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Gathige
#51 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:04:39 AM
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hardwood wrote:



MO1 was a political genius.
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Fyatu
#52 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:06:14 AM
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Location: Nakuru
safariant wrote:
safariant wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
57 days to go. That supreme court ruling was the worst thing to happen to baba. Coz the forthcoming defeat will silence him forever. He should have retired with the dignity of 6m votes. But as they say tamaa na ojinga iliua fisi. Time to cut off the snakes head in round 2.



Beyond the numbers it will be our duty to ensure that the form 34A and 34B are the proper ones with all the required features ,are correctly filled and sent to Bomas in the prescribed way.This calls for getting out Agents in good time and training them on those issues.That in my understanding is where the issues lie.Unless the servers have a different story in terms of numbers which so far nobody even NASWA has talked about.

It must be kichapo cha T9




Anyone with a list of the fake form 34A's & 34B's?
Which areas?

Anyone with this info?


They are all from NASA strongholds. Apparently when the results started streaming in and it was evident that Nyanza super alliance was loosing, Jimmy Orengo called his agents and instructed them not to sign. Returning officers in the so called strongholds also participated in making the whole process technically UN-constitutional. I hold the view that if Jubilee did not steal this elections then RAO is cooked
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Shak
#53 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:09:44 AM
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Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
Fyatu wrote:
safariant wrote:
safariant wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
57 days to go. That supreme court ruling was the worst thing to happen to baba. Coz the forthcoming defeat will silence him forever. He should have retired with the dignity of 6m votes. But as they say tamaa na ojinga iliua fisi. Time to cut off the snakes head in round 2.



Beyond the numbers it will be our duty to ensure that the form 34A and 34B are the proper ones with all the required features ,are correctly filled and sent to Bomas in the prescribed way.This calls for getting out Agents in good time and training them on those issues.That in my understanding is where the issues lie.Unless the servers have a different story in terms of numbers which so far nobody even NASWA has talked about.

It must be kichapo cha T9




Anyone with a list of the fake form 34A's & 34B's?
Which areas?

Anyone with this info?


They are all from NASA strongholds. Apparently when the results started streaming in and it was evident that Nyanza super alliance was loosing, Jimmy Orengo called his agents and instructed them not to sign. Returning officers in the so called strongholds also participated in making the whole process technically UN-constitutional. I hold the view that if Jubilee did not steal this elections then RAO is cooked

Isn't he likely to do this again if he sees himself loosing? Jubilee need to do some serious strategising. This is nothing short of sabotage. Chebukati should also be very strict and ensure that he scrutinizes all the forms from the polling stations and if any are defective they should be cancelled
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Fyatu
#54 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:24:08 AM
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Joined: 1/20/2011
Posts: 1,822
Location: Nakuru
Shak wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
safariant wrote:
safariant wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
57 days to go. That supreme court ruling was the worst thing to happen to baba. Coz the forthcoming defeat will silence him forever. He should have retired with the dignity of 6m votes. But as they say tamaa na ojinga iliua fisi. Time to cut off the snakes head in round 2.



Beyond the numbers it will be our duty to ensure that the form 34A and 34B are the proper ones with all the required features ,are correctly filled and sent to Bomas in the prescribed way.This calls for getting out Agents in good time and training them on those issues.That in my understanding is where the issues lie.Unless the servers have a different story in terms of numbers which so far nobody even NASWA has talked about.

It must be kichapo cha T9




Anyone with a list of the fake form 34A's & 34B's?
Which areas?

Anyone with this info?


They are all from NASA strongholds. Apparently when the results started streaming in and it was evident that Nyanza super alliance was loosing, Jimmy Orengo called his agents and instructed them not to sign. Returning officers in the so called strongholds also participated in making the whole process technically UN-constitutional. I hold the view that if Jubilee did not steal this elections then RAO is cooked

Isn't he likely to do this again if he sees himself loosing? Jubilee need to do some serious strategising. This is nothing short of sabotage. Chebukati should also be very strict and ensure that he scrutinizes all the forms from the polling stations and if any are defective they should be cancelled


This time it will be very difficult to do that
Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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2012
#55 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 11:31:58 AM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Julie wrote:
Country would be in chaos for sure....


Not possible. The only people who will be willing to fight for baba are the lakeside people only. I cannot see how Lunjes and Kaos can take to the streets for baba. There's also no way baba can win the elections with his current alliance. Since he can never join up with the kyuks then his best option would be the Kales. The last time he joined up with the Kales, he won. This time the tyranny is not in his favor and the best he can hope for is a nusu mkate government.

But to be honest, I wish baba could be president for a term so his people can see that it's nothing special and their expectations will not be met. The kyuks vote in people to maintain status quo not for development, they also reject people who would change that. If baba really wanted to improve the lives of his people, he could have done it when he was a minister, his father VP or when he was a PM.
The best he can do is groom someone from his region who can cut across. Similarly, the Lunjes should look for someone who's not from the KANU error like Sakaja. I think the politics of the future for Kenya will be entrusting the presidency to people who are not perceived as threatening and that's why people seem to prefer Uhuru to Ruto. Ruto is taken with a pinch of salt in all communities including his.

BBI will solve it :)
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Fullykenyan
#56 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:17:49 PM
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Joined: 7/27/2014
Posts: 560
Location: Eastlando
2012 wrote:
Julie wrote:
Country would be in chaos for sure....


Not possible. The only people who will be willing to fight for baba are the lakeside people only. I cannot see how Lunjes and Kaos can take to the streets for baba. There's also no way baba can win the elections with his current alliance. Since he can never join up with the kyuks then his best option would be the Kales. The last time he joined up with the Kales, he won. This time the tyranny is not in his favor and the best he can hope for is a nusu mkate government.

