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Law Capping interest rates
wukan
#1121 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:16:05 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
Where are those doomsayers, eti oooh, banks will not lend, oooooh , the end of kenyan economy, oooh sme will suffer from lack of credit. Wako wapi wajitokeze. In the history of Kenyan banks, no bank has ever collapsed because they lent to Wanjiku and that is a FACT.



Be patient it's early dayssmile smile . Time for reckoning will come. I'm sure you don't know Rural Urban creidt, Jimba credit, kenya savings & mortgages, Union bank of kenya etc
holycow
#1122 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:20:30 PM
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Banks are simply converting most accounts to non-interest earning accounts. Barclays and KCB leading. So much for the law being an ass.

Quote:
Effective 14th Sep ‘16, KCB Jiinue a/c is now a non-interest earning transactional account Click ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/jiinue


Dear Customer, KCB Mapato account is now a non-interest earning transactional account. Visit ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/mapato
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1123 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:25:31 PM
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Gonna let this topic simmer for a year, then I will re-visit it and start crowing to akina @Maichblack and his doomsayer band.

Will keep doing that on the anniversary of signing this law until the economic Armageddon that they predicted comes to pass. smile smile
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
Obi 1 Kanobi
#1124 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:27:21 PM
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holycow wrote:
Banks are simply converting most accounts to non-interest earning accounts. Barclays and KCB leading. So much for the law being an ass.

Quote:
Effective 14th Sep ‘16, KCB Jiinue a/c is now a non-interest earning transactional account Click ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/jiinue


Dear Customer, KCB Mapato account is now a non-interest earning transactional account. Visit ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/mapato


They are not converting anything, just move your deposits to victoria Bank, Transnational Bank or any other of the 42 competitiors and they will soon shika adabu
"The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
kayhara
#1125 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:35:02 PM
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Impunity wrote:
maka wrote:
newfarer wrote:
watesh wrote:
BOOOM!! KCB has countered Equitel with 1.2% per month on KCB Mpesa product

This is cool men



Cool is an understatement....


Orgasmic!

smile Now this leaves mshwari as the most expensive, waiting to see of they will react, what about other non bank mobile lending I know of Branch, Tala, Saida etc what will be their counter move.
To Each His Own
streetwise
#1126 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:43:15 PM
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CBA management is showing very poor leadership here.

First it was loan at 12.9%, then they revised to 14.5%, now it is mobile money loan , what else don't they know ?.
penkon
#1127 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:46:13 PM
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wukan wrote:
tom_boy wrote:
Where are those doomsayers, eti oooh, banks will not lend, oooooh , the end of kenyan economy, oooh sme will suffer from lack of credit. Wako wapi wajitokeze. In the history of Kenyan banks, no bank has ever collapsed because they lent to Wanjiku and that is a FACT.



Be patient it's early dayssmile smile . Time for reckoning will come. I'm sure you don't know Rural Urban creidt, Jimba credit, kenya savings & mortgages, Union bank of kenya etc


nowadays its saccos, i believe its hard. those where politically fueled credit shops to fleece your village
Swenani
#1128 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 12:48:44 PM
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Quote:
RE: UPDATE ON NUFAIKA SAVINGS ACCOUNT

Commercial Bank of Africa Limited (CBA) wishes to announce that in line with the Banking (Amendment) Act, 2016 we have carried out a detailed review of all our products and services with a view to simplifying our offering and providing more value to our customers.

In view of the above, the Bank will effective 14th October 2016, convert your Nufaika Savings Account to a Prosaver Savings Account whose offering is detailed below.

Your account number and other details will remain unchanged.

Account Name: Prosaver Savings Account
Features
· Minimum interest rate of 7.35% p.a. (70% of the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as advised from time to time by the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) which currently stands at 10.5% p.a.) on local currency interest bearing deposits, as provided for in the law. This is effective 14th September 2016.

· Opening and Operating balance of Kshs. 10,000.00*

· Minimum interest earning balance of Kshs. 10,000.00

· One withdrawal allowed per month otherwise interest is forfeited.

· Withdrawals are restricted to ‘over the counter’.

