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Ngong		#511 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:10:58 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest		guru267 wrote: Nandwa wrote: Does anybody here believe and trust that our security organs are on top of things! All I see are a bunch of headless chicken running around! Update us on the celebrations by your kind please!
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Richie rich		#512 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:27:09 PM
Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/29/2012 Posts: 79		Bigchick wrote: harrydre wrote: TAZ wrote: ecstacy wrote: washiku wrote: Lolest! wrote: freiks wrote: McReggae wrote: I hear the 5men shot were some random villagers harvesting honey! i also understand the same. they were harvesting honey with AK47 to chase the bees so that they get the maximum amount of pure honey Did you hear from Midiwo or Oburu? Huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!! I don't want to be left out on this one The God of the day is still God in the night.
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Ngong		#513 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:32:42 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2012 Posts: 1,461 Location: Ngong Forest		GOK AK47 issued gun cant shot innocent people unless they are non muslim!
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Impunity		#514 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 4:37:40 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada		McReggae wrote: sheri wrote: freiks wrote: McReggae wrote: I hear the 5men shot were some random villagers harvesting honey! i also understand the same. they were harvesting honey with AK47 to chase the bees so that they get the maximum amount of pure honey @freiks if it was not a serious matter i would have laughed. @mc is your source reliable. The gun is said to be a Kenyan Police Reservist gun by GOK.......mine wasn't a joke! The place is vast and hunting bee in such area requires one to be well armed to thwart any attack from the wild animal roaming about! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Mtu Biz		#515 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:40:17 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320		masukuma wrote: so... After Kenyans fought for them....RAO and UBAKs were doing this let's continue supporting inflammatory speeches from these people. after all if the director of some obscure government department is a man with whom i share a language and some rituals with - I benefit immensely simply because of this fact. My small brain identifies with him - my brain somehow convinces me that his gain is my gain. that his loss is my loss. when he drives a government vehicle and jumps traffic - I somehow benefit more that people who are in the same ma3 with me from another ethnic group. Conversely, I lose immensely if a person from else where is picked to handle this said department. I mean - who really knew/cared that there was a registrar of trade unions? I dont know why the majority think like this.. I think tribalism is purest form of upumbavu. Sola Scriptura
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freiks		#516 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 5:55:04 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734		Mtu Biz wrote: masukuma wrote: so... After Kenyans fought for them....RAO and UBAKs were doing this let's continue supporting inflammatory speeches from these people. after all if the director of some obscure government department is a man with whom i share a language and some rituals with - I benefit immensely simply because of this fact. My small brain identifies with him - my brain somehow convinces me that his gain is my gain. that his loss is my loss. when he drives a government vehicle and jumps traffic - I somehow benefit more that people who are in the same ma3 with me from another ethnic group. Conversely, I lose immensely if a person from else where is picked to handle this said department. I mean - who really knew/cared that there was a registrar of trade unions? Folks would rather worship their differences.. One was happy coz he got nusu mkate and the other was 'i would rather have juice since i cant take whitecup infront of cameras after giving away a nusu mkate' Life is an endless adventure
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masukuma		#517 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:32:33 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		let me ask my fellow kyuks... remember 2008 when Kibz was prezzi and people were baking mkate nusu? remember it was unthinkable for 'us' to allow Raila akuwe Prime minister? Watu walishinda Serena wakinegotiate... but that was overcome...Remember the 'big' issue of whether he would be PM via an act of parliament or by amending the constitution? it felt like it was quite a robbery to give him PM and more so to enshrine it in the constitution. But it happened and Kenya moved on - NOTHING CHANGED. the poor remained the same poor people. the rich were not vamiwad by the poor nor did 'njaruos' refuse to pay rent or all those things we had been told about - we had a large gava where the three presidential candidates were represented as PORK, VP and Waziri Mkuu... AND WE LIVE THROUGH IT. Perhaps we need the wisdom that comes from the past to show us that even if 'we' agree to 'national dialogue'... even if it results in a 'mkate nusu' or aliar apewe slice moja - NOTHING CONCRETE WILL CHANGE!! perhaps some egos will be bruised but no real change negative or otherwise will happen. