Thanks for clarifying. I had another smart reposite all set to go but I see Ngalaka beat me to it (damn!):

Anyway, here it is: What did this change?

Did the voting patterns change? The outcome that we expected (not hoped for)? If CA had flipped a die-hard NASA voting block like Coast, Western or Nyanza into Jubilees column, beyond anything that could have been achieved by good old fashioned rigging for instance, I would begin to believe their hype.

Despite all this, I could even be charitable were it not for a pattern I have observed. Over the past 20 years I have noticed that a Western company or organisation has claimed credit for the results of almost every election ever held in a non developed country. They did it for Russia, before Putin showed them the door, recently for Gambia, Liberia...are you surprised that Kenya has made it into their self glorification column?

lesson: don't bring a knife to a gunfight!

I actually believe Jubilee were sold fake goods. But that seems par for the political crowd. NASA paid millions to some Canadian and Ghanian cons who claimed they could somehow 'protect the vote.' I laughed later when my Ghanian friend told me there was never anything like protecting the vote in Ghana, it was simply a catchy election slogan that happened to arrive at the same time as the people were getting fed up with the lot in power anyway.

Trying to convince me that CA was the factor that won the election for Jubilee is a major stretch, even if we were somehow to ignore just how hard NASA worked to beat themselves; ie, their sheer incompetence all round; the decision to front a previously rejected candidate; the inept 'non-campaign' that followed or even the foolish decision to boycott an election in the hope that somehow this would...what? Shame their opponents into throwing in the towel?

I have never understood that one

If this conversation was about 2013, I could give you the benefit of the doubt. But NASA actually started losing the 2017 election way back in 2015/16 if not before - remember when Jubilee consolidated and beat them again at registering voters? CA was not in the picture then were they?

Yeah...I think we underestimate CA's profit motive. They seem to be drumming up business in that video.

HOWEVER: If as @Peter reborn up there points out that the people who worked with CA had post-election positions in government and are rolling out the Western agenda as intended, then CA had an even worse effect than just the election.

My Dad used to say that when the British left in the 60's the installed Africans (PC's, DC's, DO'S PS's etc) to continue colonialism...Maybe history is repeating itself?

@alma if you have never received threats or been followed by cops then your opinion on wazua is among the 100%. Some few of us think for our selves, Jesus said it will be hard to have your own values, to win yourself, your spirit, in the last days, utashinda na ma police and NIS in your case, even roughed up in your premises, sio mchezo vile watu wengi wanifikiri kuwa na opinion ni rahisi, why did moi used to send cops to listen to peoples conversations in dingy barts in corner? Chunga sana, it's way risky than you think, na hakuna pesa vile unafikiria.