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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,979
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Nice article there. Dymistifys some myths propagated here. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/3/2010 Posts: 79
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Best time to average down for those still holding this baby! KQ should be your long term stock...5 years down the line. Always buy cheap! Knowledge is contagious...Infect truth!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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I remember asking you guys what happened to Sabena... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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maka wrote:I remember asking you guys what happened to Sabena... C&P A HISTORIC AIRLINE IS GONE After an airline recession and the effects on the airline industry of the terrorist attacks on America on 11th September 2001 all airlines that flew across the Atlantic suffered badly. Further to this SABENA was owed 84 million by the Swiss airline Swissair. After Swissair stopped operations on 2nd October 2001 and refused to repay the money SABENA was forced to stop flying. They filed for legal protection against their creditors on 3rd October. This gave SABENA about three weeks to get further financial backing. With most of the main airlines in Europe fighting for passengers in the aftermath of the attack on the USA and on civil aviation SABENA failed to gain the required backing and went into liquidation on 7 November 2001.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,477 Location: nairobi
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looks decent
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/31/2011 Posts: 248
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Did the branding of the place. For a traveller, it's a must visit You lose money chasing women, but you never lose women chasing money - NAS
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Kenyan Oracle wrote:Did the branding of the place. For a traveller, it's a must visit Nice...  Such emails will be a thing of the past...btw they are many... "Thank you for your e mail below. I was still overseas when this came, and it has taken me a few days to catch up on my backlog. While writing, I should perhaps mention that I had to take a few flights while in the USA. These included 2 with American in First Class, 2 with commuter carriers, and one with Delta - your fellow Sky Team member - also in First Class. The American flights exceeded my expectations (which may not have been that high, after previous experiences with them). Their lounges at New York's La Guardia and Chicago airports were adequate, or even nice in the case of Chicago. The flight with Delta was fine while in the air, and the crew did try hard. But they did not offer a drinks service before taking off - the reason being that they were trying to board the economy class passengers quickly. Fair enough, but I would think this happens every day! And Delta do not have a lounge for their first class passengers at Denver airport. I realise that this is not a hub for them, and also that things are done differently in the USA, but Denver is a major commercial city, and I would have thought that First Class passengers travelling to New York's JFK airport would deserve the use of a lounge - mainly so that they could do some work before catching the plane. So, maybe it is not just Kenya Airways in the Skyteam alliance which has challenges with its service offering! This was at least as surprising as the two times I have caught KQ flights from Lusaka on the late night flight, only to find that there was no access to a business class lounge. " possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,064 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Kenyan Oracle wrote:Did the branding of the place. For a traveller, it's a must visit Nice... Such emails will be a thing of the past...btw they are many... "Thank you for your e mail below. I was still overseas when this came, and it has taken me a few days to catch up on my backlog. While writing, I should perhaps mention that I had to take a few flights while in the USA. These included 2 with American in First Class, 2 with commuter carriers, and one with Delta - your fellow Sky Team member - also in First Class. The American flights exceeded my expectations (which may not have been that high, after previous experiences with them). Their lounges at New York's La Guardia and Chicago airports were adequate, or even nice in the case of Chicago. The flight with Delta was fine while in the air, and the crew did try hard. But they did not offer a drinks service before taking off - the reason being that they were trying to board the economy class passengers quickly. Fair enough, but I would think this happens every day! And Delta do not have a lounge for their first class passengers at Denver airport. I realise that this is not a hub for them, and also that things are done differently in the USA, but Denver is a major commercial city, and I would have thought that First Class passengers travelling to New York's JFK airport would deserve the use of a lounge - mainly so that they could do some work before catching the plane. So, maybe it is not just Kenya Airways in the Skyteam alliance which has challenges with its service offering! This was at least as surprising as the two times I have caught KQ flights from Lusaka on the late night flight, only to find that there was no access to a business class lounge. " Most of us fly Cattle Class... And don't have Range Rovers to service at RMA but proboxes at Otieno's. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:looks decent  possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,064 Location: Nairobi
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And then KQ has to deal with these idiots http://www.the-star.co.k...d-kq-flight-over-lack-idGreedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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[quote=Gordon Gekko]Wish this could translate into the bottom line: http://m.jambonewspot.co...rlds-best-performing%2F[/quote] This PR will bring more business and make riches for current shareholders. @Obiero Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 897 Location: sky
