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washiku
#51 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:56:35 AM
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limanika wrote:
Ion, naswa will not participate in vetting of new cabinet Reason? Coz that will amount to automatic endorsement of executive arm and water down their efforts to blackmail the govt which they hoped woukd result in nusu mkate at the worst. They would only vet cabinet if its nusu mkate cabinet


Only that they had also promised not to participate in parliament because it was illegal. Well we all know they didn'tLiar Liar
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limanika
#52 Posted : Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:01:06 PM
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washiku wrote:
limanika wrote:
Ion, naswa will not participate in vetting of new cabinet Reason? Coz that will amount to automatic endorsement of executive arm and water down their efforts to blackmail the govt which they hoped woukd result in nusu mkate at the worst. They would only vet cabinet if its nusu mkate cabinet


Only that they had also promised not to participate in parliament because it was illegal. Well we all know they didn'tLiar Liar

Let's see how this one plays out...the one who issued the statement (madvd), and the other principals are indirectly very interested in nusu mkate type cabinet positions...hence the instruction...however the Mps may decide to ignore the principals and go ahead with the vetting ..coz of, just imagine, the sitting allowances
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aemathenge
#53 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 12:51:46 PM
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Location: Kerugoya
An interesting perspective and food for thought from Jaindi Kisero

Copy and Paste Extracts.

Quote:
Yada, yada, yada.

Mr Kenyatta should appoint a powerful change champion with a mandate co-ordinate and champion radical changes across the Civil Service bureaucracy.

Yada, yada, yada.

Cabinet Secretaries (are different).

Their mindset is of individuals who are more at ease when making PowerPoint presentations in conferences and seminars in five-star hotels than addressing public barazas.

Today, it is very possible for a Cabinet secretary to sneak into a public gathering without being noticed.

They don’t enjoy widespread name recognition across the country.

They approach their work as personal service to the appointing authority to be reciprocated by personal loyalty, obedience, and respect to their godfathers.

Yada, yada, yada.

The Principal Secretary (is a different animal).

He is (a?) political appointee parachuted into public service to occupy a critical role without knowledge of the inner workings of the Civil Service bureaucracy.

Worse, we appointed too many of them at one go, leading to a situation where we have ministries with multiple principal secretaries.

We ended up with too many office holders who were yet to imbibe what business schools call espirit de corps.

The environment spawned bureaucratic lethargy in the Civil Service.

Coda:

I think the President should revisit Dr Richard Leakey’s “Dream Team” experiment.

(Because) Leakey’s Dream Team members did not have a business as usual attitude.


Source Link From the Business Daily
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2012
#54 Posted : Friday, December 01, 2017 4:55:51 PM
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This was the first term/time Kenya had technocrats or non politician CSs. They have failed. The ones who have done well are the ones who have inclined more towards politics and politicians eg Matiangi, Balala, Wamalwa... The rest have failed to make a mark, they could be brilliant and doing a great job but in Kenya without makelele you do not exist and worse still if you cannot convert your appointment to the cabinet into votes for the president from your backyard. CSs are equivalent to Governors in our minds, so let's appoint politicians while their assistants or Principal Secretaries remain to be the technocrats. Tusijidanganye.

BBI will solve it :)
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kaka2za
#55 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:00:00 PM
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Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
latest list going around:
1.Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government-Cabinet Secretary M.G.Rtd. Karangi
2. Ministry of Devolution and Planning Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri
3. Ministry of Finance & National Treasury Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Henry Rotich
4. Ministry of Defence Cabinet Secretary: David Musila
5. Ministry of Foreign Affairs & InternationalTrade Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Amb. Amina Mohammed
6. Ministry of Education Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Dr Fred Okengo Matiangi
7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha
8. Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Ababu Namwamba
9. Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eng. James Rege
10. Ministry of Environment, and Natural Resource Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Joyce Lay
11. Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Moses Akaranga
12. Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Raychel Omamo
13. Ministry of Labour & Human Resources cabinet secretary: Hon .Peter Sirai
14.Ministry of Energy Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Charles Keter
15.Ministry of Oil and petroleum : Hon . Ekwe Ethuro
16. Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Zedekiah Bundotich
17.Ministry of Industrialization and Enterprise Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. David Ole Nkedienye.
18. Ministry of Public Service, Youth & Gender Affairs Cabinet Secretary:Hon.Cecily Kariuki
19. Ministry of Tourism Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Najib Balala
20. Ministry of Mining Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Gideon Mung'aro
21.Ministry of Water & Irrigation Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eugene Wamalwa.
22 Minstry of East Africa Affairs & Local trade , Cabinet secretary Hon. Nick Salat.

