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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/27/2010 Posts: 951 Location: Nyumbani
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jaggernaut wrote:Sad. Can you imagine being cornered like this in some foreign land, cloth-less and shoeless, and the only thing that can save you from instant death is that knife? Na kaguu coz if you are not a kipchoge wewe minced meat.Go home "ke guoya kaiinukiire nyina "
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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kiash wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sad. Can you imagine being cornered like this in some foreign land, cloth-less and shoeless, and the only thing that can save you from instant death is that knife? Na kaguu coz if you are not a kipchoge wewe minced meat.Go home "ke guoya kaiinukiire nyina " How is it that many neglect the mind as a powerful weapon and tool that guarantees success if well used? The answer is because we have too much fear. And aren't skilled in tackling it.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Kenyans moved to secure campsComment at the end of the article Quote:Fridah • 2 hours ago
Africans are like women. They are their own enemies If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Cool Aid- Where did this wazuan disappear to?
Ok all SA to go back to their countries too.
Mtu akae kwa mama yake.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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kysse wrote: Cool Aid- Where did this wazuan disappear to?
Ok all SA to go back to their countries too.
Mtu akae kwa mama yake. He will come around during erections! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Mozambique,Malawi and Zimbabwe retaliating If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/13/2006 Posts: 58
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Interesting.... so what will they do with their "foreign" Mandela's widow Graca Machel?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Swenani wrote:Mozambique,Malawi and Zimbabwe retaliating http://www.enca.com/afri...inesses?hc_location=ufi
i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 11,935 Location: Nairobi
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The rest of Africa should unite and send a very strong message to those blood thirsty savages! I like the Nigeria stance. Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/7/2010 Posts: 728 Location: Wazuaville
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jaggernaut wrote:Sad. Can you imagine being cornered like this in some foreign land, cloth-less and shoeless, and the only thing that can save you from instant death is that knife? mwanaume ni kujichocha. he'd rather die on his feet. we should embrace this kind of resolve against shabaab. 4 guys should never ever tell 300 youth to lie on their tummies and they oblige "Money never sleeps"
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Njung'e wrote:The rest of Africa should unite and send a very strong message to those blood thirsty savages! I like the Nigeria stance. Gbam. SA needs to be taught a lesson. They seem to have lost identity.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/17/2007 Posts: 1,345
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C & P from Twitter;
Me naona Kenyans wakitag Zuma kwa tweets nacheka tu..huyu wenu akiguswa na foreign countries nyi ucatch feelings from here to pluto.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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The comments on that artilce...Africa is angry!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:ThokozaniZumaDladla 15 hours ago
In my view these attacks are not Xenophobia or Afrophobia because these two words have a common word "HATE". I don't believe and i refuse to believe that South Africans hate their black brothers and sisters, it's just a battle of resources. South Africans have been let down by government in terms of socio-economics and are sharing lot of citzenship benefits with foreign internationals. The borders are wide open and poorly monitored.
Attack on foreign internationals is a very wrong act, killing of any soul is just out of question it's an act that must be dealt with in harshest possible way.
After these attacks are over South African government need to go back to the drawing boarder and have laws and bills that will regulate these foreign issues in a more professional way. We must not shy away from the fact that South Africans exiled in other African countries but we must look at how all the accommodation happened.
South African were not;
1. Committing fraud in those countries.
2. On a raping spree.
3. Involved in arm robberies.
4. They never had business in townships.
5. Countrywide but in a camp.
6. Give citizenship, etc.
7. Promoting exploitation and cheap labour.
I'm raising these issues to show people that these are attacks are not about "HATING". South African government still feel indebted in those countries as a result they are lenient and turning a blind eye. South Africa has become a lawless country, as aresult attracting all sort of mischievous acts.
South African govern must;
1. Deploy more soldiers on boarders.
2. Have strict foreign policies.
3.Monitor the movement of foreign internationals and make follow up on their visas.