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it seems bad news are not tired of visiting this counter!! the devil has camped here http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/MP-moves-Motion-to-slash-air-fares/-/539546/2500338/-/kcgwej/-/index.htmlThere are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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That would be good news it'll keep kq on toes thus better services at affordable prices and make money for shareholders. Monopoly like business with huge gvt control aren't beneficial to both consumer and shareholder. Again lowering prices doesn't mean losses ....... Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Boris Boyka wrote:That would be good news it'll keep kq on toes thus better services at affordable prices and make money for shareholders. Monopoly like business with huge gvt control aren't beneficial to both consumer and shareholder. Again lowering prices doesn't mean losses ....... Is he suggesting price controls or just allowing more players so that competition brings prices down?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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whiteowl wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:That would be good news it'll keep kq on toes thus better services at affordable prices and make money for shareholders. Monopoly like business with huge gvt control aren't beneficial to both consumer and shareholder. Again lowering prices doesn't mean losses ....... Is he suggesting price controls or just allowing more players so that competition brings prices down? Of course it's allowing more players ....competition.....better services.......affordable prices.....benefits Quote “Given that there is no regulatory body in place to supervise and ensure fair opportunity for competition by different airlines to ensure checks on excesses of the airlines; and that a number of airlines that applied for licences to operate domestic flights are yet to get approvals, this House resolves that the government puts in place measures to fully liberalise air fares…to make air travel affordable as a result of fair competition,” reads the Motion. Mr Mwinyi reckons that Kenya Airways enjoys monopoly in Kenya’s airspace, which it uses to determine fares at will. The MP argues that the monopoly enjoyed by KQ has made it difficult for travellers to enjoy reasonable prices." Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Kenyan Oracle wrote:Did the branding of the place. For a traveller, it's a must visit Nice... Such emails will be a thing of the past...btw they are many... "Thank you for your e mail below. I was still overseas when this came, and it has taken me a few days to catch up on my backlog. While writing, I should perhaps mention that I had to take a few flights while in the USA. These included 2 with American in First Class, 2 with commuter carriers, and one with Delta - your fellow Sky Team member - also in First Class. The American flights exceeded my expectations (which may not have been that high, after previous experiences with them). Their lounges at New York's La Guardia and Chicago airports were adequate, or even nice in the case of Chicago. The flight with Delta was fine while in the air, and the crew did try hard. But they did not offer a drinks service before taking off - the reason being that they were trying to board the economy class passengers quickly. Fair enough, but I would think this happens every day! And Delta do not have a lounge for their first class passengers at Denver airport. I realise that this is not a hub for them, and also that things are done differently in the USA, but Denver is a major commercial city, and I would have thought that First Class passengers travelling to New York's JFK airport would deserve the use of a lounge - mainly so that they could do some work before catching the plane. So, maybe it is not just Kenya Airways in the Skyteam alliance which has challenges with its service offering! This was at least as surprising as the two times I have caught KQ flights from Lusaka on the late night flight, only to find that there was no access to a business class lounge. " Most of us fly Cattle Class... And don't have Range Rovers to service at RMA but proboxes at Otieno's.  Kuwa mpole, i have actually flown business class with Lufthansa and Swissair and ..... Sorry the only time i flew business was due to overbooking and the guys could not find a seat for me on economy class. Hope @Maka does not work for the govt ama NGO and he is using his own money. But do i say At best, hope its not an invented story told by a friend or imagined by Maka.@Vituvingi take heart, at times wazua might bring you down kidogo when you read such posts, learnt once on facebook when a friend kept changing location i was like wow , this guy is travelling a lot till i learnt you can also change location from the comfort of your home and say you are in Dubai today and tomorrow you are in Bangkok !!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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kiash wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:maka wrote:Kenyan Oracle wrote:Did the branding of the place. For a traveller, it's a must visit Nice... Such emails will be a thing of the past...btw they are many... "Thank you for your e mail below. I was still overseas when this came, and it has taken me a few days to catch up on my backlog. While writing, I should perhaps mention that I had to take a few flights while in the USA. These included 2 with American in First Class, 2 with commuter carriers, and one with Delta - your fellow Sky Team member - also in First Class. The American flights exceeded my expectations (which may not have been that high, after previous experiences with them). Their lounges at New York's La Guardia and Chicago airports were adequate, or even nice in the case of Chicago. The flight with Delta was fine while in the air, and the crew did try hard. But they did not offer a drinks service before taking off - the reason being that they were trying to board the economy class passengers quickly. Fair enough, but I would think this happens every day! And Delta do not have a lounge for their first class passengers at Denver airport. I realise that this is not a hub for them, and also that things are done differently in the USA, but Denver is a major commercial city, and I would have thought that First Class passengers travelling to New York's JFK airport would deserve the use of a lounge - mainly so that they could do some work before catching the plane. So, maybe it is not just Kenya Airways in the Skyteam alliance which has challenges with its service offering! This was at least as surprising as the two times I have caught KQ flights from Lusaka on the late night flight, only to find that there was no access to a business class lounge. " Most of us fly Cattle Class... And don't have Range Rovers to service at RMA but proboxes at Otieno's. Kuwa mpole, i have actually flown business class with Lufthansa and Swissair and ..... Sorry the only time i flew business was due to overbooking and the guys could not find a seat for me on economy class. Hope @Maka does not work for the govt ama NGO and he is using his own money. But do i say At best, hope its not an invented story told by a friend or imagined by Maka.@Vituvingi take heart, at times wazua might bring you down kidogo when you read such posts, learnt once on facebook when a friend kept changing location i was like wow , this guy is travelling a lot till i learnt you can also change location from the comfort of your home and say you are in Dubai today and tomorrow you are in Bangkok !! Read what I wrote before posting the email... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,477 Location: nairobi
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KQ to trade at KES 11 within next 15 days
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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