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kamundu
#51 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:31:49 PM
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@bwenyenye do your homework before you post. Sit down with a registrar/resident and ask them what they go through. Otherwise your comments are quite insesitive.

Fyi aga khan has a residency program (masters) and they pay those guys a salary. So does kijabe so does tenwek (fellowships) when you step into this hospitals chances are you will get good service coz that guy is not thinking of where to get Septembers rent.
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alma
#52 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:41:10 PM
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@kamundu give us real numbers and figures. So far we arent moved. maybe numbers will.
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maka
#53 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 9:56:33 PM
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Eish peeps are brutal no prisoners taken....Round 1:Kamundu you still havent moved anyone.
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kamundu
#54 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:04:19 PM
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Real numbers.
Number of doctors in Kenya= 6,500 of whom about 50 to 60 % are in active practice.
Doctor to patient ratio 1:10,000. WHO Recommends 1:500.
Number of dentists in Kenya = 800 of whom 50% are in active practice
Dentist to patient ratio 1:100,000 WHO recommends 1:500
Number of specialists <1000 for a population of 40m. Eg
Orthopaedics <50
dermatology <10
neurosurgery<10
oral surgery maxillofacial (dental speciality). <15
nephrology <20

etc etc
So why wouldnt the gava want to support masters programs? Whether one is self sponsored or not once they qualify they will be serving kenyans.

If you or a loved one needed one of this people, God forbid, and you have to wait for days to see them, you would realise why we need specialists kwa wingi
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murchr
#55 Posted : Thursday, September 06, 2012 10:38:49 PM
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kamundu wrote:
Real numbers.
Number of doctors in Kenya= 6,500 of whom about 50 to 60 % are in active practice.
Doctor to patient ratio 1:10,000. WHO Recommends 1:500.
Number of dentists in Kenya = 800 of whom 50% are in active practice
Dentist to patient ratio 1:100,000 WHO recommends 1:500
Number of specialists <1000 for a population of 40m. Eg
Orthopaedics <50
dermatology <10
neurosurgery<10
oral surgery maxillofacial (dental speciality). <15
nephrology <20

etc etc
So why wouldnt the gava want to support masters programs? Whether one is self sponsored or not once they qualify they will be serving kenyans.

If you or a loved one needed one of this people, God forbid, and you have to wait for days to see them, you would realise why we need specialists kwa wingi


I wouldn't mind if the govt supports the doctors for masters as long as they surrender their passport and sign agreements that they will work for the govt for 15 years. I say this because the country trains many doctors most of whom dash out of the country immediately after they graduate for greener pastures in countries that do very little to train their own doctors.
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kamundu
#56 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2012 8:16:55 AM
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All they are asking is that they are compensated for working after learning hours, otherwise KNH should hire their own doctors to work after classes etc. Those other residency programs have no strings attached. It is a symbiotic relationship Eg aga khan gets to hire committed doctors who on the other hand use the experience to get specialist training. Once their contract is over, they part ways.

I rest my case
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McReggae
#57 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2012 8:24:35 AM
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@Kamundu,
I thought by figures you lay bare how much yo9u are paid so that we can compare with other proffessions, these are people who want a fat salary plus their masters programs paid for!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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nakujua
#58 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2012 8:45:32 AM
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kamundu wrote:
All they are asking is that they are compensated for working after learning hours, otherwise KNH should hire their own doctors to work after classes etc. Those other residency programs have no strings attached. It is a symbiotic relationship Eg aga khan gets to hire committed doctors who on the other hand use the experience to get specialist training. Once their contract is over, they part ways.

I rest my case


I find it odd when comparing aga khan to KNH
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McReggae
#59 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2012 8:51:09 AM
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nakujua wrote:
kamundu wrote:
All they are asking is that they are compensated for working after learning hours, otherwise KNH should hire their own doctors to work after classes etc. Those other residency programs have no strings attached. It is a symbiotic relationship Eg aga khan gets to hire committed doctors who on the other hand use the experience to get specialist training. Once their contract is over, they part ways.

I rest my case


I find it odd when comparing aga khan to KNH


....he wants Aga Khan and KNH to be at par!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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kamundu
#60 Posted : Friday, September 07, 2012 9:03:42 AM
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McReggae wrote:
nakujua wrote:
kamundu wrote:
All they are asking is that they are compensated for working after learning hours, otherwise KNH should hire their own doctors to work after classes etc. Those other residency programs have no strings attached. It is a symbiotic relationship Eg aga khan gets to hire committed doctors who on the other hand use the experience to get specialist training. Once their contract is over, they part ways.

I rest my case


I find it odd when comparing aga khan to KNH


....he wants Aga Khan and KNH to be at par!!!!



And why not? Si you want better healthcare?
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