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ngapat wrote:Who remembers this post 2 months ago? It was bound to happen. This could go on until 2018!
The looming constitutional crisis
Prof. MUTAHI NGUNYI
This election is a slippery one because of a playful and incompetently drafted constitution. For instance, the date of the election is cast in stone. If the ballot papers are not ready by August 8, the election cannot be held on any other date.
And this is probably what Nasa leader Raila Odinga wants. If the courts cancel the tender for the printing of ballot papers, there will be no election. A hard constitutional fact! The only way out is a caretaker government.
If Raila uses the courts to sabotage the printing of ballots, therefore, it is because he wants a caretaker government. Period! But this is not the only worrying scenario in this election.
In case of death of a presidential candidate or his running mate between now and August 8, the election stands cancelled and a fresh one called in two months.
For instance, if a presidential candidate commits suicide on August 7, the election will be cancelled and a fresh one called for October 7. And since we have one suicidal presidential candidate, this scenario is probable.
My worry, though, is not the presidential candidates. It is the running mates. And I am not talking about William Ruto or Kalonzo Musyoka. These are safe! My worry is the others whose names we cannot remember.
If any of them dies on August 7, the election is cancelled. Another hard constitutional fact! For instance, if Dida’s runningmate in 2013 was beaten by a dog outside his Kibera shack and died, the election would have been cancelled.
It is that simple. This is why the government should give tight security to the independent presidential candidates and runningmates. As for my political science student at University of Nairobi in the 1990s, Solomon Gichira, we must stop him from attempting suicide again.
After the courts allowed him to run for president, he is now a national security threat. In fact, Interior Cabinet secretary Joseph Nkaissery should secure him with a battalion of military men, not policemen! And on this point, I am not being funny.
Now I will ask the country a few questions. After you vote on August 8, when do you expect to go back to work? On August 9 or there about? Zero! This election has potential to spill over to mid-2018.
And this is a hard constitutional fact. In fact, after August 8, we have no idea what the country will look like. Consider the following: One, on August 8, Uhuru Kenyatta becomes the temporary president.
This is a new concept in the Constitution. A temporary president is half a president. He cannot fire anyone, even if they sabotage his government from within. But fundamentally, he cannot deploy the military to quell the kind of violence we had in 2007.
This can only be done with the approval of Parliament, which will have been dissolved on August 8. If we have violence on August 10, for instance, the military cannot intervene.
Why this is worrying is because in 2007, the violence stopped when the military swung into action. We do not have this luxury. And the question is: Who benefits from such paralysis? The answer is obvious: Raila. He will use this paralysis to force a coalition government if he loses. More so, if there is violence like in 2007!
And the second reason why we are headed for a prolonged and tense post-election period is that every stage of this election will be contested in courts of law.
The first round will be contested, and if we have a run-off, its results will also be challenged in court. And these contests do not have to be done by the candidates. I am sure activists will file multiple petitions, even for nuisance value. If this is true, then, the earliest we can swear in the new president will be Tuesday September 12.
And this is the best case scenario in which one of the candidates gets 50 per cent plus one and the Supreme Court rules that the election was valid. This is the scenario that obtained in 2013.
In my view, Raila will do everything possible to ensure this does not happen. In fact, he has worked for the last four years to ensure this does not happen.
If he will not get a caretaker government or a forced coalition becomes impossible, a run-off is his best bet. But what does a run-off look like? If we have a run-off, the earliest the new president will be sworn in is November 14.
For 100 days, we will be in a state of political suspense with Uhuru as temporary president, with no powers. In the meantime, the economy will begin to react to the suspense and political tension. And even then, tension for 100 days is not a disaster. This is actually a Christmas picnic. More so because we could face worse circumstances than this.
Let me explain. Should we have a run-off, it will happen on October 5. And this is because a petition contesting the first round of election will delay the run-off. The results of the run-off will be announced on October 12.
And this will definitely attract a petition by October 19. If this happens, the Supreme Court will make its ruling on November 2. The ruling will have two possibilities. One, that the run-off was valid; or it was invalid.
If declared invalid, then a fresh election will be held 60 days after November 2. And this takes us to January 2. In sum, January 2 will become the new August 8. All the dramas we have experienced in this election will start afresh on January 2.
