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Supreme Court nullifies presidential election
sitaki.kujulikana
#81 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 6:27:19 PM
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we wait for the detailed ruling, but if the irregularities and illegalities can easily be replicated then we are in big trouble since there is a risk of a never ending cycle.
gk
#82 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:06:37 PM
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Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?
washiku
#83 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:14:26 PM
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SEPTEMBER 1, 2017
NASA STATEMENT ON SUPREME COURT RULING
A VICTORY FOR KENYA:
Two weeks ago, we moved to the Supreme Court to challenge the declaration of Mr. Uhuru Kenyatta as the winner of the August 8 presidential elections.
We moved to the Supreme Court to lay before the world what we believed was compelling evidence of the making of a computer-generated leadership.
Now the Supreme Court of Kenya has spoken. This decision is precedent setting. It will reverberate across Kenya, the African continent and the rest of the world through the generations. Never again will impunity reign in Kenya. It is now clear that no one in Kenya is above the law.
A new Kenya has been born. And Kenya is once again leading Africa, as it so often does with its vibrant democracy (except at election time) and enterprise.

Chief Justice David Maraga will always be remembered for setting this exceptional example for all of Africa. Our judiciary now knows that they have the power, in law and with courage, to challenge the mighty powers too many African presidents wield against the will of their people.

We thank the Supreme Court for standing up for the truth and in the process lifting the image and profile of our nation with regard to the rule of law and judicial autonomy.

We also honor the two judges who dissented. We honor them for their courage in standing up for their opinion, which we respect. They have made our justice system stronger and steadied our march towards electoral democracy.
We salute our able legal team. We particularly pay tribute to the young boys and girls who spent countless hours poring over documents and who in the end established the IEBC fraud.
We remain grateful to all those who supported the cause for which we have fought.
With this courageous verdict we put on trial the international observers who moved fast to sanitize fraud. Their role must be re-examined, as it is highly politicized and currently puts status quo and "stability" ahead of credible elections. It is credible elections alone which will give us peace and stability.

Of course it wasn’t always like this. The US strongly supported Kenyans’ push for multiparty politics although it backtracked and quickly congratulated Mwai Kibaki on his “victory” in 2007. But thanks to the EU observers at that time, and some superlative reporting by international media, it quickly shifted course and then US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and British Cabinet Minister Lord Mark Malloch Brown travelled to Nairobi to promote the Kofi Annan led negotiation process. The US, UK EU then strongly supported the passage of the rights-oriented new Constitution. But after Uhuru Kenyatta and William Ruto election, our partners settled for the status quo.

The court's proceedings in this case revealed the utter rot at the heart of our electoral commission and electoral process; it was blatant and third time in a row.

But it revealed the rot at the heart of the Kenya state as well. There is total impunity. Extra judicial killings continue. Corruption has reached stratospheric proportions. And there is little room for concern with the lot of the poor for whom life gets harder year after year.

What has transpired today is but the first step in ensuring electoral justice in Kenya. There are more fundamental decisions to be made in the days ahead; including who conducts the next elections.
It is now clear that the entire edifice of IEBC is rotten. Clear evidence shows that the Commission was taken over by criminals who ran the General Elections using the technology system and resulted in a computer generated leadership for the people. It is now also clear that the CEO Ezra Chiloba, Directors Immaculate Kassait, Commissioner in charge of ICT Prof. Abdi Yakub Guliye, head of Legal affairs Praxidis Tororey, Ms Betty Nyabuto of Operations and John Muhati of IT were co- conspirators with in these criminal schemes. They must face criminal prosecution. We urge these IEBC officials who have perpetrated a monumental crime against the people to do the right thin
g and resign.
It remains clear to us that the real election results were never shared with the people of Kenya despite years of preparations for this election and billions spent on it. Somebody must take responsibility.
We will continue demanding that the servers that the IEBC refused to open despite court orders be opened. The truth is a critical component of justice. Kenyans must know the truth of what transpired in this election and that truth is contained in the servers that IEBC is hanging on to. The ruling today shows that when there is justice, peace prevails. Our country still needs a cure for electoral impunity.
As we said about a week ago, the Supreme Court ruling, even as we welcome it, will not bring to justice those who plotted and executed the theft of votes.
It will not bring to justice those who murdered Chris Musando in order to steal votes. It will not hold to account those who sought to cow us into submission by unleashing terror in Mathare, Kibera and Kisumu.
Stealing of elections in Kenya is a manifestation of the culture of political impunity, an impunity that the IEBC willingly and gladly participated in. The perpetrators of 2017 electoral theft were emboldened by the fact that those who stole the 2013 elections have gone unpunished.
As we said earlier, we saw some of them at the Bomas of Kenya; experts in electoral fraud supervising their second electoral fraud which has now been brought to naught. A cure has to be found.
As a country, we urgently need to discuss how we will conduct the upcoming elections. As IEBC itself has said, many changes must be made in the Commission before we hold another election. But this cannot be an assignment to be carried out by the Commission. Political parties and stakeholders must come together and agree on these changes. We call upon parliament to adopt a bipartisan spirit in order to expedite reforms that may be required. It is our hope that this development can help us find common ground going forward.
God Bless Kenya
Lolest!
#84 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:16:16 PM
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gk wrote:
Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?

