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What they mean by: ‘there shall be no election’
hardwood
#81 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 12:53:34 PM
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washiku wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
washiku wrote:
I foresee a challenge. Its election time. NASA followers on the streets. Chanting and throwing stones. Will Jubilee supporters really risk to go out just in the name of voting?



I foresee a complete security lock down of the country from 25th October. Nobody will dare throw a stone on 26th .


NASWA have said that they will be having demos daily culminating with the mother of all demos on 26/10.


Easy!!.....The President should declare a state of emergency from 23rd to 30th with shoot to kill orders for anyone defying the order. Meanwhile, someone should go to SCORK and pray that we recount the 8/8 presidential votes just in case nasa makes it impossible to vote in Luo Nyanza on 26th.


So how would voting happen in a state of emergency? With shoot to kill orders in place, who will dare get out of their house to go vote?


Voters should also be asked to arm themselves to defend themselves against anyone out to prevent them from exercising their sovereign right on 26th.
hardwood
#82 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 12:58:37 PM
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simonkabz
#83 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 1:01:50 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Njung'e wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
washiku wrote:
I foresee a challenge. Its election time. NASA followers on the streets. Chanting and throwing stones. Will Jubilee supporters really risk to go out just in the name of voting?



I foresee a complete security lock down of the country from 25th October. Nobody will dare throw a stone on 26th .


NASWA have said that they will be having demos daily culminating with the mother of all demos on 26/10.


Easy!!.....The President should declare a state of emergency from 23rd to 30th with shoot to kill orders for anyone defying the order. Meanwhile, someone should go to SCORK and pray that we recount the 8/8 presidential votes just in case nasa makes it impossible to vote in Luo Nyanza on 26th.


The Election Laws (Amendment) Bill, 2016, 55B provide for postponement of elections in a constituency, county or ward there is reason to believe that a serious breach of peace is likely to occur if the election is held on that date.

It further states in part(3) that... "(Notwithstanding the provisions of this section, the Commission may, if satisfied that the result of the elections will not be affected by voting in the area in respect of which substituted dates have been appointed, direct that a return of the elections be made"


Orengo knew what he was talking about yesterday. Elections for Nyanza might be held later if the turn out in Jubilee strongholds will not be high enough to render the Luo Nyanza votes irrelevant.


Thank you for clarifying. Babu Riek will be contained.
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hardwood
#84 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 1:14:09 PM
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If raila has withdrawn, why is he bothered by the 26th election? Pilipili usio ila yakuwashiani?
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#85 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 1:17:42 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
hardwood wrote:
kaka2za wrote:
washiku wrote:
I foresee a challenge. Its election time. NASA followers on the streets. Chanting and throwing stones. Will Jubilee supporters really risk to go out just in the name of voting?



I foresee a complete security lock down of the country from 25th October. Nobody will dare throw a stone on 26th .


NASWA have said that they will be having demos daily culminating with the mother of all demos on 26/10.


Easy!!.....The President should declare a state of emergency from 23rd to 30th with shoot to kill orders for anyone defying the order. Meanwhile, someone should go to SCORK and pray that we recount the 8/8 presidential votes just in case nasa makes it impossible to vote in Luo Nyanza on 26th.


We won't need to come to that. Election papers are guarded like currency. If one attempts anything, you don't need the president to give any orders for the police to deal with the criminals.

BBI will solve it
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limanika
#86 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 2:26:47 PM
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hardwood wrote:
If raila has withdrawn, why is he bothered by the 26th election? Pilipili usio ila yakuwashiani?

The demos don't make sense, that's why turn out is dwidling by the day. like in Nairobi, a city of 4m+, only handful of like 20-30 guys came out today. Even the guys who are coming out to demonstrate know it doesn't make sense, they only come out coz baba said so. Imagine they're still saying iebc officials should resign yet election is in 10 days! Is it possible to recruit new officials to preside? Is common sense common?
hardwood
#87 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 4:50:24 PM
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#88 Posted : Monday, October 16, 2017 5:06:12 PM
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hardwood wrote:



No it was not on principled grounds.In his senile head he believes he is equal to Uhuru and therefore must oppose or do what UK is doing.

He thought he was pulling a fast one but it has backfired on him.The village goon in him can only resort to violence.What a shame.
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hardwood
#89 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 3:43:48 PM
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Mobs disrupt IEBC training in Kisumu, Migori and Homa Bay

http://www.nation.co.ke/...143108-qk2o07/index.html
hardwood
#90 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:05:23 PM
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'Raila said no election': Supporters storm IEBC training in Migori, Siaya

https://www.the-star.co....in-migori-siaya_c1654306
hardwood
#91 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:11:40 PM
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Ni kubaya....sign of things to come. #Secession

The Star wrote:
In Siaya county, IEBC trainees were smoked out of training in Bondo, Gem, Ugunja and Alego Usonga by irate youths who said they have gone against Raila Odinga's wish.

Bondo returning officer John Matekwa said they were forced to push the training indefinitely.

"POs and the DPOs had just reported for the training when a group of rowdy youths, armed with machetes and other crude weapons, came for them."

Matekwa said some police officers sustained minor injuries and that the crowd smashed windows.

