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ICC HE Uhuru Kenyatta PORK - 12th November
McReggae
#101 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:29:19 PM
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Teller1 wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
@ecstacy, see below why the constitution actually provides for prosecution of the President.
Quote:
Chapter Nine - The Executive
Article 143. Protection from legal proceedings
(1) Criminal proceedings shall not be instituted or continued in any court against the President or a person performing the functions of that office, during their tenure of office.
(2) Civil proceedings shall not be instituted in any court against the President or the person performing the functions of that office during their tenure of office in respect of anything done or not done in the exercise of their powers under this Constitution.
(3) Where provision is made in law limiting the time within which proceedings under clause (1) or (2) may be brought against a person, a period of time during which the person holds or performs the functions of the office of the President shall not be taken into account in calculating the period of time prescribed by that law.
(4) The immunity of the President under this Article shall not extend to a crime for which the President may be prosecuted under any treaty to which Kenya is party and which prohibits such immunity.


Me thinks subarticle 4 was written with an Uhuruto Presidency in mind by the COE!

Parliament should repeal this article.


2nd wazua post for Teller......ok!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
alma
#102 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 6:32:09 PM
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Quote:
43. Second, the Chamber observes that, in order to achieve this goal, article 27(1) and (2) of
the Statute provide for the following core principles:
(i) "This Statute shall apply equally to all persons without any
distinction based on official capacity;"
(ii) "[...] official capacity as a Head of State or Government, a
member of Government or parliament, an elected representative or
a government official shall in no case exempt a person from
criminal responsibility under this Statute, nor shall it, in and of
itself, constitute a ground for reduction of sentence;" and
(iii) "Immunities or special procedural rides which may attach to the
official capacity of a person, whether under national or
international law, shall not bar the Court from exercising its
jurisdiction over such a person. "


So there you go. The courts ruled on this head of state stuff, they don't love africa stuff a long time ago.

The question we should be asking ourselves is

"when the accused refuse to go to the Hague, what will happen to your bank account?"

I'm in the school of thought that the fellows shown in today's Gado cartoon are busy working to convince him not to go.

So what does it mean to you.

Don't forget that a few weeks ago, they were facing China. They said 465 billion, then it turned to 19.5 billion. Kumbe the Chinese save their money?

Let's change the topic because its a bit boring and belated.

Uhuruto are not being charged. They are already charged.

So when the accused shall decide not to go to the Hague, what happens to you.

Team 1: Nothing, we are a sovereign nation and love africa and we shall sing kumbaya till 2032.

Team 2: He said the Hague is a personal affair.

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Siringi
#103 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:12:51 PM
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The bench my oh my it's hot blazing hawt
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Siringi
#104 Posted : Thursday, October 10, 2013 11:48:22 PM
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TEAM UHURU APPLIES FOR PERMANENT STAY OF PROCEEDINGS CITES FRAUDULENT PROCUREMENT OF WITNESSES RINK !!!!!
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Siringi
#105 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 2:19:38 AM
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For those who went to bed early this is how it went down

It was smoking hot

"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
Tokyo
#106 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 3:08:24 AM
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Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??
work to prosper
maka
#107 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 7:25:37 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??

He is going in...
possunt quia posse videntur
Muriel
#108 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 7:46:19 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Why oh why have ICC forced our leaders to be shamed so?

Its so unfair.

Tutu is a coward and a sellout and loves mzungus instead of loving chinese.

We are free countries, not colonies. Why are they after our mboys?


Laugh laugh laugh!
Muriel
#109 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 7:47:55 AM
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simonkabz wrote:
Was reading that Tutu piece. So the world is more dangerous coz of African leaders? Why do I find ICC supporters very shallow, and of course for kenya, idiotic? So Africa needs ICC to be checked in its tracks coz of its propensity to crimes against humanity? What a load of horse shit!

DOWN WITH ICC!

Justice for Kenya is a complicated affair, and MILLIONs of kenyans would love to see a few "very clean n innocent" heads decapitated in public n thrown to the dogs. .....but that won't happen anyway. The best way for this country is to get out of that kangaroo shithole if it can't give ALL OF US justice. Tukae na ujinga wetu.