State house controller-PETER MUNYA.(ok...stop laughing now)

Attorney General Hon. Githu Mugai
Chief of Protocol : HON. Kinuthia Mbugua
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Iganamagana
#56 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:14:51 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
latest list going around:
1.Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government-Cabinet Secretary M.G.Rtd. Karangi
2. Ministry of Devolution and Planning Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri
3. Ministry of Finance & National Treasury Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Henry Rotich
4. Ministry of Defence Cabinet Secretary: David Musila
5. Ministry of Foreign Affairs & InternationalTrade Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Amb. Amina Mohammed
6. Ministry of Education Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Dr Fred Okengo Matiangi
7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha
8. Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Ababu Namwamba
9. Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eng. James Rege
10. Ministry of Environment, and Natural Resource Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Joyce Lay
11. Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Moses Akaranga
12. Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Raychel Omamo
13. Ministry of Labour & Human Resources cabinet secretary: Hon .Peter Sirai
14.Ministry of Energy Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Charles Keter
15.Ministry of Oil and petroleum : Hon . Ekwe Ethuro
16. Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Zedekiah Bundotich
17.Ministry of Industrialization and Enterprise Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. David Ole Nkedienye.
18. Ministry of Public Service, Youth & Gender Affairs Cabinet Secretary:Hon.Cecily Kariuki
19. Ministry of Tourism Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Najib Balala
20. Ministry of Mining Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Gideon Mung'aro
21.Ministry of Water & Irrigation Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eugene Wamalwa.
22 Minstry of East Africa Affairs & Local trade , Cabinet secretary Hon. Nick Salat.

State house controller-PETER MUNYA.(ok...stop laughing now)

Attorney General Hon. Githu Mugai
Chief of Protocol : HON. Kinuthia Mbugua


Hizi list mnatoanga wapi? Where is Tuju? Does Musila have the stamina for defence (though he will not be in the battle field)? Ababu should handle something else but not infrastructure! May be sports, culture women and youth affairs.
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washiku
#57 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:00:18 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
latest list going around:
1.Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government-Cabinet Secretary M.G.Rtd. Karangi
2. Ministry of Devolution and Planning Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri
3. Ministry of Finance & National Treasury Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Henry Rotich
4. Ministry of Defence Cabinet Secretary: David Musila
5. Ministry of Foreign Affairs & InternationalTrade Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Amb. Amina Mohammed
6. Ministry of Education Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Dr Fred Okengo Matiangi
7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha
8. Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Ababu Namwamba
9. Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eng. James Rege
10. Ministry of Environment, and Natural Resource Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Joyce Lay
11. Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Moses Akaranga
12. Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Raychel Omamo
13. Ministry of Labour & Human Resources cabinet secretary: Hon .Peter Sirai
14.Ministry of Energy Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Charles Keter
15.Ministry of Oil and petroleum : Hon . Ekwe Ethuro
16. Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Zedekiah Bundotich
17.Ministry of Industrialization and Enterprise Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. David Ole Nkedienye.
18. Ministry of Public Service, Youth & Gender Affairs Cabinet Secretary:Hon.Cecily Kariuki
19. Ministry of Tourism Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Najib Balala
20. Ministry of Mining Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Gideon Mung'aro
21.Ministry of Water & Irrigation Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eugene Wamalwa.
22 Minstry of East Africa Affairs & Local trade , Cabinet secretary Hon. Nick Salat.