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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symbols		#518 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 6:54:08 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552		masukuma wrote: let me ask my fellow kyuks... remember 2008 when Kibz was prezzi and people were baking mkate nusu? remember it was unthinkable for 'us' to allow Raila akuwe Prime minister? Watu walishinda Serena wakinegotiate... but that was overcome...Remember the 'big' issue of whether he would be PM via an act of parliament or by amending the constitution? it felt like it was quite a robbery to give him PM and more so to enshrine it in the constitution. But it happened and Kenya moved on - NOTHING CHANGED. the poor remained the same poor people. the rich were not vamiwad by the poor nor did 'njaruos' refuse to pay rent or all those things we had been told about - we had a large gava where the three presidential candidates were represented as PORK, VP and Waziri Mkuu... AND WE LIVE THROUGH IT. Perhaps we need the wisdom that comes from the past to show us that even if 'we' agree to 'national dialogue'... even if it results in a 'mkate nusu' or aliar apewe slice moja - NOTHING CONCRETE WILL CHANGE!! perhaps some egos will be bruised but no real change negative or otherwise will happen. Should we be disturbed by corruption or tribalism and their effects which 'we' are participants in?Well nothing concrete will change except maybe some bruised and some satisfied egos here and there.
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freiks		#519 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:02:39 PM
Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/8/2010 Posts: 1,734		masukuma wrote: let me ask my fellow kyuks... remember 2008 when Kibz was prezzi and people were baking mkate nusu? remember it was unthinkable for 'us' to allow Raila akuwe Prime minister? Watu walishinda Serena wakinegotiate... but that was overcome...Remember the 'big' issue of whether he would be PM via an act of parliament or by amending the constitution? it felt like it was quite a robbery to give him PM and more so to enshrine it in the constitution. But it happened and Kenya moved on - NOTHING CHANGED. the poor remained the same poor people. the rich were not vamiwad by the poor nor did 'njaruos' refuse to pay rent or all those things we had been told about - we had a large gava where the three presidential candidates were represented as PORK, VP and Waziri Mkuu... AND WE LIVE THROUGH IT. Perhaps we need the wisdom that comes from the past to show us that even if 'we' agree to 'national dialogue'... even if it results in a 'mkate nusu' or aliar apewe slice moja - NOTHING CONCRETE WILL CHANGE!! perhaps some egos will be bruised but no real change negative or otherwise will happen. Thats for sure bro/sis but why should it always happen that the same single person wants to reap where he should not, then there is no need for election we can as well just share the top seat with all the presidential candidates instead of always amending constitution to suit a single guy Life is an endless adventure
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masukuma		#520 Posted : Saturday, June 21, 2014 7:18:41 PM
Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi		symbols wrote: Should we be disturbed by corruption or tribalism and their effects which 'we' are participants in?Well nothing concrete will change except maybe some bruised and some satisfied egos here and there. let's talk about 'real' issues now....While corruption has real and tangible losses... what everyone keeps on calling 'tribalism' but is ideally ethnicity is only a perception. no one here really cares or knows who the registrar of operative societies is... coz we really don't care to know...we don't even know what the office does. however in the poisoned climate we are having if the current holder whoever he/she is gets fired and a person with a name like 'kariuki' or 'kamau' is hired - we start caring!! ethnicity is all about perception (ngongoz as we call them here) it's not real it's just perceived as an evil. freiks wrote: Thats for sure bro/sis but why should it always happen that the same single person wants to reap where he should not, then there is no need for election we can as well just share the top seat with all the presidential candidates instead of always amending constitution to suit a single guy Elections are just for us to move forward... move on! some people came and indoctrinated us on the sanctity of elections and the electoral process and we tend to hold it up in a manner to suggest that it's a sacred event... Elections are just a form of war that we engage in so that we don't fight a real one! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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