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The power of financial education
rryyzz
#541 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 9:36:17 AM
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murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Why not start your own thread? Instead of riding on the wave of othersShame on you

This might dilute what Mwalimu shares and/or discourage him from continuing. Live in your own house.


Wazua is not about people but a gathering where participants share their knowledge. If Marty wanted this thread to be about him he'd have had his name on it just like @stockmaster and @yasserbigchair do. Otherwise let those who want to share do so freely.




And just to bring to @Mukiris' attention, the title of this thread is "The power of financial education" So anyone with ideas to educate wazuans is free to share.@Mukiri, uchokozi ni yaniniShame on you Shame on you Shame on you @Murchr, endelea do not be derailed.
Too often we underestimate the power of a touch, a smile, a kind word, a listening ear, an honest compliment, or the smallest act of caring, all of which have the potential to turn a life around.... Leo Buscaglia
PKoli
#542 Posted : Tuesday, May 13, 2014 10:06:00 PM
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One of the important lesson in investing is from the Book, "Winning Investment Habits of Warren Buffet and George Soros." Hold a winning investment until there is a predetermined reason to sell. That is the trading pattern of the master investor. The losing investor on the other hand rarely has a predetermined rule for taking profits. Often scared that a small profit will turn into a loss, so he/she cashes it in - and regularly misses giant gains- look at recent cases of CIC, CFCI and Safaricom.
murchr
#543 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 3:47:37 AM
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VALUE INVESTING.

Its an investment approach whereby an investor buys a stock(s) trading at a value that is less than their intrinsic value (moderately undervalued stocks). NOTE not grossly undervalued stocks.

The ‘Actual value’ of the share is found out by certain calculations and the figure you get is compared with the current market trading price. If the particular share is undervalued that signals a good investing opportunity. Stocks undervalued by Mr. Market are what would be referred to as Value Shares.

Value investing was made popular by Benjamin Graham who was later to become Warren Buffet's mentor. Benjamin introduced the concept of "Mr Market" in his book " The Intelligent Investor"

The concept of Mr. Market goes something like this:
Imagine you are partners in a private business with a man named Mr. Market. Each day, he comes to your office or home and offers to buy your interest in the company or sell you his "the choice is yours"

The catch is, Mr. Market is an emotional wreck. At times, he suffers from excessive highs and at others, suicidal lows. When he is on one of his highs, his offering price for the business is high as well, because everything in his world at the time is cheery. {BULL MARKET}

His outlook for the company is wonderful, so he is only willing to sell you his stake in the company at a premium. At other times, though his mood goes south and all he sees is a bleak future for the company. {BEAR} In fact, he is willing to sell you his part of the company for far less than it is worth. All the while, the underlying value of the company may not have changed just Mr. Market's mood. In all this you are free to ignore him if you don't like his price. The next day, he'll show up at your door with a new one.


Value Investors believe that there are two values to a stock. The current market price (which is influenced by market forces and investor sentiments) and the ‘actual’ or ‘fair price’ (called intrinsic value).
A stock may be undervalued because "Mr market" may overreact to good or/and bad news floating around causing movements (up or down) in prices that do not correspond with fundamentals of the company. It is in these movements that opportunities present themselves to buy.

A value investor does not just look at stocks that may appear "cheap" strong fundamentals have to be in place. These fundamentals include earnings, dividends, book value and cash flow. In most cases value investors carry out a SWOT analysis on a stock and individual companies and as such market gyrations and macro-level changes do not matter to them. The ‘margin of safety’ approach ensures that the downside risk to investment is limited. As long as the investor has a strong conviction of what the company is really worth, he should be able to look at "Mr. Market's" offers and reject or accept them.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Mukiri
#544 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:51:40 AM
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rryyzz wrote:
murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Why not start your own thread? Instead of riding on the wave of othersShame on you

This might dilute what Mwalimu shares and/or discourage him from continuing. Live in your own house.


Wazua is not about people but a gathering where participants share their knowledge. If Marty wanted this thread to be about him he'd have had his name on it just like @stockmaster and @yasserbigchair do. Otherwise let those who want to share do so freely.




And just to bring to @Mukiris' attention, the title of this thread is "The power of financial education" So anyone with ideas to educate wazuans is free to share.@Mukiri, uchokozi ni yaniniShame on you Shame on you Shame on you @Murchr, endelea do not be derailed.

@Mwalimu started off with construction, the power of chamas, he's talked about wealth of people... sasa nyinyi ni maneno ya stock-exchange. ISORAITSad My two cents is you open your own thread, specific to this NSE advice. This copy-paste, anyone can do.

Proverbs 19:21
Angelica _ann
#545 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:08:51 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
rryyzz wrote:
murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Why not start your own thread? Instead of riding on the wave of othersShame on you

This might dilute what Mwalimu shares and/or discourage him from continuing. Live in your own house.


Wazua is not about people but a gathering where participants share their knowledge. If Marty wanted this thread to be about him he'd have had his name on it just like @stockmaster and @yasserbigchair do. Otherwise let those who want to share do so freely.