In 2008 when these attacks started in South Africa, i was in Ghana for a mining project, and i had a feeling that i don't wish on any foreigner.
Government must deal with the cause not the symptoms and foreign internationals must respect our country, it's laws and customs.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:Quote:ThokozaniZumaDladla 15 hours ago
In my view these attacks are not Xenophobia or Afrophobia because these two words have a common word "HATE". I don't believe and i refuse to believe that South Africans hate their black brothers and sisters, it's just a battle of resources. South Africans have been let down by government in terms of socio-economics and are sharing lot of citzenship benefits with foreign internationals. The borders are wide open and poorly monitored.
Attack on foreign internationals is a very wrong act, killing of any soul is just out of question it's an act that must be dealt with in harshest possible way.
After these attacks are over South African government need to go back to the drawing boarder and have laws and bills that will regulate these foreign issues in a more professional way. We must not shy away from the fact that South Africans exiled in other African countries but we must look at how all the accommodation happened.
South African were not;
1. Committing fraud in those countries.
2. On a raping spree.
3. Involved in arm robberies.
4. They never had business in townships.
5. Countrywide but in a camp.
6. Give citizenship, etc.
7. Promoting exploitation and cheap labour.
I'm raising these issues to show people that these are attacks are not about "HATING". South African government still feel indebted in those countries as a result they are lenient and turning a blind eye. South Africa has become a lawless country, as aresult attracting all sort of mischievous acts.
South African govern must;
1. Deploy more soldiers on boarders.
2. Have strict foreign policies.
3.Monitor the movement of foreign internationals and make follow up on their visas.
In 2008 when these attacks started in South Africa, i was in Ghana for a mining project, and i had a feeling that i don't wish on any foreigner.
Government must deal with the cause not the symptoms and foreign internationals must respect our country, it's laws and customs. So the problem isn't a phobia but is myopia. Have we thought about the countless souls that drown in the seas while wishing to go to Europe to work as slaves? Resources are social constructs; why can't we create some more? Why is it so easy for us to unite for revenge? Poor assimilated creatures- unAfrican, unwhite, unpeople, undead.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/17/2013 Posts: 4,693 Location: Earth
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Malawi and Congo bar SA from entering their country.
SA is still bears scars of apartheid,sadly they are taking out their frustrations on the weak minority,foreigners. Let them give us a break and stop lamenting,they have abundant resources to make it.
Lets see who turns up for big brother activities that cut across diff.industries and who shall vote for a SA.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2013 Posts: 640
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Money Whisperer wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sad. Can you imagine being cornered like this in some foreign land, cloth-less and shoeless, and the only thing that can save you from instant death is that knife? mwanaume ni kujichocha. he'd rather die on his feet. we should embrace this kind of resolve against shabaab. 4 guys should never ever tell 300 youth to lie on their tummies and they oblige I like him he is my kind of guy. Its all good.
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Swenani wrote:Mozambique,Malawi and Zimbabwe retaliating Kenyans wako chini ya maji Your income is directly related to your philosophy, Not the economy.-Jim Rohn
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Wainadi wrote:Money Whisperer wrote:jaggernaut wrote:Sad. Can you imagine being cornered like this in some foreign land, cloth-less and shoeless, and the only thing that can save you from instant death is that knife? mwanaume ni kujichocha. he'd rather die on his feet. we should embrace this kind of resolve against shabaab. 4 guys should never ever tell 300 youth to lie on their tummies and they oblige I like him he is my kind of guy. You seem bloodthirsty......A psychologist could help read your mentals... check Appointments thread! ...hope u don't emulate those michuki cleared. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Swenani wrote:D32 wrote:Muriel wrote:masukuma wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:harrydre wrote:D32 wrote:tycho wrote:'Africans shouldn't turn against Africans; they should turn against whites instead'.
'Slum dwellers are lazy'.
'Apartheid breeds violence'.
