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It is part of the mainstream media. It is Uncle Sam's propaganda machine focused on Middle East. faa wrote:Aljazeera is owned by Qatar government. If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar government and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:It is part of the mainstream media. It is Uncle Sam's propaganda machine focused on Middle East. faa wrote:Aljazeera is owned by Qatar government. If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar government and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly. So according to you which media house do we listen to, of course other tha those headquartered in Moscow. A little consistency in your ideological narrative wouldnt hurt, hoping that is not to ask for too much. Saudi Arabia and most others in middle East dont see eye to eye with Al jazeera. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Ngalaka wrote:Trumps erratic behaviour not withstanding, is there a chance that world powers would fight (confront one another) because of Syria!
Are the stakes high enough!
This applies to both sides, - weighing the pros and cons. My reason is... Rüssïä is Christian, sincerely Christian, not part-time Christian like kina @mukiri. Rüssïä considers Syrïä to be at the heart of Orthodox world. This is the last remaining part of earth which they must save and salvage. If Rüssïä did not intervene in Syrïä militarily then Syrïä would have already become another Libya. There are so many jackasses in the world who would celebrate if Syrïä would become another Libya.So, anyway, the reason why Rüssïä are in Syria is to save Syrïä from being another Libya. If Syrïä were to become another Libya there are large Christian community in Syrïä. And these Christians are some of them are Western Christians, but some of them are Orthodox. But this blood thirty Uncle Sam wedging their war would have slaughtered every Christian in Syria if they had succeeded. We thank Allah that Rüssïä intervened.But of course, the propaganda warriors in Wazua do not believe, kina @nandwa and @ngalaka believe otherwise, and they are voting for UN security council to go in... So I think this is gonna be a tough stand off. Rüssïä is not afraid for war. You cannot kill the truth.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Njung'e wrote:faa wrote:Aljazeera is owned by Qatar goverment.
If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar goverment and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly.
It's investigative unit is one of the best in the world, programmes like witness, 101 East are top notch.
Now the issue is Qatar has been secretly supporting organizations like Muslim brotherhood in Egypt , MB is a terrorist organization, there are allegations that it support ISIS through Al-nusra front.
That and many other allegations informed the decision
True that but i think this has been used as a first line excuse. I think the real issue here is the warm relations Qatar has with Iran. The other Gulf states do not want to be lorded over by Iran and i think this crisis is meant to check that. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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AlphDoti wrote:KulaRaha wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/qatar-crisis-economy-diplomatic-links-torn-middle-east-russia-hacking-real-story-robert-fisk-a7778616.html But if we look a bit further down the road, it’s not difficult to see what really worries the Saudis. Qatar also maintains quiet links with the Assad regime. It helped secure the release of Syrian Christian nuns in Jabhat al-Nusrah hands and has helped release Lebanese soldiers from Isis hands in western Syria. When the nuns emerged from captivity, they thanked both Bashar al-Assad and Qatar. <end of quote> Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Nandwa wrote:AlphDoti wrote:It is part of the mainstream media. It is Uncle Sam's propaganda machine focused on Middle East. faa wrote:Aljazeera is owned by Qatar government. If you watch it, you will notice that it focuses on happenings mostly happening in Islamic countries, It's well funded by the Qatar government and a good propaganda machinery, that is biased if you observe keenly. So according to you which media house do we listen to, of course other tha those headquartered in Moscow. A little consistency in your ideological narrative wouldnt hurt, hoping that is not to ask for too much. Saudi Arabia and most others in middle East dont see eye to eye with Al jazeera. You can listen to any news channel you want. But separate the chaff from the grain ma fren. Don't just swallow everything you hear, because sometimes you're being programmed, just because it was on CNN doesn't mean it is always true, seeing it on Fox doesn't mean it is always real. Seeing it on al-Jazeera doesn't mean 100% correct... it being on Al-Jazeera and about Arabia doesn't mean it is true... when you hear Olenku say, it doesn't mean it is true
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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To Russia Syria is simply a client state whose value to them is hardly more than ornamental, read ego boosting. Egypt used to be in similar position until they realised they were backing the wrong Horse. They change course and have since moved on. Syria is in that situation largely because of Assad's political survival calculations for himself regardless of what is in the best interest of Syrian people. As a result of the mess there, many Syrians are lining up to emigrate to Europe and US. Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Nandwa wrote:To Russia Syria is simply a client state whose value to them is hardly more than ornamental, read ego boosting.
Egypt used to be in similar position until they realised they were backing the wrong Horse. They change course and have since moved on.
Syria is in that situation largely because of Assad's political survival calculations for himself regardless of what is in the best interest of Syrian people.
As a result of the mess there, many Syrians are lining up to emigrate to Europe and US.
That may well be so. But how does the US expect to get away with cooking the evidence, as Russia is claiming? Especially if we recall that Iraq was yet another false flag adventure that went disastrously wrong. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Nandwa wrote:To Russia Syria is simply a client state whose value to them is hardly more than ornamental, read ego boosting.
