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alma1
#561 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:15:43 PM
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Think about this clearly.

The danger of Kenyans living in their homes for 21 days or the danger of kenyans filling up Kenyatta Hospital for 6 months. Which is worse?

And don't say it's a flu.

Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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murchr
#562 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:16:48 PM
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@mkenyan,

My issue is not about the treatment in a private hospital but did the govt know that he was a case or has he also spread it? Community spreading is the most dangerous case.

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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newfarer
#563 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:17:34 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
We need to push for extensive and widespread testing and isolation of positive cases a la South Korea combined with social distancing and enhanced hygiene measures. It's simply impractical and a recipe for chaos to lock down the entire population. We also need to urgently equip our hospitals and medics in preparation for a massive outbreak.



Good ideas but where is the equipment and where are the medics? Since we do not manufacture,we can only import.Who will sell to us right now.

Nitwathira.

Keep the hope my girl. don't join the bad dooms prophets
punda amecheka
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alma1
#564 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:21:58 PM
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murchr wrote:




@mkenyan,

My issue is not about the treatment in a private hospital but did the govt know that he was a case or has he also spread it? Community spreading is the most dangerous case.



Our politicians and religious fanatics have basically doomed us to a few more weeks of fear.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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tycho
#565 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:40:03 PM
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alma1 wrote:
Think about this clearly.

The danger of Kenyans living in their homes for 21 days or the danger of kenyans filling up Kenyatta Hospital for 6 months. Which is worse?

And don't say it's a flu.



The question is: What is the danger of Kenyans keeping in their houses for an indefinite period with no or little support systems: or the danger of adapting and fighting to reduce the spread quickly and actively while being able to support their families?

Maybe it's a personality issue, but I prefer an active defence. Maybe I am just hyper. Consider how easy it is for you to move from '14 days' to 21, others are talking of 3 months, what science are you folks using, so that we can know how to make that sacrifice?
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tycho
#566 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:53:36 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
We need to push for extensive and widespread testing and isolation of positive cases a la South Korea combined with social distancing and enhanced hygiene measures. It's simply impractical and a recipe for chaos to lock down the entire population. We also need to urgently equip our hospitals and medics in preparation for a massive outbreak.



Good ideas but where is the equipment and where are the medics? Since we do not manufacture,we can only import.Who will sell to us right now.

Nitwathira.

Keep the hope my girl. don't join the bad dooms prophets


If we can't test, then we must presume we're all infected. What remains is monitoring symptoms and taking agreed treatments. You have seen the letter above telling patients with mild symptoms to remain home. How does a mild pneumonia look like? How can we deal with it from home, given realities like, the patients need care givers, a treatment, and hope?

Do you know, for example, any stigma associated with Covid is counterproductive? If we are keen to show that we are not infected, even those who suspect themselves will pretend all is fine: and infect more people.
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alma1
#567 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 3:56:59 PM
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tycho wrote:
alma1 wrote:
Think about this clearly.

The danger of Kenyans living in their homes for 21 days or the danger of kenyans filling up Kenyatta Hospital for 6 months. Which is worse?

And don't say it's a flu.



The question is: What is the danger of Kenyans keeping in their houses for an indefinite period with no or little support systems: or the danger of adapting and fighting to reduce the spread quickly and actively while being able to support their families?

Maybe it's a personality issue, but I prefer an an active defence. Maybe I am just hyper. Consider how easy it is for you to move from '14 days' to 21, others are talking of 3 months, what science are you folks using, so that we can know how to make that sacrifice?



Because for probably one of the few times in life, you are being presented with evidence that you can see unfolding in front of your eyes.

Those countries that wear masks have reduced their infections. Those countries that locked down have reduced their infections. Those countries that locked down early have continued with their day to day lives.

On the other hand, those countries that were talking about democratic rights and sijui poor people will not survive are just getting started on the path of economic destruction.

What else do you want to be told? A Bible quote or a wise saying?

The data is right there for you to look at.

The choice is yours.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Bigchick
#568 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 4:16:11 PM
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murchr wrote:




@mkenyan,

My issue is not about the treatment in a private hospital but did the govt know that he was a case or has he also spread it? Community spreading is the most dangerous case.



The reason CS Kagwe is insisting that we only have one source of information.This is very misleading.

This is one of the cases reported earlier.He is one of the contacts with the Kilifi DG.You can see it is dated 25th March.

Let's only reason to Kagwe please.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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Bigchick
#569 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 4:17:45 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Shak wrote:
We need to push for extensive and widespread testing and isolation of positive cases a la South Korea combined with social distancing and enhanced hygiene measures. It's simply impractical and a recipe for chaos to lock down the entire population. We also need to urgently equip our hospitals and medics in preparation for a massive outbreak.



Good ideas but where is the equipment and where are the medics? Since we do not manufacture,we can only import.Who will sell to us right now.

Nitwathira.

Keep the hope my girl. don't join the bad dooms prophets


Am very hopeful.But sometimes am drifting and struggling to understand the situation.
Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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sqft
#570 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2020 4:18:00 PM
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https://www.the-star.co....d-blocks-during-curfew/

Quote:
There will be no movement, either alone or in groups during the dusk to dawn curfew, IG Hillary Mutyambai has said.

Mutyambai told police to raise road blocks to prevent movement of vehicles.

Any motorist found outside the allowed time will have the vehicles detained and the owners will be arraigned.
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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