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This government does not need to be condemned by anyone. Its doing a good job of that by itself
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:tycho wrote:ecstacy wrote:All in all, can we please have a better organized and coherent political opposition in Kenya. It remains noisy, moribund and ultimately ineffective in the current political dispensation. I don't think Kenya needs an opposition, those who want to maintain opposition politics are those who want to keep the masses in chains. Agreeing together and acting together is the way. Politics should be about fostering agreement. Joining. @Tycho, is this a typing error? No. It's not. If there's to be any opposition then it has to be the market. There's no market in Kenya. Then there's no politics; only pseudopolitics. What is politics? Your understanding of the same is what is required not dictionary definition. Politics is the joint creation of knowledge, power and resources for the mutual satisfaction of needs. Thanks. Analyzing your definition, do you think there is knowledge in Kenyan pseudo-politics? Sorry I can not call it politics. As for needs, whose are we talking about here? Definitely not the populace's. Knowledge can only be identified by its fruit, power. There's power across the land. But how evenly it's distributed across the population and its effect of the people is the measure. If its not optimized to the good of the people then it's pseudo politics.
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Rank: User Joined: 9/6/2013 Posts: 1,446 Location: In a house
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tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:tycho wrote:ecstacy wrote:All in all, can we please have a better organized and coherent political opposition in Kenya. It remains noisy, moribund and ultimately ineffective in the current political dispensation. I don't think Kenya needs an opposition, those who want to maintain opposition politics are those who want to keep the masses in chains. Agreeing together and acting together is the way. Politics should be about fostering agreement. Joining. @Tycho, is this a typing error? No. It's not. If there's to be any opposition then it has to be the market. There's no market in Kenya. Then there's no politics; only pseudopolitics. What is politics? Your understanding of the same is what is required not dictionary definition. Politics is the joint creation of knowledge, power and resources for the mutual satisfaction of needs. Thanks. Analyzing your definition, do you think there is knowledge in Kenyan pseudo-politics? Sorry I can not call it politics. As for needs, whose are we talking about here? Definitely not the populace's. Knowledge can only be identified by its fruit, power. There's power across the land. But how evenly it's distributed across the population and its effect of the people is the measure. If its not optimized to the good of the people then it's pseudo politics. So ours is pseudo-politics. Are you also engaging in the same?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/7/2007 Posts: 838
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Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based  In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:tycho wrote:ecstacy wrote:All in all, can we please have a better organized and coherent political opposition in Kenya. It remains noisy, moribund and ultimately ineffective in the current political dispensation. I don't think Kenya needs an opposition, those who want to maintain opposition politics are those who want to keep the masses in chains. Agreeing together and acting together is the way. Politics should be about fostering agreement. Joining. @Tycho, is this a typing error? No. It's not. If there's to be any opposition then it has to be the market. There's no market in Kenya. Then there's no politics; only pseudopolitics. What is politics? Your understanding of the same is what is required not dictionary definition. Politics is the joint creation of knowledge, power and resources for the mutual satisfaction of needs. Thanks. Analyzing your definition, do you think there is knowledge in Kenyan pseudo-politics? Sorry I can not call it politics. As for needs, whose are we talking about here? Definitely not the populace's. Knowledge can only be identified by its fruit, power. There's power across the land. But how evenly it's distributed across the population and its effect of the people is the measure. If its not optimized to the good of the people then it's pseudo politics. So ours is pseudo-politics. Are you also engaging in the same? Now and then, when around the masked, I cling to my mask. And I indulge in pseudopolitics. But thinking of this post has made me more political.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/7/2007 Posts: 838
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urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:urstill1 wrote:tycho wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:tycho wrote:ecstacy wrote:All in all, can we please have a better organized and coherent political opposition in Kenya. It remains noisy, moribund and ultimately ineffective in the current political dispensation. I don't think Kenya needs an opposition, those who want to maintain opposition politics are those who want to keep the masses in chains. Agreeing together and acting together is the way. Politics should be about fostering agreement. Joining. @Tycho, is this a typing error? No. It's not. If there's to be any opposition then it has to be the market. There's no market in Kenya. Then there's no politics; only pseudopolitics. What is politics? Your understanding of the same is what is required not dictionary definition. Politics is the joint creation of knowledge, power and resources for the mutual satisfaction of needs. Thanks. Analyzing your definition, do you think there is knowledge in Kenyan pseudo-politics? Sorry I can not call it politics. As for needs, whose are we talking about here? Definitely not the populace's. Knowledge can only be identified by its fruit, power. There's power across the land. But how evenly it's distributed across the population and its effect of the people is the measure. If its not optimized to the good of the people then it's pseudo politics. So ours is pseudo-politics. Are you also engaging in the same? There is no opposition in Kenya. We have people who do press conferences to oppose government policy, complain about voting patterns in parliament in political rallies over the weekend and walk out of parliament to hold a press conference in protest to a bill they don't like instead of staying and voting against the said bill. WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 402
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marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. Do you have any objective way of making this conclusion?
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/7/2007 Posts: 838
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Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. Do you have any objective way of making this conclusion? The Obama administration has been spying on Heads of State of allies, the UN, running illegal operations in other countries without their knowledge. Do you think this makes the US the darling of the rest of the world? Have you noticed how he is trying to entice back African countries who have en mass moved to the East? My friend, Africa was always pro-America and if you cannot keep Africa on your side, who can you keep? WHO DARES WINS
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 402
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marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:marko wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:ecstacy wrote:simonkabz wrote:The post is basically hollow, as far as I'm concerned. Too negative n senseless. How have the US forces become suddenly useful, n KDF useless? What did he mean by that?
So he purports UK is doing nothing while BO is busy? Is it even fair to compare Kenya with a hegemony/superpower?
Mere whinning. Yerp. How do you even compare the two? It is not rosy in Kenya but it is a tard hypocritical to be super impressed by the usual speeches from what is turning out to be the worst performing President in US history and very terribly saddened by an administration (he most likely didn't vote for) less than one year on the job and events in a country that is taking significant human rights and economic development steps in the continent. Maybe all this whining is all njaanuary based In 2012, Newsweek magazine asked a panel of historians to rank the ten best presidents since 1900. The results showed that historians had ranked 1.Franklin D. Roosevelt 2. Theodore Roosevelt, 3.Lyndon Johnson, 4.Woodrow Wilson, 5.Harry Truman, 6.John F. Kennedy, 7.Dwight Eisenhower, 8.Bill Clinton, 9.Ronald Reagan and 10. Barack Obama as the best since that year.[20] I hate when some people speak out of ignorance, this ecstacY is an empty shirt and should be condemned by all of us. Obama is one of the worst American presidents, SMH!!!! When Obama became president he had a chance to at least undo the damage that Bush had done. What did he do? He made the situation worse. The US is more alienated to the rest of the world now than during the Bush era. But the historians were looking at American presidents. I am not surprised he made it on the list. Do you have any objective way of making this conclusion? The Obama administration has been spying on Heads of State of allies, the UN, running illegal operations in other countries without their knowledge. Do you think this makes the US the darling of the rest of the world? Have you noticed how he is trying to entice back African countries who have en mass moved to the East? My friend, Africa was always pro-America and if you cannot keep Africa on your side, who can you keep? The spying issue was just hot air. It was not an Obama idea first of all. All powerful countries do it. In fact most countries envy the capacity Americans have to spy. Consider this: 1. It keeps the Americans and world safe. 2. The Americans can get advance information when negotiating trade deals.
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