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Women,Submit to your husbands..Period!!
Kasheshi
#41 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 2:58:00 PM
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@xtina,i agree. The concept of submission in today's age has become more challenging as women's earning power continues to increase. Given that a man expects to be higher than the woman in every respect then he also expects it where finances are concerned. When the wife earns more than him,he feels threatened and any issue is blown out of proportion; ' you're not a submissive wife!' he'll say ' or is it because you earn more than i do?' he'll add. Some men will demand that their wives submit they're entire salary to them so that they can feel dominant or in control

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caesar
#42 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:20:00 PM
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Juliani

Just be nice to your woman,love and care for her. Be logical and open minded you will have a nicer marriage.

If you are reading Ephesians to her you probably already have marital problems. Back then Men used to rule,This days they are diplomatic.

I would rather learn from Solomon,or David,Abraham,or Joseph the Father of Jesus. I guess Paul,and many of the other Disciples were not Married.
wote
#43 Posted : Thursday, May 28, 2009 3:26:00 PM
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@Kasheshi my dearest,The marriage institution is priceless and the rules are clear'' so do not attach some commercial value on it.

Hey'' did ever hear of a lady called Thatcher? well she was the Prime -Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. One day Dennis who happened to be her hubby called while she was chairing a cabinet meeting and below is how the conversation went.

''Honey'' what time is diner? am starving'' she had to end the meeting and attend to Dennis's immediate needs. That is how priceless this institution should be. Some things,the rules do not change either with time or technology and marriage is one of them,the others being diplomancy and prostitution.


wote
mukiha
#44 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 6:23:00 AM
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Rules for Christian households:
Colossians CAP 3
18Wives,submit to your husbands,as is fitting in the Lord.
19Husbands,love your wives and do not be harsh with them.

20Children,obey your parents in everything,for this pleases the Lord.

21Fathers,do not embitter your children,or they will become discouraged.


22Slaves,obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it,not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor,but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.


Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow)
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Lyanne
#45 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 7:50:00 AM
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@ Xtina,i hope you have that book ( Happy Valley) im dying to lay hands on it. Been to all bookshops and cant find it.

This morning Maina Kageni was still at it,a woman called in and and lay her heart out and confessed to having bought her hubby a car,practically built the house they live in and the leech went ahead and confessed to her that he laid the maid and screwed her niece. She is still wondering what to do !

I honestly think its the woman with a problem,we are put under a york in the name of 'submission'.


The Hedonist
xtina
#46 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 7:56:00 AM
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@kasheshi
The issue of finance is very touchy. I remember one mature SKerian said his Msc-educated wife gives him her salary so that he can give her an allowance........i know other couples in this kind of arrangement where the couple have one account and the man makes the financial decisions......it's popular among old couples .....other couples prefer keeping separate finances and the man takes care of rent and school fees while the lady takes care of house bills and shopping..now this is popular in the younger couples.....

In this day and age where 50% of married couples are either getting HIV/AIDS or divorced,i believe it's important for each patner to protect him/herself...protect what you have before u get married...

If that boy don't love you by now,then he never will-Ciara
adept
#47 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 8:25:00 AM
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@mukiha (once again!) provided a pretty sober answer even for people who may not necessarily believe in the bible. Everyone plays their part and you will have no problem. It is not as complex as we sometimes paint it to be.

In a nutshell,a man must be sensitive to her needs esp. emotional while the woman should be considerate of the guy's ego. It's as simple as that for me. Either party doesn't do that and there will be chaos. Humanity has greatly advanced over the millenia but there are certain innate xtics of men and women that do not change.

However,both must cut to the chase and agree on certain difficult but necessary rules b4 the big leap esp. nowadays.

That said,you cannot word-for-word replicate the dynamics of one relationship directly onto another...people are different and this has to be taken into consideration.
mukiha
#48 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 12:03:00 PM
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Pastor J B Masinde once drew a very clear distinction between a contract and a covenant. According to him:

A Contract is entered between people who DO NOT trust one another. They need it to protect their interests

A Covenant is entered between people who DO trust one another. Each promises to play their part even if the other party does not.

A marriage is NOT a contract; it is a covenant.

I will love my wife for all my life even if she does not submit to me. My love for her is unconditional.

@xtina; that was me.

Behind the gardens...Behind the wall...Under the tree (Including: Red...Dark Blue...Yellow)
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Ray
#49 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 12:46:00 PM
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@ Mukiha

Please correct your second sentence. I'm sure it should read a Covenant for those who do trust each other.
bwenyenye
#50 Posted : Friday, May 29, 2009 1:42:00 PM
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Good people,

It appears to me that the ones not in marriage seem to 'Know' more about what they have no experience. The married say marriage is good,the unmarried say it is bad. I find this amazing. But anyway I love SK... we know everything!!! Let's leave this ujuaji to talkshow hosts like Mk and the MPs..

p.s marriage is good. very good.

have a great weekend.


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