Egypt used to be in similar position until they realised they were backing the wrong Horse. They change course and have since moved on.
Syria is in that situation largely because of Assad's political survival calculations for himself regardless of what is in the best interest of Syrian people.
As a result of the mess there, many Syrians are lining up to emigrate to Europe and US.
hapo Syrians hawana best interests, actually they are/were better with Assad, shida is the democratic/human rights movement, you can't apply those ideologies everywhere some places are just better left the way they are.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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Wakanyugi wrote:Nandwa wrote:To Russia Syria is simply a client state whose value to them is hardly more than ornamental, read ego boosting.
Egypt used to be in similar position until they realised they were backing the wrong Horse. They change course and have since moved on.
Syria is in that situation largely because of Assad's political survival calculations for himself regardless of what is in the best interest of Syrian people.
As a result of the mess there, many Syrians are lining up to emigrate to Europe and US.
That may well be so. But how does the US expect to get away with cooking the evidence, as Russia is claiming? Especially if we recall that Iraq was yet another false flag adventure that went disastrously wrong. I think the americans got carried away by their success in germany, japan and s.korea, they just went bombed them then rebuilt their countries in the way they wanted, but they forgot everyone is not a german, that you defeat in war and expect them to lie down and take anything given. some people are just hard headed, they would rather do away with that beautiful rebuild, and I think that was the case in vietnam, afghanistan, iraq and to some extent syria
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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sitaki.kujulikana wrote:Wakanyugi wrote:Nandwa wrote:To Russia Syria is simply a client state whose value to them is hardly more than ornamental, read ego boosting.
Egypt used to be in similar position until they realised they were backing the wrong Horse. They change course and have since moved on.
Syria is in that situation largely because of Assad's political survival calculations for himself regardless of what is in the best interest of Syrian people.
As a result of the mess there, many Syrians are lining up to emigrate to Europe and US. That may well be so. But how does the US expect to get away with cooking the evidence, as Russia is claiming? Especially if we recall that Iraq was yet another false flag adventure that went disastrously wrong. I think the americans got carried away by their success in germany, japan and s.korea, they just went bombed them then rebuilt their countries in the way they wanted, but they forgot everyone is not a german, that you defeat in war and expect them to lie down and take anything given. some people are just hard headed, they would rather do away with that beautiful rebuild, and I think that was the case in vietnam, afghanistan, iraq and to some extent syria It is not being hardheaded... Santa Claus has been exposed. They have now been known to be the cause of all this mess in the world... they provide money, they provide the military training, they provide military support... and people have discovered. They should be resisted now... 'The people we were fighting today, we funded 20 years ago...' Hilary Clinton.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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My take is, Rüssïä is doing the right thing to intervene in Syrïä. To prevent Syrïä from becoming another Libya...
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AlphDoti wrote:My take is, Rüssïä is doing the right thing to intervene in Syrïä. To prevent Syrïä from becoming another Libya... Syria IS WORSE THAN LIBYA!  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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US,UK,France strike "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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murchr wrote:US,UK,France strike Are we expecting a Russia, China, N.Korea, and possibly Iran alignment on the other side? IN the meantime, U.N. Sec. Gen Antonio Guterres courageously tells off the US, UK and France for violating a cardinal international law when they attacked Syria without UN Security Council approval...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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What changed? - Turkey which lately has been cosying to Russia takes the opposite side on this matter: Quote:
"We welcome this operation which has eased humanity's conscience in the face of the attack in Douma, largely suspected to have been carried out by the regime," the Turkish foreign ministry said in a statement.
It accused Damascus of carrying out "crimes against humanity and war crimes" during Syria's seven-year civil war.
Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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Fundamental question that directly touches on us is, what is the effect of the air strikes on the markets? What has transpired in the past?
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 Did the Arab make any comments when Africans were being butchered in Libya? Why are we too much to care when on the other hand they are being butchered or reduced as they reduced us? They Think being black is being less and we should also take them same. God for the African will give us more peace and jobs Time the white generation will be strike will come even if it is 20 yrs from now. The African need to put much of their efforts in Education, creation of jobs, science and technology....who knows we would later discover something that can empower us more the the white gun and bomb?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 1,049
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Russian Millitary plane with 15 servicemen downed by Russian anti-aircraft missile fired by SyriaQuote:According to Russian and Israeli forces, the Syrian regime accidentally shot down the Russian Ilyushin-20 surveillance plane off the Syria coast late Monday.
"The United States expresses sorrow for the death of the aircrew members of the Russian plane that was downed by Syrian regime anti-aircraft fire," Pompeo said in a statement.
It "reminds us of the need to find permanent, peaceful, and political resolutions to the many overlapping conflicts in the region and the danger of tragic miscalculation in Syria's crowded theater of operations." Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
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