can be profitable if they sell a smaller lower quality product at small profits per product but mass profits cumulatively selling to the vast population for the poor.

Anyway research on the Austrian school and the works of economists like Ludwig von Mises, Murray Rothbard, Henry Hazlitt

slick
#120 Posted : Monday, March 23, 2020 7:58:40 PM
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slick wrote:
rwitre wrote:
slick wrote:
FED TO NOW BUY COMMERCIAL PAPER WHERE THE MARKET HAD FROZEN UP

slick wrote:
slick wrote:
US COMMERCIAL PAPER MARKET FREEZES UP!!smile smile

Two weeks ago the corporate bond market froze up.Treasuries had record bid/ask prices with the 30 year auction nearly failing last week needing a Fed intervention.Now the commercial paper market has frozen up needing a Fed bailout.



https://www.ft.com/conte...-11ea-a3c9-1fe6fedcca75

It just keeps getting worse.The Fed will just have to buy everything.Now US banks wont be engaging in share buybacks putting even more pressure on stocks


Wow everyday new twists and records.The Dow Jones Industrial Average and S&P 500 had their worst day since the “Black Monday” crash of 1987, falling 12.93% and 11.98%, respectively. Also all the 3 indices recorded their biggest point drops ever.The Nasdaq Composite had its biggest one-day percentage plunge ever, tumbling 12.32%.

All this carnage despite the Fed cutting rates by 1% to Fed funds rate being between 0-0.25% and launching 700 billion of QE and undertaking 500 billion of overnight repos and 45 billion of 2 week repos.Just getting too insane.

Now futures market are up with Dow futures up 700 points when Trump indicated a bailout is coming.Looks very tempting to short that dead cat bounce.So where will the bailout cash come from?Simple.The Fed will just print the money as always.




As widely expected,Fed has launched a commercial paper facility to buy this market that has been frozen under distress for the last few days.Intention is to buy at least 1 trillion of commercial paper





Should our CBK have bought Nakumatt's commercial paper also to save it from collapse and prevent the distress in Amana Capital also?


"Cash is trash." Ray Dalio

Even Warren Buffet's $128 billion cash pile is about to become worth less value than it was 2 weeks ago- but he has probably used a huge chunk to buy stock during the recent dip.


Fundamentally cash is trash considering the trillions of dollars the Fed is printing daily in even larger schemes to pump up markets but psychologically the US Dollar is king.Despite the trillions being pumped daily,the USD rose and has been remarkably stable.How is this possible?The US Dollar is the world's reserve currency backed by the US superpower status and petrodollar system.Most central bank reserves and most global trade is in USD and lots of debt especially in the emerging and frontier markets are USD denominated debt.This creates a massive constant massive demand for dollars.The current implosion of markets is creating a deflationary spiral making the USD even more sought after despite the trillions being printed.Foreign markets especially European banks are USD strapped thus Fed has setup currency swap lines with European Central Bank to reliquify the European banks with dollars.There is at least 11 trillion of USD denominated foreign debt where interest and principal payments have to still be made so there foreign nations are desperately seeking dollars to make their debt payments.Mainstream investors panicking put of asset classes like stocks are reverting to cash making the demand of dollars even stronger.Investors see no alternative to put their money in USD since the other major currencies facing even more dire straits.Would you park your money in the Euro,Yen when the Eurozone and Japan have negative central bank rates and negative yielding bonds?The British Pound is too small a market and the Chinese also printing money in droves and would you park your cash in a Communist dictatorship where the Yuan isnt a fully convertible currency?Thus in the short term the USD remains King but long term this money printing shenanigans will result in massive decline in the greenback.





NewMoney wrote:
slick wrote:
A good video on the new money printing liquidity injections the Fed rolled out this week to bailout the money market funds,commercial paper market,corporate bond market,municipal bond market,stock market,forex currency swap lines with foreign central banks like the European Central Bank and Bank of Japan and helicopter money for the populace.The trillions being printed by the Fed is staggering to the mind.

To give a sense of what a trillion means,1 trillion seconds is 31,709.8 years ago and the Fed is unleashing trillions daily


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyj-unafl4A



Meanwhile, the USD has emerged as the world's most important currency and is benefitting immensely from the covid-19 panic.

US Dollar Aims Higher as Markets Liquidate on Coronavirus: https://www.dailyfx.com/...ate-on-Coronavirus.html

US Dollar Rises Above the Rest: https://finance.yahoo.co...gold-not-142208266.html

This is despite all the Fed's evil money printing.


Methinks the Fed guys know what they are doing.... whatever they do may not be 100% in the best interest of an average American or even world citizen, but it works great for owners of capital like me and you and other members on this forum.


@NewMoney.Yes,I recognize the irony of the USD rising while they are printing trillions.I highlighted it in an earlier post and why its the case now highlighted in green above.In fact the same situation happened during the 2008 GFC.Apparently mainstream investors flock into USD as they liquidate falling investments and mainstream constitute the vast majority thus control the trends.Actually I am now in cash in USD to ride the mainstream trend or shorting the market and the USD rise has been good to me.Not sure how long the Fed can keep the game going.Eventually an inflection point will be reached where investors question the rationale of holding these dollars but I dont see that happening in the immediate future.For now King Dollar reigns despite the Fed's reckless money printing and the dollar index ie DXY may go much higher.When you are the reserve currency,you can pull this off.
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