But to be honest, I wish baba could be president for a term so his people can see that it's nothing special and their expectations will not be met. The kyuks vote in people to maintain status quo not for development, they also reject people who would change that. If baba really wanted to improve the lives of his people, he could have done it when he was a minister, his father VP or when he was a PM.
The best he can do is groom someone from his region who can cut across. Similarly, the Lunjes should look for someone who's not from the KANU error like Sakaja. I think the politics of the future for Kenya will be entrusting the presidency to people who are not perceived as threatening and that's why people seem to prefer Uhuru to Ruto. Ruto is taken with a pinch of salt in all communities including his.


Sakaja has to first prove himself politically.In the last parliament he was nominated and to get to parliament this tim around he rode on sonko´s wave in nairobi.Let us first see if he can stand by himself and win something
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2012
#57 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 1:29:17 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
Fullykenyan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Julie wrote:
Country would be in chaos for sure....


Not possible. The only people who will be willing to fight for baba are the lakeside people only. I cannot see how Lunjes and Kaos can take to the streets for baba. There's also no way baba can win the elections with his current alliance. Since he can never join up with the kyuks then his best option would be the Kales. The last time he joined up with the Kales, he won. This time the tyranny is not in his favor and the best he can hope for is a nusu mkate government.

But to be honest, I wish baba could be president for a term so his people can see that it's nothing special and their expectations will not be met. The kyuks vote in people to maintain status quo not for development, they also reject people who would change that. If baba really wanted to improve the lives of his people, he could have done it when he was a minister, his father VP or when he was a PM.
The best he can do is groom someone from his region who can cut across. Similarly, the Lunjes should look for someone who's not from the KANU error like Sakaja. I think the politics of the future for Kenya will be entrusting the presidency to people who are not perceived as threatening and that's why people seem to prefer Uhuru to Ruto. Ruto is taken with a pinch of salt in all communities including his.


Sakaja has to first prove himself politically.In the last parliament he was nominated and to get to parliament this tim around he rode on sonko´s wave in nairobi.Let us first see if he can stand by himself and win something


Prove himself to whom? How did Uhuru, Mdvd or any other politician prove themselves? Do you mean get the backing of their tribe?

BBI will solve it :)
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safariant
#58 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:05:46 PM
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Joined: 9/9/2010
Posts: 784
Location: ant hill - red hill
2012 wrote:
Fullykenyan wrote:
2012 wrote:
Julie wrote:
Country would be in chaos for sure....


Not possible. The only people who will be willing to fight for baba are the lakeside people only. I cannot see how Lunjes and Kaos can take to the streets for baba. There's also no way baba can win the elections with his current alliance. Since he can never join up with the kyuks then his best option would be the Kales. The last time he joined up with the Kales, he won. This time the tyranny is not in his favor and the best he can hope for is a nusu mkate government.

But to be honest, I wish baba could be president for a term so his people can see that it's nothing special and their expectations will not be met. The kyuks vote in people to maintain status quo not for development, they also reject people who would change that. If baba really wanted to improve the lives of his people, he could have done it when he was a minister, his father VP or when he was a PM.
The best he can do is groom someone from his region who can cut across. Similarly, the Lunjes should look for someone who's not from the KANU error like Sakaja. I think the politics of the future for Kenya will be entrusting the presidency to people who are not perceived as threatening and that's why people seem to prefer Uhuru to Ruto. Ruto is taken with a pinch of salt in all communities including his.


Sakaja has to first prove himself politically.In the last parliament he was nominated and to get to parliament this tim around he rode on sonko´s wave in nairobi.Let us first see if he can stand by himself and win something


Prove himself to whom? How did Uhuru, Mdvd or any other politician prove themselves? Do you mean get the backing of their tribe?

For starters he doesn't have a big surname to carry him
The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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safariant
#59 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:13:23 PM
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Joined: 9/9/2010
Posts: 784
Location: ant hill - red hill
Fyatu wrote:
Shak wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
safariant wrote:
safariant wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
hardwood wrote:
57 days to go. That supreme court ruling was the worst thing to happen to baba. Coz the forthcoming defeat will silence him forever. He should have retired with the dignity of 6m votes. But as they say tamaa na ojinga iliua fisi. Time to cut off the snakes head in round 2.



Beyond the numbers it will be our duty to ensure that the form 34A and 34B are the proper ones with all the required features ,are correctly filled and sent to Bomas in the prescribed way.This calls for getting out Agents in good time and training them on those issues.That in my understanding is where the issues lie.Unless the servers have a different story in terms of numbers which so far nobody even NASWA has talked about.

It must be kichapo cha T9




Anyone with a list of the fake form 34A's & 34B's?
Which areas?

Anyone with this info?


They are all from NASA strongholds. Apparently when the results started streaming in and it was evident that Nyanza super alliance was loosing, Jimmy Orengo called his agents and instructed them not to sign. Returning officers in the so called strongholds also participated in making the whole process technically UN-constitutional. I hold the view that if Jubilee did not steal this elections then RAO is cooked

Isn't he likely to do this again if he sees himself loosing? Jubilee need to do some serious strategising. This is nothing short of sabotage. Chebukati should also be very strict and ensure that he scrutinizes all the forms from the polling stations and if any are defective they should be cancelled


This time it will be very difficult to do that

Which side is Chebukati?
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masukuma
#60 Posted : Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:22:19 PM
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Joined: 10/4/2006
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Location: Nairobi
The narrative that Njumbirii "stole" the election and that is why "kinarudiwo" is rather false and may end up stinging NASA ! Kinarudiwo coz of the incompetence of IEBC! If you delude yourself that this was reset because of fraud on Jubilee's side - you have not learnt the lesson and a make-up lesson is coming.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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