Migori police were forced to fire several shots in the air on Tuesday to disperse a crowd that tried to chase IEBC officials from an elections training.

A group chanting "No Reforms! No Election" stormed Lion Simba Hotel in Migori town and started throwing stones at the facility.

Some of the protesters tried scaling walls around the establishment before officers arrived and fired live bullets. Police were called by the officials and managers of the hotel.
Njung'e
#92 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:31:39 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Ni kubaya....ssign of things to come. #Secession

The Star wrote:
In Siaya county, IEBC trainees were smoked out of training in Bondo, Gem, Ugunja and Alego Usonga by irate youths who said they have gone against Raila Odinga's wish.

Bondo returning officer John Matekwa said they were forced to push the training indefinitely.

"POs and the DPOs had just reported for the training when a group of rowdy youths, armed with machetes and other crude weapons, came for them."

Matekwa said some police officers sustained minor injuries and that the crowd smashed windows.

Migori police were forced to fire several shots in the air on Tuesday to disperse a crowd that tried to chase IEBC officials from an elections training.

A group chanting "No Reforms! No Election" stormed Lion Simba Hotel in Migori town and started throwing stones at the facility.

Some of the protesters tried scaling walls around the establishment before officers arrived and fired live bullets. Police were called by the officials and managers of the hotel.


IEBC should abandon any efforts to carry out elections in Luo Nyanza....They will spare a life/lives. If anything, the elections act allows them to.
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#93 Posted : Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:31:28 PM
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Elections will be held on the 26th if baba supporters don't vote for him, shauri the rest of Kenya will move on
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#94 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:24:03 PM
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Now raila asks Chebukati to postpone elections reason being....wait for it....HOSTILITY!. Did someone say raila's plan is to cause chaos so that not to have an election??

LINK
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#95 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:31:55 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Now raila asks Chebukati to postpone elections reason being....wait for it....HOSTILITY!. Did someone say raila's plan is to cause chaos so that not to have an election??

LINK


When do the 60 days ordered by the SC lapse?
Wakanyugi
#96 Posted : Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:41:44 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
Now raila asks Chebukati to postpone elections reason being....wait for it....HOSTILITY!. Did someone say raila's plan is to cause chaos so that not to have an election??

LINK


People need to listen to RAO between the lines. He knows he has miscalculated big time and he is asking to be saved from himself. And yet the duo keep squeezing.

I think Uhuru should meet with him privately and quietly offer to pay all the debts that he has incurred during this punishing political season and to guarantee him a comfortable retirement.

Alternatively we could open a paybill account to changa for Baba's retirement - but then the embarrassment....
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harrydre
#97 Posted : Friday, October 20, 2017 1:27:05 AM
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Njung'e wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Ni kubaya....ssign of things to come. #Secession

The Star wrote:
In Siaya county, IEBC trainees were smoked out of training in Bondo, Gem, Ugunja and Alego Usonga by irate youths who said they have gone against Raila Odinga's wish.

Bondo returning officer John Matekwa said they were forced to push the training indefinitely.

"POs and the DPOs had just reported for the training when a group of rowdy youths, armed with machetes and other crude weapons, came for them."

Matekwa said some police officers sustained minor injuries and that the crowd smashed windows.

Migori police were forced to fire several shots in the air on Tuesday to disperse a crowd that tried to chase IEBC officials from an elections training.

A group chanting "No Reforms! No Election" stormed Lion Simba Hotel in Migori town and started throwing stones at the facility.

Some of the protesters tried scaling walls around the establishment before officers arrived and fired live bullets. Police were called by the officials and managers of the hotel.


IEBC should abandon any efforts to carry out elections in Luo Nyanza....They will spare a life/lives. If anything, the elections act allows them to.


Do you have the section on the act? Pls share.
i.am.back!!!!
Tokyo
#98 Posted : Friday, October 20, 2017 4:36:49 AM
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The IEBC has a legal right to postpone elections in a particular region/area if it might interfere with peace. I foresee Luo Nyanza and Kibera among other few polling stations postponing. Uhuru will be declared legally elected. NASA will appeal to the Supreme Court which will throw out the case with costs as the remaining votes will not affect the final figures.
As always, I maintain voting in Africa must be restricted
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limanika
#99 Posted : Friday, October 20, 2017 8:15:40 AM
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Tokyo wrote:
The IEBC has a legal right to postpone elections in a particular region/area if it might interfere with peace. I foresee Luo Nyanza and Kibera among other few polling stations postponing. Uhuru will be declared legally elected. NASA will appeal to the Supreme Court which will throw out the case with costs as the remaining votes will not affect the final figures.
As always, I maintain voting in Africa must be restricted

For naswa to cause massive chaos over wide regions would require a lot of planning, mobilisation and funding over a period of time. They are unable to do this coz it is illegal and we have some cases in court where some have been charged, fear of visa bans, arrests, icc, etc So methinks elections will go on throughout the country on 26th. However you can't rule out localised problems in few selected areas, and elections can be postponed in such. Raila has goofed big time this time.
kaka2za
#100 Posted : Friday, October 20, 2017 8:41:26 AM
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Wait for a big annoucement from RAO next week!
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