What is more, they could run all the way to June next year. And this is a hard constitutional fact! What is my point here? There is a concept in law known as cui bono which states that “If you get to a crime scene, you must start by asking ‘…who benefits from this crime?’”. Once you identify the primary beneficiary, you will identify the killer.
And we must use this principle to analyse our constitutional confusion. We must ask the question: Who benefits from it? Once we identify the beneficiary, we will identify the engineer of the coming confusion.
And the beneficiary is Raila! Put differently, the options for Raila are two. One, to force a caretaker or coalition governments. But this will require violence, which Raila would want to avoid.
The second option is to force a constitutional coup. In this option, he will force a protracted petition in which the Supreme Court has no choice but to nullify either the first round of election or a run-off! To achieve this result from the Supreme Court, what Raila needs to do is to mis-engineer the election in selected areas.
This way, he will collect compelling evidence that will force the Supreme Court to nullify the first round of the election or the run-off. And with this, the 100 days of election suspense will turn to six months.
The six months will turn to one year. The economy will respond. And without violence, a coalition government will happen to stop this constitutional madness! In my view, this is a typical Raila plan. But I could also be wrong! MN is always on point!
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The presidential election held on 8th August 2017 was not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law rendering the declared result invalid, null and void.
This is how 4 judges determined. They painted this with the broadest brush possible. 4 judges are telling all of Kenya; you did not do this properly, go do it again.
15 million Kenyans went to vote on the 8th of August and no one complained until the results were announced. Why not a recount? What were the laws broken on election day by the 15 million voters?
I would bet that even the NASA supporters were hoping that the court could declare that Raila had won, they were not supporting a petition to ask them to vote again.
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Dissenting judge Ojwang just told us that the majority decision was based mostly on 'uncertainties' and that they ignored 'substantial evidence' that contradicted their opinion. That right there is explosive indictment of the 4 judges “Invest in yourself. Your career is the engine of your wealth.”
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ngapat wrote:Dissenting judge Ojwang just told us that the majority decision was based mostly on 'uncertainties' and that they ignored 'substantial evidence' that contradicted their opinion. That right there is explosive indictment of the 4 judges If outcome of the fresh election turns out with almost similar percentages, he will be vindicated... The other four, will not
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Kusadikika wrote:The presidential election held on 8th August 2017 was not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law rendering the declared result invalid, null and void.
This is how 4 judges determined. They painted this with the broadest brush possible. 4 judges are telling all of Kenya; you did not do this properly, go do it again.
15 million Kenyans went to vote on the 8th of August and no one complained until the results were announced. Why not a recount? What were the laws broken on election day by the 15 million voters?
I would bet that even the NASA supporters were hoping that the court could declare that Raila had won, they were not supporting a petition to ask them to vote again.
Nobody expected Raila to be declared Winner. We just wanted justice, that the system was flawed based on procedures & processes. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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we wait for the detailed ruling, but if the irregularities and illegalities can easily be replicated then we are in big trouble since there is a risk of a never ending cycle.
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 489
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Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?
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SEPTEMBER 1, 2017 NASA STATEMENT ON SUPREME COURT RULING A VICTORY FOR KENYA: Two weeks ago, we moved to the Supreme Court to challenge the declaration of Mr. Uhuru Kenyatta as the winner of the August 8 presidential elections. We moved to the Supreme Court to lay before the world what we believed was compelling evidence of the making of a computer-generated leadership. Now the Supreme Court of Kenya has spoken. This decision is precedent setting. It will reverberate across Kenya, the African continent and the rest of the world through the generations. Never again will impunity reign in Kenya. It is now clear that no one in Kenya is above the law. A new Kenya has been born. And Kenya is once again leading Africa, as it so often does with its vibrant democracy (except at election time) and enterprise. Chief Justice David Maraga will always be remembered for setting this exceptional example for all of Africa. Our judiciary now knows that they have the power, in law and with courage, to challenge the mighty powers too many African presidents wield against the will of their people. We thank