State house controller-PETER MUNYA.(ok...stop laughing now)

Attorney General Hon. Githu Mugai
Chief of Protocol : HON. Kinuthia Mbugua


7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha

If only this came to be...Health needs a serious guy
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Gathige
#58 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:52:55 PM
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Joined: 3/29/2011
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washiku wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
latest list going around:
1.Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government-Cabinet Secretary M.G.Rtd. Karangi
2. Ministry of Devolution and Planning Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri
3. Ministry of Finance & National Treasury Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Henry Rotich
4. Ministry of Defence Cabinet Secretary: David Musila
5. Ministry of Foreign Affairs & InternationalTrade Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Amb. Amina Mohammed
6. Ministry of Education Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Dr Fred Okengo Matiangi
7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha
8. Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Ababu Namwamba
9. Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eng. James Rege
10. Ministry of Environment, and Natural Resource Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Joyce Lay
11. Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Moses Akaranga
12. Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Raychel Omamo
13. Ministry of Labour & Human Resources cabinet secretary: Hon .Peter Sirai
14.Ministry of Energy Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Charles Keter
15.Ministry of Oil and petroleum : Hon . Ekwe Ethuro
16. Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Zedekiah Bundotich
17.Ministry of Industrialization and Enterprise Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. David Ole Nkedienye.
18. Ministry of Public Service, Youth & Gender Affairs Cabinet Secretary:Hon.Cecily Kariuki
19. Ministry of Tourism Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Najib Balala
20. Ministry of Mining Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Gideon Mung'aro
21.Ministry of Water & Irrigation Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eugene Wamalwa.
22 Minstry of East Africa Affairs & Local trade , Cabinet secretary Hon. Nick Salat.

State house controller-PETER MUNYA.(ok...stop laughing now)

Attorney General Hon. Githu Mugai
Chief of Protocol : HON. Kinuthia Mbugua


7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha

If only this came to be...Health needs a serious guy



Number 17 is a non starter. Unlesss they want to turn Kenya into a grazing land. Hi sunshine PHD is in natural resources, and Industrialization is the antithesis of Natural resources management.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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FRM2011
#59 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 3:39:14 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
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washiku wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
latest list going around:
1.Ministry of Interior and Coordination of National Government-Cabinet Secretary M.G.Rtd. Karangi
2. Ministry of Devolution and Planning Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Mwangi Kiunjuri
3. Ministry of Finance & National Treasury Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Henry Rotich
4. Ministry of Defence Cabinet Secretary: David Musila
5. Ministry of Foreign Affairs & InternationalTrade Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Amb. Amina Mohammed
6. Ministry of Education Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Dr Fred Okengo Matiangi
7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha
8. Ministry of Transport and Infrastructure Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Ababu Namwamba
9. Ministry of Information, Communication and Technology Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eng. James Rege
10. Ministry of Environment, and Natural Resource Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Joyce Lay
11. Ministry of Land, Housing and Urban Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Moses Akaranga
12. Ministry of Sports, Culture and the Arts Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Raychel Omamo
13. Ministry of Labour & Human Resources cabinet secretary: Hon .Peter Sirai
14.Ministry of Energy Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Charles Keter
15.Ministry of Oil and petroleum : Hon . Ekwe Ethuro
16. Ministry of Agriculture, Livestock and Fisheries Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Zedekiah Bundotich
17.Ministry of Industrialization and Enterprise Development Cabinet Secretary: Hon. David Ole Nkedienye.
18. Ministry of Public Service, Youth & Gender Affairs Cabinet Secretary:Hon.Cecily Kariuki
19. Ministry of Tourism Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Najib Balala
20. Ministry of Mining Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Gideon Mung'aro
21.Ministry of Water & Irrigation Cabinet Secretary: Hon. Eugene Wamalwa.
22 Minstry of East Africa Affairs & Local trade , Cabinet secretary Hon. Nick Salat.

State house controller-PETER MUNYA.(ok...stop laughing now)

Attorney General Hon. Githu Mugai
Chief of Protocol : HON. Kinuthia Mbugua


7. Ministry of Health Cabinet Secretary: Prof. George Magoha

If only this came to be...Health needs a serious guy


I agree with you @washiku. Magoha can take on the health sector cartels.

But this list is one big joke. You reward Busia and Vihiga county and ignore Bungoma ? No one from Meru, Muranga, Kirinyaga and Nyandarua counties. Mungaro ?? Kilifi is the most orange county in Kenya after Siaya. Nkedienye ? What value does he bring ? Joyce Lay ?

We should expect a cabinet that reflects WSR's 2022 gameplan. I would not be shocked if Kaleo ministers are sacrificed for say Meru and Bungoma.
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simonkabz
#60 Posted : Thursday, December 07, 2017 3:39:38 PM
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Posts: 8,776
Location: Cameroon
So you guys think James Wainaina Macharia can be dropped???????
TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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