And just to bring to @Mukiris' attention, the title of this thread is "The power of financial education" So anyone with ideas to educate wazuans is free to share.@Mukiri, uchokozi ni yaniniShame on you Shame on you Shame on you @Murchr, endelea do not be derailed.

@Mwalimu started off with construction, the power of chamas, he's talked about wealth of people... sasa nyinyi ni maneno ya stock-exchange. ISORAITSad My two cents is you open your own thread, specific to this NSE advice. This copy-paste, anyone can do.

@mukiri is right! @Mwalimu's were real life experiences in the local scenario sio vitabu and write-ups which anybody you is able to access wazua can google!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
bird_man
#546 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 9:47:50 AM
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Mukiri wrote:
rryyzz wrote:
murchr wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Why not start your own thread? Instead of riding on the wave of othersShame on you

This might dilute what Mwalimu shares and/or discourage him from continuing. Live in your own house.


Wazua is not about people but a gathering where participants share their knowledge. If Marty wanted this thread to be about him he'd have had his name on it just like @stockmaster and @yasserbigchair do. Otherwise let those who want to share do so freely.




And just to bring to @Mukiris' attention, the title of this thread is "The power of financial education" So anyone with ideas to educate wazuans is free to share.@Mukiri, uchokozi ni yaniniShame on you Shame on you Shame on you @Murchr, endelea do not be derailed.

@Mwalimu started off with construction, the power of chamas, he's talked about wealth of people... sasa nyinyi ni maneno ya stock-exchange. ISORAITSad My two cents is you open your own thread, specific to this NSE advice. This copy-paste, anyone can do.

I feel where @Mukiri is coming from.I always rush to open this thread when I see a posting only to find some copy paste stuff from other guys.Plus the stuff guys are pasting is so generic with no Kenyan context.It can hardly help anyone.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
mozenrat
#547 Posted : Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:29:17 AM
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I second and third you guyz.. I keep rushing to this thread just to find stuff that is not useful to me... start your own thread for the guys who are interested in your topic.. I'm sure there are many who are.
Marty
#548 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 3:16:47 PM
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Like father like daughter

It’s been a long break for Mwalimu. Well, he could not help it; he had to deliver this massive project. He only hopes that his students are all well and have indeed practised a lot of his teachings. That lot must have graduated by now so Mwalimu is hoping to find another set of students and together we shall learn. Going forward, Mwalimu will cover a myriad of topics in no specific order.

During my break, I had so many encounters and will share a few with you. Mwalimu is a proud father of 2 kids, a daughter and a son. One evening after a long and busy day, I happen to find my 5year old daughter neatly cutting and placing some small pieces of papers in a file. She looked at me and smiled, as if expecting me to reprimand her. When I asked her what she was doing, she quickly answered; “Baba, can’t you see am arranging my plots so that I sell them to my classmates?” Then she continued even before I answered; “Hata mimi niko na ploti zangu kama zile zako” It caught me by surprise but you can imagine how proud I was. This daughter of mine is very observant. She has seen me neatly file documents and she is well aware what daddy does for a living. Soon I will be going with her to the field and hopefully she will understand the ropes of real estate and take care of the small empire am attempting to build.

One things us Africans never do is teach our kids business. Take and keen look at Wahindis and how they are keen to integrate their kids into the running of their businesses. To them succession planning starts in the early developmental years of their kids. We ought to borrow a leaf from them.

This reminds me of a real life story I was given by some broker based in Kiganjo. And by the way they were bringing down buildings in Kiganjo yesterday. Interestingly, those of us who had an interest in Kiganjo were well aware that one side of Kiganjo always had issues; woe unto those who never carry out proper due diligence. Back to the story by the broker. This fellow in his mid-fifties is not that straight, you see he preys on absentee land owners. He even claims to be from the lineage of Cain (remember the fellow who killed his brother in the Bible). On one particular plot in a prime location near Thika he was interested in grabbing, he dropped a twenty feet container on the site and waited for a few days to see if anyone raised an eyebrow. After two months no one did, so he set up a shop inside the container and thereafter embarked on a mission to manufacture documents for the plot. And now he illegally owns the plot. While smiling from ear to ear, he proclaimed that the owner of the said plot is most likely six feet under and his next of kin are not aware that he ever owned the plot. So sad that you may own properties and the people who matter to you are not aware that you even own them. Once you become past tense trust Njuguna to be your heir in waiting.

Next I will tell you about the master welder who could not run a welding workshop.
When I admire the wonder of a sunset or the beauty
of the moon, my soul expands in worship of the Creator.
Kenyan Oracle
#549 Posted : Wednesday, June 04, 2014 6:28:56 PM
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Hi Mwalimu Marty,

Let me welcome you back for the new term. Your students are well. Looking forward to the topics for this term
You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
Mukiri
#550 Posted : Thursday, June 05, 2014 2:27:47 AM
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Welcome back. The Bible is rife with stories of mentorship. Its unfortunate that we ngothi nyeuthi, don't take it to heart.

Proverbs 19:21
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