the Supreme Court for standing up for the truth and in the process lifting the image and profile of our nation with regard to the rule of law and judicial autonomy. We also honor the two judges who dissented. We honor them for their courage in standing up for their opinion, which we respect. They have made our justice system stronger and steadied our march towards electoral democracy. We salute our able legal team. We particularly pay tribute to the young boys and girls who spent countless hours poring over documents and who in the end established the IEBC fraud. We remain grateful to all those who supported the cause for which we have fought. With this courageous verdict we put on trial the international observers who moved fast to sanitize fraud. Their role must be re-examined, as it is highly politicized and currently puts status quo and "stability" ahead of credible elections. It is credible elections alone which will give us peace and stability. Of course it wasn’t always like this. The US strongly supported Kenyans’ push for multiparty politics although it backtracked and quickly congratulated Mwai Kibaki on his “victory” in 2007. But thanks to the EU observers at that time, and some superlative reporting by international media, it quickly shifted course and then US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and British Cabinet Minister Lord Mark Malloch Brown travelled to Nairobi to promote the Kofi Annan led negotiation process. The US, UK EU then strongly supported the passage of the rights-oriented new Constitution. But after Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto election, our partners settled for the status quo. The court's proceedings in this case revealed the utter rot at the heart of our electoral commission and electoral process; it was blatant and third time in a row. But it revealed the rot at the heart of the Kenya state as well. There is total impunity. Extra judicial killings continue. Corruption has reached stratospheric proportions. And there is little room for concern with the lot of the poor for whom life gets harder year after year. What has transpired today is but the first step in ensuring electoral justice in Kenya. There are more fundamental decisions to be made in the days ahead; including who conducts the next elections. It is now clear that the entire edifice of IEBC is rotten. Clear evidence shows that the Commission was taken over by criminals who ran the General Elections using the technology system and resulted in a computer generated leadership for the people. It is now also clear that the CEO Ezra Chiloba, Directors Immaculate Kassait, Commissioner in charge of ICT Prof. Abdi Yakub Guliye, head of Legal affairs Praxidis Tororey, Ms Betty Nyabuto of Operations and John Muhati of IT were co- conspirators with in these criminal schemes. They must face criminal prosecution. We urge these IEBC officials who have perpetrated a monumental crime against the people to do the right thin g and resign. It remains clear to us that the real election results were never shared with the people of Kenya despite years of preparations for this election and billions spent on it. Somebody must take responsibility. We will continue demanding that the servers that the IEBC refused to open despite court orders be opened. The truth is a critical component of justice. Kenyans must know the truth of what transpired in this election and that truth is contained in the servers that IEBC is hanging on to. The ruling today shows that when there is justice, peace prevails. Our country still needs a cure for electoral impunity. As we said about a week ago, the Supreme Court ruling, even as we welcome it, will not bring to justice those who plotted and executed the theft of votes. It will not bring to justice those who murdered Chris Musando in order to steal votes. It will not hold to account those who sought to cow us into submission by unleashing terror in Mathare, Kibera and Kisumu. Stealing of elections in Kenya is a manifestation of the culture of political impunity, an impunity that the IEBC willingly and gladly participated in. The perpetrators of 2017 electoral theft were emboldened by the fact that those who stole the 2013 elections have gone unpunished. As we said earlier, we saw some of them at the Bomas of Kenya; experts in electoral fraud supervising their second electoral fraud which has now been brought to naught. A cure has to be found. As a country, we urgently need to discuss how we will conduct the upcoming elections. As IEBC itself has said, many changes must be made in the Commission before we hold another election. But this cannot be an assignment to be carried out by the Commission. Political parties and stakeholders must come together and agree on these changes. We call upon parliament to adopt a bipartisan spirit in order to expedite reforms that may be required. It is our hope that this development can help us find common ground going forward. God Bless Kenya
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gk wrote:Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing? Is it a coincidence that the court followed 2 orders from NASA? 1. Each judge must present their ruling separately 2. We don't want 1 line ruling Remember Justice Mwilu saying 'you want a detailed ruling' or something of that sort?
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Before reading the full ruling, it may be premature to cast aspersions on this judgement. Either way, nothing will change. For now, focus should be how to win.