· Any withdrawals leading to a balance below the specified minimum operating level will lead to transfer of such amounts to a non-interest bearing transactional account and / or onward closure of the said Savings Account.

· Access to personal overdraft and loans of up to 75% of savings account balance

· Mobile and internet banking – account viewing rights and intra account transfers

· Interest paid bi-annually i.e. end of June and end of December.

If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Siringi
#1129 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 1:32:11 PM
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Sad Sad My Bank is playing clever with me ... they gave me this circular saying that only A/c that do not have more that two withdrawals per annum are eligible to earn the 7%
If you make more than two withdrawals your account becomes a non-interest earning transaction account !!!!!! is this not circumventing the law Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you ? Wapi Okoit Okiyah Omtatah
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
HaMaina
#1130 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 1:38:39 PM
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Interest rate caps save seven NSE-listed firms Sh800m finance costs

http://www.businessdaily...83364-lohv44z/index.html
“You can get in way more trouble with a good idea than a bad idea, because you forget that the good idea has limits.” - Ben Graham
Swenani
#1131 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 1:45:55 PM
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[quote=HaMaina]Interest rate caps save seven NSE-listed firms Sh800m finance costs

http://www.businessdaily...3364-lohv44z/index.html[/quote]

these companies took loans of above 15%?????
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
Impunity
#1132 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:09:37 PM
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Siringi wrote:
Sad Sad My Bank is playing clever with me ... they gave me this circular saying that only A/c that do not have more that two withdrawals per amount are eligible to earn the 7%
If you make more than two withdrawals your account becomes a non-interest earning transaction account !!!!!! is this not circumventing the law Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you ? Wapi Okoit Okiyah Omtatah
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


What is this?

Quote:
two withdrawals per amount

Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

penkon
#1133 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:30:36 PM
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Impunity wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Sad Sad My Bank is playing clever with me ... they gave me this circular saying that only A/c that do not have more that two withdrawals per amount are eligible to earn the 7%
If you make more than two withdrawals your account becomes a non-interest earning transaction account !!!!!! is this not circumventing the law Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you ? Wapi Okoit Okiyah Omtatah
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


What is this?

Quote:
two withdrawals per amount



Njoti mbili ulipe Liar Laughing out loudly
Siringi
#1134 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 2:38:55 PM
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penkon wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Sad Sad My Bank is playing clever with me ... they gave me this circular saying that only A/c that do not have more that two withdrawals per amount are eligible to earn the 7%
If you make more than two withdrawals your account becomes a non-interest earning transaction account !!!!!! is this not circumventing the law Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you ? Wapi Okoit Okiyah Omtatah
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


What is this?

Quote:
two withdrawals per amount



Njoti mbili ulipe Liar Laughing out loudly


My bad per annum (calendar year)
Quote:
..accounts with more than two (2) withdrawals in a calendar year will be automatically migrated to non-interest bearing transactional current accounts


miye huyo nahama Speak to the hand Speak to the hand Speak to the hand
"😖😡KQ makes money for everyone except the shareholder 😏😏 " overheard in Wazua
kayhara
#1135 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 3:00:42 PM
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Joined: 5/5/2011
Posts: 1,059
Swenani wrote:
Quote:
RE: UPDATE ON NUFAIKA SAVINGS ACCOUNT

Commercial Bank of Africa Limited (CBA) wishes to announce that in line with the Banking (Amendment) Act, 2016 we have carried out a detailed review of all our products and services with a view to simplifying our offering and providing more value to our customers.

In view of the above, the Bank will effective 14th October 2016, convert your Nufaika Savings Account to a Prosaver Savings Account whose offering is detailed below.

Your account number and other details will remain unchanged.

Account Name: Prosaver Savings Account
Features
· Minimum interest rate of 7.35% p.a. (70% of the Central Bank Rate (CBR) as advised from time to time by the Central Bank of Kenya (CBK) which currently stands at 10.5% p.a.) on local currency interest bearing deposits, as provided for in the law. This is effective 14th September 2016.

· Opening and Operating balance of Kshs. 10,000.00*

· Minimum interest earning balance of Kshs. 10,000.00

· One withdrawal allowed per month otherwise interest is forfeited.

