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Alba
#101 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 4:55:16 PM
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Obbo should go easy on EqG and CAF. They had to scramble and host this tournament at short notice after Morocco pulled out. CAF is very corrupt. But what happened at this tournament you cannot fully blame them.
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#102 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:16:10 PM
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Reuters Africa names the best Africa nations XI

http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFL4N0VJ62420150209

Goalkeeper: Felipe Ovono (Equatorial Guinea).
Right Back: Serge Aurier (Ivory Coast).
Left back: Baba Rahman (Ghana).
Central defence: John Boye (Ghana)
Central defence: Aymen Abdennour (Tunisia).
Defensive midfielder: Chancel Mbemba (DR Congo).
Attacking midfielder: Yaya Toure (Ivory Coast).
Left wing: Gervinho (Ivory Coast).
Right midfield: Dede Ayew (Ghana).
Central striker: Thievy Bifouma (Congo)
Central striker: Wilfried Bony (Ivory Coast)
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#103 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:36:02 PM
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I did not watch most of this AFCON 2015. But I have watched African football for the longest. My all time African XI would look like this:


1. Bruce Grobelaar
2. Lauren Etame
3. Nourredine Naybet
4. Sammy Kuffour
5. Lucas Radebe
6. Michael Essien
7. Abedi Pele
8. Yaya Toure
9. Roger Milla
10. Lakhdar Belloumi
11. George Weah

Subs
1. Thomas Nkono
2. JJ Okocha
3. Mohamed Timoumi
4. Didier Drogba
5. Muda Lawal
6. Emmanuel Kunde
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#104 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:40:34 PM
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Alba wrote:
Reuters Africa names the best Africa nations XI

http://af.reuters.com/ar...s/idAFL4N0VJ62420150209

Goalkeeper: Felipe Ovono (Equatorial Guinea).
Right Back: Serge Aurier (Ivory Coast).
Left back: Baba Rahman (Ghana).
Central defence: John Boye (Ghana)
Central defence: Aymen Abdennour (Tunisia).
Defensive midfielder: Chancel Mbemba (DR Congo).
Attacking midfielder: Yaya Toure (Ivory Coast).
Left wing: Gervinho (Ivory Coast).
Right midfield: Dede Ayew (Ghana).
Central striker: Thievy Bifouma (Congo)
Central striker: Wilfried Bony (Ivory Coast)


Didn't I hear that Atsu was the player of the tournament? Why is his name not on this list?
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#105 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 7:46:54 PM
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Alba wrote:
I did not watch most of this AFCON 2015. But I have watched African football for the longest. My all time African XI would look like this:


1. Bruce Grobelaar
2. Lauren Etame
3. Nourredine Naybet
4. Sammy Kuffour
5. Lucas Radebe
6. Michael Essien
7. Abedi Pele
8. Yaya Toure
9. Roger Milla
10. Lakhdar Belloumi
11. George Weah

Subs
1. Thomas Nkono
2. JJ Okocha
3. Mohamed Timoumi
4. Didier Drogba
5. Muda Lawal





I largely agree with you except for two:-
King George....though he was one of the best in Europe, he was a flop in cup of Nations, replace him with JJ.
Replace Grobelaar with Nkono...... Though a star at Liverpool, did Grobelaar ever play in AFCON?
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#106 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:24:30 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Alba wrote:
I did not watch most of this AFCON 2015. But I have watched African football for the longest. My all time African XI would look like this:


1. Bruce Grobelaar
2. Lauren Etame
3. Nourredine Naybet
4. Sammy Kuffour
5. Lucas Radebe
6. Michael Essien
7. Abedi Pele
8. Yaya Toure
9. Roger Milla
10. Lakhdar Belloumi
11. George Weah

Subs
1. Thomas Nkono
2. JJ Okocha
3. Mohamed Timoumi
4. Didier Drogba
5. Muda Lawal





I largely agree with you except for two:-
King George....though he was one of the best in Europe, he was a flop in cup of Nations, replace him with JJ.


George was good but from a weak team

One man wont go far with a poor team
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#107 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:33:33 PM
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Don't confuse King George of AFCON and King George who was a star in Champions League in Europe .... The one who graced AFCON was a total flop, a complete shadow of the guy who was a star elsewhere. Unless of course you want to take his contribution in Europe ( where he used to terrorize defenders) into account, for me he remains a flop in AFCON.
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Alba
#108 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:42:24 PM
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@Mwenza

My all time XI is an all time African XI not necessarily an AFCON XI.
Weah is the greatest African striker ever. There was a time he came to play against Harambee stars and Austin marked him out of the game. One of the best performances by a Kenyan defender.
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mwenza
#109 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 8:56:31 PM
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Alba wrote:
@Mwenza

My all time XI is an all time African XI not necessarily an AFCON XI.
Weah is the greatest African striker ever. There was a time he came to play against Harambee stars and Austin marked him out of the game. One of the best performances by a Kenyan defender.


In that case am tempted to agree with the list..... However, shouldn't there be some place for Etoo on the bench?
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#110 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:27:38 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Alba wrote:
@Mwenza

My all time XI is an all time African XI not necessarily an AFCON XI.
Weah is the greatest African striker ever. There was a time he came to play against Harambee stars and Austin marked him out of the game. One of the best performances by a Kenyan defender.


In that case am tempted to agree with the list..... However, shouldn't there be some place for Etoo on the bench?