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Other than the usual sycophants on wazua who are hemorrhaging Raila threads today, the ruling was obvious to all and sundry. Even Njoki Ndungu, God help her, had a problem explaining her ruling. "the irregularities were not..." say that again. There was a time on this forum where I asked people if they really want Maraga in the Supreme court. I was told off by all and sundry. You just don't understand conservatives. They follow the law and procedure and don't deviate. IEBC messed up big time. And I mean big time. This case ended when in their written affidavit, the IEBC said that those numbers that we saw on Citizen were "statistics". What the hell are statistics? But of course for the muthamaki kingdom, they won. By 1.4 million. So the court was just asking. How can we confirm that? How do we prove that even 1 vote went to Raila or one to Uhuru. The IEBC couldn't even say what happened to the voting material if I decided to vote only 1 candidate. They did not know. You know, you have to be a very stupid person to believe that this election was conducted with the seriousness it deserves. There are winners here and I shall name them 1. Ngapat and co..They now have a job for another 60 days to write nonsense on the internet 2. Ahmednassir. He hasn't been paid yet, so he's going to tweet nonsense until he get's his paycheck 3. The media - They can continue selling their useless analysts. This case was lost before it even started. Process matters not numbers. In case you don't believe it or want to start another thread please understand something. Today as you walk around Kenya understand that the law in Kenya says, the process in which you were born is more important than the number of triplets you have. For Muthamaki kingdom, you now sound like Raila complaining 24 hours a day. Ati Maraga is Raila's cousin in law. Ati tribes ati what... You say you won with 1.4 million votes. Go vote you shall win again. But you have been warned by Maraga. The next time a Returning Officer chases agents from a polling station, the next time a CS goes out campaigning, the next time IEBC can't even send legit forms to its own headquarters, you shall be back to square one. Kenyans won. Those that care about doing the right thing at all times won. Now let me vacate, to let the usual sycophants talk to themselves on wazua. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Alma we will win this mpende msipende "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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murchr wrote:Alma we will win this mpende msipende Murchr don't be a dummy like the rest of them. The court did not say Uhuru lost. It did not say Raila won. In fact, it did not care who won or lost. That was the problem with the Jubilee lawyers. How you even pay those fellows is a thesis on its own. Nasa's case was all about process, process, process. Jubilee lawyers were so busy reading Nasa tweets they forgot to read the petition itself. The petition said nothing about numbers. Nothing about hacking. Nothing...Yet, the dumb Jubilee lawyers were talking about observers, numbers etc. Yaani, answering questions they were not asked. Stupid! It would have been mute if only IEBC lawyers could explain how Uhuru's certificate numbers read different from Chebukati's form 34C. I mean some of these things are childish and pedestrian mistakes. No court on this earth would have allowed it. Don't hate Raila. In fact, go to IEBC and find out if those people are even qualified to do their jobs. Terrible, terrible terrible. I mean some of the times when I would here their lawyers say the word statistics, I would squirm like a malnourished lizard. IEBC had no idea where their own papers were. Had no idea their own PO's had signed or not signed. In fact, right now I know they don't know the exact number of people who voted. That was the case. Not who won. If they don't get that in their heads. We shall repeat this electing 20 times until they get it right. If I were Uhuru. Instead of getting high on TV, I would sue IEBC for losing the election for him. Not attacking the same court that made him president 5 years ago. Tantrums won't help anyone. I know they sound cool in Uthamaki kingdom. But for the rest of us, we want the right process to be followed. PERIOD!!! That is the law in Kenya. Mpende, Msipende. Ama mhame muende Somalia. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.
The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed to have happened had NASA lost.
The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.
It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters.
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hamburglar wrote:This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.
The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed had NASA lost.
The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.
It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters. Hambuglar very soon. In not more than 5 years. There shall be a case in the supreme court about your right to go around saying there's no God. Trust me. On that day, you shall be here just like the Jubilee fellas hating on Maraga. Trust me. It is coming. Don't take this case as lightly as my lecturer Lumumba was doing with big words that meant nothing. Only people who did not go to school were amazed by Lumumbas presentation. In fact, I promise you, that this ruling shall have an impact on every aspect of how you live in Kenya and Africa in general. Wait for their written judgements. You shall go slow on your Lumumbaism. If Maraga says the law must be interpreted as it reads, it will mean that you and your aetheism shall be illegal. The law is an ass. I called out Maraga here and even Jubilee people on this forum said I was being too harsh. The reason Sabina Joy is popular is because Kenyans love quickies. They only see what is infront of them. Right now, they only see that Uhuru lost or Raila won. Or vice versa. Ona mbele. We have now one of the most conservative courts in the world. They interpret the law as it is written. Then you go vote for that funny woman from Kiambu who can't read. Mnashida nyingi na hamuelewi. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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