I love your passion.
alma
#110 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 8:09:34 AM
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kweli matsanga is going to the hague?

I only hope he doesn't tell us that he won't go because it is unconstitutional like his friend barasa....If he's innocent, apande ndege bila uwoga.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
McReggae
#111 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 8:48:24 AM
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Siringi
#112 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 8:55:05 AM
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any guesses where the file Matsanga 'found' not stole Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you is?

@maka you ought to watch the clip again and listen carefully. He was investigated and the case kaputt.

maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??

He is going in...


@alma he was there and he is going back to file a case

alma wrote:
kweli matsanga is going to the hague?

I only hope he doesn't tell us that he won't go because it is unconstitutional like his friend barasa....If he's innocent, apande ndege bila uwoga.

"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
tycho
#113 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 9:02:39 AM
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maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??

He is going in...


My goggles can't see how Matsanga is a pan Africanist. Maybe he'd desire to be one, and or is in fact trying to be one.

It's much like an adolescent's rebellion. Perhaps that's why he kept insisting that he was 56. But it's a good thing that the African spirit is a place of shelter for us during these times.

Only we have to be very careful that we don't embrace a false idea. So far, I think we are on the verge of losing it. Like pan Africanism isn't just about internationalism, but also globalism. And thus its demeanor and character must always be conservative and transformative. Like now, Kenya ought to be conserving and transforming the ICC, and making it a just and true institution.

But it seems that the decision makers don't hold this view; even despite the fact that even if the bid to pull out of ICC succeeded we'd still need to gather nations under a common sense of Justice.
alma
#114 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 9:24:39 AM
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Siringi wrote:
any guesses where the file Matsanga 'found' not stole Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you is?

@maka you ought to watch the clip again and listen carefully. He was investigated and the case kaputt.

maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??

He is going in...


@alma he was there and he is going back to file a case

alma wrote:
kweli matsanga is going to the hague?

I only hope he doesn't tell us that he won't go because it is unconstitutional like his friend barasa....If he's innocent, apande ndege bila uwoga.



I will bet you @siringi that if a warrant of arrest was issued against matsanga, he will not go. Bravado is only 15min on TV then the rest of your life. And he's oozing all of it.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Wendz
#115 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 11:36:22 AM
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Magigi wrote:
Stumbled on this on twitter
If jkia burnt, westgate was attacked and leaders circulated their nude photos while the president is around, what if he is away?


hahahahahaha... dead and buried!
King G
#116 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 12:08:01 PM
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Now Now Now with every body addressing the Judge as Mr. President, Ohuru will be very confused in that court.

Let him not go. Niko nyuma yake vilivyo!!!!!
Thieves
ecstacy
#117 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 12:13:08 PM
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Matsanga is not doing any of his bosses (assuming there are) favors with this kind of media appearance.
McReggae
#118 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 12:25:49 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
Matsanga is not doing any of his bosses (assuming there are) favors with this kind of media appearance.


I thought so!!!
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Kusadikika
#119 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 3:27:57 PM
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alma wrote:
Siringi wrote:
any guesses where the file Matsanga 'found' not stole Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you is?

@maka you ought to watch the clip again and listen carefully. He was investigated and the case kaputt.

maka wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Matsanga on fire. What's on that Ocampo file he stole??

He is going in...


@alma he was there and he is going back to file a case

alma wrote:
kweli matsanga is going to the hague?

I only hope he doesn't tell us that he won't go because it is unconstitutional like his friend barasa....If he's innocent, apande ndege bila uwoga.



I will bet you @siringi that if a warrant of arrest was issued against matsanga, he will not go. Bravado is only 15min on TV then the rest of your life. And he's oozing all of it.


The man is a British citizen. The legal process involved to get him out of Britain could take 20 years. Have you seen Archbishop Deya around. Am telling you this ICC is for African Countries.

Gathige
#120 Posted : Friday, October 11, 2013 3:55:32 PM
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King G wrote:
Now Now Now with every body addressing the Judge as Mr. President, Ohuru will be very confused in that court.

Let him not go. Niko nyuma yake vilivyo!!!!!



@King, I agree with you. As one Matsanga would ask, where will he keep the sword(Njora)in that court or who will he leave it behind with?
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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