I thought about Etoo. But if there is room for only striker on the bench. It was a tossup between Drogba and Etoo. I think Drogba has accomplished more than Etoo
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#111 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 9:27:55 PM
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mwenza wrote:
Alba wrote:
@Mwenza

My all time XI is an all time African XI not necessarily an AFCON XI.
Weah is the greatest African striker ever. There was a time he came to play against Harambee stars and Austin marked him out of the game. One of the best performances by a Kenyan defender.


In that case am tempted to agree with the list..... However, shouldn't there be some place for Etoo on the bench?

Surprised there's no Aboutrika Mohamed.
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#112 Posted : Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:57:54 PM
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Alba wrote:
mwenza wrote:
Alba wrote:
@Mwenza

My all time XI is an all time African XI not necessarily an AFCON XI.
Weah is the greatest African striker ever. There was a time he came to play against Harambee stars and Austin marked him out of the game. One of the best performances by a Kenyan defender.


In that case am tempted to agree with the list..... However, shouldn't there be some place for Etoo on the bench?



I thought about Etoo. But if there is room for only striker on the bench. It was a tossup between Drogba and Etoo. I think Drogba has accomplished more than Etoo


I consider Etoo more accomplished!!!
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#113 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 4:53:39 PM
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Etoo vs Drogba is a tossup

As for Aboutrika he is good but I think there have been better plamakers even in Egypt like Tarek Abu Zeid, Mohammed Timoumi of Morocco etc

In lieu of a subsititues bench: 2nd Africa XI of all time

1. Thomas Nkono
2. Emmanuel Eboue
3. Celestine Babayaro
4. Stephen Keshi
5. Emmanuel Kunde
6. Seydou Keita
7. JJ Okocha
8. Mustapha Hadji
9. Didier Drogba
10. Theophile Abega
11. Samuel Etoo
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#114 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 4:55:19 PM
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In real terms, the greatest striker Africa has ever produced is not George Weah but Eusebio who came from Mozambique
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#115 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 4:57:59 PM
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Alba wrote:
In real terms, the greatest striker Africa has ever produced is not George Weah but Eusebio who came from Mozambique


Most online rankings have Etoo as the best of all time and a few have Weah!!!
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#116 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 4:58:27 PM
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Alba wrote:
In real terms, the greatest striker Africa has ever produced is not George Weah but Eusebio who came from Mozambique

huyo hakuwa mreno ?
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#117 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 6:21:52 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Alba wrote:
In real terms, the greatest striker Africa has ever produced is not George Weah but Eusebio who came from Mozambique


Most online rankings have Etoo as the best of all time and a few have Weah!!!


Online rankings aside, Eusebio was at one time the best striker in the world bar none. So good that at one point people started to say he was better than Pele. Etoo may not even be good enough to clean his shoes. Eusebio accomplished stuff that few strikers across the world have:

1. Top scorer in the 1966 world cup ( 9 goals) and was the main reason Portugal finished 3rd.
2. All time leading scorer for Benfica (638 goals)
3. 11 league titles
4. European cup top scorer 3 times
5. European golden boot twice

I would like to see which online ranking would put Etoo ahead of Eusebio.
Anyone who saw Weah play for AC Milan and PSG will laugh at the idea that Etoo is better


@Nakujua
Eusebio was born in Mozambique to a Mozambican father. At the time, Mozambique was a colony of Portugal so he and three other Mozambicans of that era played for Portugal
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#118 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 7:59:10 PM
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@Alba, Eusebio is not ranked as African!
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#119 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 10:27:59 PM
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Alba wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Alba wrote:
In real terms, the greatest striker Africa has ever produced is not George Weah but Eusebio who came from Mozambique


Most online rankings have Etoo as the best of all time and a few have Weah!!!


Online rankings aside, Eusebio was at one time the best striker in the world bar none. So good that at one point people started to say he was better than Pele. Etoo may not even be good enough to clean his shoes. Eusebio accomplished stuff that few strikers across the world have:

1. Top scorer in the 1966 world cup ( 9 goals) and was the main reason Portugal finished 3rd.
2. All time leading scorer for Benfica (638 goals)
3. 11 league titles
4. European cup top scorer 3 times
5. European golden boot twice

I would like to see which online ranking would put Etoo ahead of Eusebio.
Anyone who saw Weah play for AC Milan and PSG will laugh at the idea that Etoo is better


@Nakujua
Eusebio was born in Mozambique to a Mozambican father. At the time, Mozambique was a colony of Portugal so he and three other Mozambicans of that era played for Portugal

have not dug up the details, but I would think statistics weigh more in favour of etoo compared to weah
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#120 Posted : Thursday, February 12, 2015 11:32:15 PM
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@Nakujua. I dont know what the stats look like. But stats only tell half the story.

If you ever saw George Weah play you will just laugh at the comparison with Etoo. There was a time when Weah was considered the best striker in Europe. And I mean the best striker in all European leagues. Thats when he was voted European player of the year. I dont think any other African has this honor. Am I mistaken?

In fact I am not sure Etoo is the best Camerounian striker ever. Roger Milla is. Mpaka even Pepe Kalle sung a song about him. Milla played in the French league in the 1970s and early 1980s during a time when it was almost impossible for an African to break into Europe. And he was AFCON top scorer quite a few times. Etoo may even have better stats than Milla but let me tell you Milla could play.

This was when Cameroun was really good. Not this joke of a team that we see these days. This was the era of players like Abega, Onguene, Kunde, Nkono, Bell et al. There are full length videos of their exploits online. Endeni muone historia.
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