· Withdrawals are restricted to ‘over the counter’.

· Any withdrawals leading to a balance below the specified minimum operating level will lead to transfer of such amounts to a non-interest bearing transactional account and / or onward closure of the said Savings Account.

· Access to personal overdraft and loans of up to 75% of savings account balance

· Mobile and internet banking – account viewing rights and intra account transfers

· Interest paid bi-annually i.e. end of June and end of December.


Maringo, remmember when banks required 20k minimum balance?
To Each His Own
streetwise
#1136 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 3:08:26 PM
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CBA management is showing very poor leadership here.

First it was loan at 12.9%, then they revised to 14.5%, now it is mobile money loan , what else don't they know ?.
winmak
#1137 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 4:01:17 PM
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Location: Nakuru
Siringi wrote:
penkon wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Siringi wrote:
Sad Sad My Bank is playing clever with me ... they gave me this circular saying that only A/c that do not have more that two withdrawals per amount are eligible to earn the 7%
If you make more than two withdrawals your account becomes a non-interest earning transaction account !!!!!! is this not circumventing the law Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you ? Wapi Okoit Okiyah Omtatah
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!


What is this?

Quote:
two withdrawals per amount



Njoti mbili ulipe Liar Laughing out loudly


My bad per annum (calendar year)
Quote:
..accounts with more than two (2) withdrawals in a calendar year will be automatically migrated to non-interest bearing transactional current accounts


miye huyo nahama Speak to the hand Speak to the hand Speak to the hand


This is basically ab6 monthly fixed deposit
For investors as a whole, returns decrease as motion increases ~ WB
obiero
#1138 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 4:23:03 PM
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tom_boy wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
obiero wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
obiero wrote:
[quote=maka]Look at this;

This month the Central Bank of Kenya offered a 10 year Treasury Bond for a total amount of up to Kshs 25 Billion. The total number of bids received was 795 amounting to Kshs 26.31 Billion. The Weighted average rate for successful bids was 15.039%

Coupon 15.039% crazy...even after WHT its good cash

I spoke to the president and his take was that the government shall pull down borrowing rates for itself, which is a good thing.. Expect government to obtain cheap credit. Watch the tbill rate slide down in coming months. We live in good times

Congrats for speaking with @citizen001 but you should have asked him how the "government shall pull down borrowing rates for itself" when in fact we know the rates are market driven (through auctions)

Beg to differ. The auctions are driven mainly by banks.. Now that banks are pushed to the wall on consumer lending, expect government to show a stiff hand


Rates at the auction won't come down anytime soon....that 10 year was just a start.

91, 182, 364 day bills all down.. Expect the shorter tenor to hit 6.5% by December.. As per Graham's law, the bulls at the NSE must show up shortly.. http://www.businessdaily...4800-b0eb44z/index.html[/quote]

As per my predictions, the dance between banks and Government in pricing billsand bonds has begun. Banks cannot afford to flood CBK with offers! They will have to worksmart.

The race to the bottom by GOK now in play.. Uhuru is a genius of some sort http://www.businessdaily...383760-diyj1o/index.html

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
murchr
#1139 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 6:16:01 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
holycow wrote:
Banks are simply converting most accounts to non-interest earning accounts. Barclays and KCB leading. So much for the law being an ass.

Quote:
Effective 14th Sep ‘16, KCB Jiinue a/c is now a non-interest earning transactional account Click ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/jiinue


Dear Customer, KCB Mapato account is now a non-interest earning transactional account. Visit ke.kcbbankgroup.com/home/accounts/transactional-accounts/mapato


They are not converting anything, just move your deposits to victoria Bank, Transnational Bank or any other of the 42 competitiors and they will soon shika adabu


Then your money goes down the drain like that of those who banked with Imperial
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Kastone
#1140 Posted : Friday, September 16, 2016 6:41:59 PM
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Joined: 3/1/2014
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Banks are science driven. Reduce lending to Wanjiku, convert/make earning the 7.35% interest hard by doing the above or increasing amounts required maybe etc. I hear NBK has sent memos that if you have bad borrowing history you're already disqualified and credit officers to only forward 'clean' loan applications.
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