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Rea Vipingo takeover at 40/= per share
charming soul
#51 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:20:30 PM
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I feel cheated and betrayed. I was actually planning to hold my vipingo shares long term and to be used as my retirement security. I travelled to mombasa last year to see land that stima Sacco was selling in vipingo opposite the ridge at 1.8m per 1/4 acre and land sold by rea vipingo to the vipingo ridge is going for over 20m for the same size of plot. Not only is land scarce but the value has ripened and these buyers are exploiting innocent minority shareholders. Can't the share holders protest? Isn't CMA supposed to protect the rights of shareholders? Will theft just allow the big fish to swallow us alive? Do we not have the right to retain our minority holding regardless who owns the majority shares.can they force us to sell? Shouldn't their offer be in parallel to the net asset value of the share which should be over Kshs 3000 per share? Based on just land value leave alone performance of the company. Pls advise. Even reading Alykhan Satchu's article this is a rip off they are buying our land at 43 thousand Kshs an acre. This is day light robbery can't we appeal for justice????
charming soul
#52 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 11:26:05 PM
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By the way I don't recall getting any compensation in terms of a special dividend when vipingo sold some of its land to vipingo ridge. Does the company not require the shareholders consent when disposing off fixed assets and should they not have compensated shareholders after sale of that parcel of land?
Murenju
#53 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:00:38 PM
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The Robinows will not sell their shares to Centum. Centum is just attempting to keep REA at NSE.
Knock hard and it will be opened. Ask and you will be answered. Seek and you shall find.
the deal
#54 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:45:48 PM
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He is just bitter...if he believed in Vipingo that much why did he sell?

"I owned 1% of the shares once but
out of frustration and high carry
costs , I switched position so allow
me try and unpack the numbers for
you"

The two brothers are clear on what they want to do...thats to keep growing Sisal...I'm against this idea of killing Kenya's biggest forex earner for the sake of real estate....the Agricultural sector apart from being a big forex earner it employs thousands...should this jobs be lost because of greed?!
sorovi
#55 Posted : Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:21:28 PM
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Game still not over yetShame on you Shame on you , another suitor proposes a price of sh. 55 per share..

AIB values the the share at Sh168.72 Applause Applause

"AIB Capital in a research note released yesterday said the total estimated value of land before adjusting for illiquidity discount, stands at Sh15.46 billion, pointing to the allure that the three bidders could be responding to.

We assumed a 30 per cent illiquidity discount on the sale of land, accounting for Sh4.64 billion, therefore reducing value to Sh10.82 billion before accounting for liabilities,” said the report authored by research analyst Parshva Shah. From REA Vipingo half-year 2013 results, the firm’s total liabilities stood at Sh701.81 million. This puts the value of the company at Sh168.72 per share or Sh10.12 billion without accounting for other assets"

link
VituVingiSana
#56 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:25:11 AM
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the deal wrote:
He is just bitter...if he believed in Vipingo that much why did he sell?

"I owned 1% of the shares once but
out of frustration and high carry
costs , I switched position so allow
me try and unpack the numbers for
you"

The two brothers are clear on what they want to do...thats to keep growing Sisal...I'm against this idea of killing Kenya's biggest forex earner for the sake of real estate....the Agricultural sector apart from being a big forex earner it employs thousands...should this jobs be lost because of greed?!
@thedeal, what are your major holdings?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#57 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:35:36 AM
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Posts: 4,534
Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
He is just bitter...if he believed in Vipingo that much why did he sell?

"I owned 1% of the shares once but
out of frustration and high carry
costs , I switched position so allow
me try and unpack the numbers for
you"

The two brothers are clear on what they want to do...thats to keep growing Sisal...I'm against this idea of killing Kenya's biggest forex earner for the sake of real estate....the Agricultural sector apart from being a big forex earner it employs thousands...should this jobs be lost because of greed?!
@thedeal, what are your major holdings?

1. My portfolio is public knowledge....I even give quaterly performance updates.

2. Where was everyone? Why do we have all of sudden this huge interest in Vipingo's land? I cant recall any research firm offering coverage on RVP!

3. For me I rather have Ksh40 now than wait 2 years and not receive Ksh50...the opportunity cost is too high. Coz Trust me any bid apart from those two brothers will not succed.

4. Whats the point of having a relisted RVP with a divided board? Because Centum & the two brothers are clearly not on the same page in terms of strategy!

VituVingiSana
#58 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 9:49:19 AM
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@the deal - "1. My portfolio is public knowledge....I even give quarterly performance updates." is not an answer. Of course, you need not answer the question but at least tell me you don't want to.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#59 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:49:43 AM
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Ah I will stop commenting on this forum...LOL...not good for someone trying to build a brand...all this arguments ultimately hurt ones brand...since you cant control who responds to your post here....its also not good for clients...I have clients who hold huge positions in RVP based on my recommendations...you can follow me on twitter @mikada08 I will follow back. For those interested in my portfolio and quarterly updates go to my blog....from now its twitter and blog.
mkonomtupu
#60 Posted : Wednesday, December 11, 2013 11:12:54 AM
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Joined: 2/10/2010
Posts: 1,001
Location: River Road
the deal wrote:
Ah I will stop commenting on this forum...LOL...not good for someone trying to build a brand...all this arguments ultimately hurt ones brand...since you cant control who responds to your post here....its also not good for clients...I have clients who hold huge positions in RVP based on my recommendations...you can follow me on twitter @mikada08 I will follow back. For those interested in my portfolio and quarterly updates go to my blog....from now its twitter and blog.


@deal, I think wazua helped you build your brand, this forum has some of the sharpest minds and the arguments are what makes wazua tick, knives sharpening knives.
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