Some of our posts are also Xenophobic. It doesn't matter what century we are living in, we are still living in darkness. The first quote that you have quoted is xenophobic. You need to explain why you say the other two quotes are xenophobic, as you rephrased them from my post, which is just saying what is actually going on in the ground. The action "Violence", the reason "Jealousy". "If you notice, the attacks are mainly in the slum areas. The local folk are lazy, and they get jealous when the hard working foreigners are making it. Apartheid instilled the culture of violence.". Listen to a pro "foreigners must go home" explain the reasons. these apes need a head transplant. [youtube]https://youtu.be/OHSDGktYCAI[/youtube] South Africans who are asking foreigners to leave because of unemployment and crime needs a head transplant but a Kenyan asking somali's to leave because of increased terrorism is patriotic!!!! This world is very unfair! Haaaaa!  waulize! If taking away one's employment opportunities is a form of killing them. Or economic jihad. Or 'punishment' for having some 'equipment' and 'personnel' in one's country of origin. I don't know. @Mureil "Economic Jihad" LOL! Valid points you got there. @Sewani, Tycho & Masukuma The difference between the two scenarios is like day and night. You cannot put the two scenarios at par. Will dwell on theses keywords. "Foreigners", "Unemployment", "Crime" and "Terrorism". In S.A, the term "foreigners" refers to black African migrants (e.g. From Zimbabwe, Angola, Eritrea, Nigeria, Somalia, Sudan etc...) they are being killed and are wanted out of the country, while Kenya is not chasing nor killing African migrants. There are refugees in Kenya from several countries. Kenya wants Somali refugee camps to be relocated, for the reason that the gov gave. The refugees still get fed and such, not abandoned. Most of these foreigners in S.A are not employed, but are self-employed. S.A. locals claiming that foreigners are taking jobs is a huge lie. S.A locals are unemployed because they have not decided to self-employ themselves, but are blaming foreigners. In all countries, crime gets committed by natives as well as migrants. In S.A locals want foreigners (African Migrants) to leave the country because of crime, while in Kenya, that's not the case. There are criminals in Kenya from other nations, yet Kenya is not expelling migrants from different nations because of crime. Kenya wanting the refugee camp relocated is but dealing with a specific terrorist gateway. Terrorists whom I need not explain what they have done, nor what they have vowed to do. How can you tell the Gov to up security, then when it attempts to, you are telling the gov not to? You need to explain yourselves. Hope that you can now see that you cannot put the two scenarios at par. S.A. Locals need a brain transplant. The narrative is the same D32...How is chasing foreigners away because of isolated cases of crime committed by foreigners different from closing a refugee camp because of a few somali's involved in terrorism? In any case,most of the terrorist activities which have happened here in kenya have been committed by Kenyans including non somalis who have never stepped in a refugee camp. When you have a flat Tyre you do not change the arm but fix or change the flat tyre Sewani, I repeat, the two are very different scenarios that cannot be compared. S.A locals are using excuses of unemployment and crime, unemployment being their biggest "apparent" cause of frustration that they use to expel and kill, yet the real reason is jealousy - which they all silently know, but no one is willing to admit to. They can't stand seeing foreigners making it while they themselves are poor. S.A locals are persecuting, hiding behind a mask of excuses, blaming economic (unemployment) and security (crime) reasons on the little migrant population that make up 4% of the total population, yet S.A's unemployment rate is at 25%. Where's the logic? The real reason is jealousy- Which is a psychological problem (as harrydre sarcastically said that they need a head transplant). Reminder, the word is "relocating" the camp, not as you say "closing" the camp. Shabab can easily masquerade as refugees to radicalize other refugees, or to sneak in the country for things such as logistics or for more radicalization, not necessarily be the ones that carry out the attack, as we have had radicalized Kenyans who perhaps have never been in a refuge camp carry out attacks. In Kenya, the problem is matters national security, terrorism, where hundreds of Kenyans have lost their lives, while terrorists have vowed for more attacks, while in S.A, it's psychological problem with the local population. The two scenarios cannot be compared. They tried to bury us, they didn't know we were seeds.
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