Is it a coincidence that the court followed 2 orders from NASA?

1. Each judge must present their ruling separately

2. We don't want 1 line ruling

Remember Justice Mwilu saying 'you want a detailed ruling' or something of that sort?
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
washiku
#85 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:20:14 PM
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Before reading the full ruling, it may be premature to cast aspersions on this judgement. Either way, nothing will change. For now, focus should be how to win.
alma1
#86 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:30:30 PM
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Other than the usual sycophants on wazua who are hemorrhaging Raila threads today, the ruling was obvious to all and sundry.

Even Njoki Ndungu, God help her, had a problem explaining her ruling. "the irregularities were not..." say that again.

There was a time on this forum where I asked people if they really want Maraga in the Supreme court. I was told off by all and sundry. You just don't understand conservatives. They follow the law and procedure and don't deviate.

IEBC messed up big time. And I mean big time.

This case ended when in their written affidavit, the IEBC said that those numbers that we saw on Citizen were "statistics". What the hell are statistics?

But of course for the muthamaki kingdom, they won. By 1.4 million.

So the court was just asking. How can we confirm that? How do we prove that even 1 vote went to Raila or one to Uhuru.

The IEBC couldn't even say what happened to the voting material if I decided to vote only 1 candidate. They did not know.

You know, you have to be a very stupid person to believe that this election was conducted with the seriousness it deserves.

There are winners here and I shall name them

1. Ngapat and co..They now have a job for another 60 days to write nonsense on the internet
2. Ahmednassir. He hasn't been paid yet, so he's going to tweet nonsense until he get's his paycheck
3. The media - They can continue selling their useless analysts.

This case was lost before it even started.

Process matters not numbers. In case you don't believe it or want to start another thread please understand something.

Today as you walk around Kenya understand that the law in Kenya says, the process in which you were born is more important than the number of triplets you have.

For Muthamaki kingdom, you now sound like Raila complaining 24 hours a day. Ati Maraga is Raila's cousin in law. Ati tribes ati what...

You say you won with 1.4 million votes. Go vote you shall win again.

But you have been warned by Maraga. The next time a Returning Officer chases agents from a polling station, the next time a CS goes out campaigning, the next time IEBC can't even send legit forms to its own headquarters, you shall be back to square one.

Kenyans won. Those that care about doing the right thing at all times won.

Now let me vacate, to let the usual sycophants talk to themselves on wazua.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

murchr
#87 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:32:53 PM
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Alma we will win this mpende msipende
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#88 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 7:41:04 PM
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murchr wrote:
Alma we will win this mpende msipende


Murchr don't be a dummy like the rest of them.

The court did not say Uhuru lost. It did not say Raila won. In fact, it did not care who won or lost.

That was the problem with the Jubilee lawyers. How you even pay those fellows is a thesis on its own. Nasa's case was all about process, process, process. Jubilee lawyers were so busy reading Nasa tweets they forgot to read the petition itself.

The petition said nothing about numbers. Nothing about hacking. Nothing...Yet, the dumb Jubilee lawyers were talking about observers, numbers etc. Yaani, answering questions they were not asked. Stupid!

It would have been mute if only IEBC lawyers could explain how Uhuru's certificate numbers read different from Chebukati's form 34C.

I mean some of these things are childish and pedestrian mistakes. No court on this earth would have allowed it.

Don't hate Raila. In fact, go to IEBC and find out if those people are even qualified to do their jobs. Terrible, terrible terrible.

I mean some of the times when I would here their lawyers say the word statistics, I would squirm like a malnourished lizard.

IEBC had no idea where their own papers were. Had no idea their own PO's had signed or not signed. In fact, right now I know they don't know the exact number of people who voted.

That was the case.

Not who won.

If they don't get that in their heads. We shall repeat this electing 20 times until they get it right.

If I were Uhuru. Instead of getting high on TV, I would sue IEBC for losing the election for him. Not attacking the same court that made him president 5 years ago.

Tantrums won't help anyone. I know they sound cool in Uthamaki kingdom. But for the rest of us, we want the right process to be followed. PERIOD!!!

That is the law in Kenya. Mpende, Msipende. Ama mhame muende Somalia.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

hamburglar
#89 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:00:14 PM
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This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.

The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed to have happened had NASA lost.

The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.

It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters.
alma1
#90 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:06:01 PM
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hamburglar wrote:
This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.

The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed had NASA lost.

The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.

It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters.


Hambuglar very soon. In not more than 5 years. There shall be a case in the supreme court about your right to go around saying there's no God.

Trust me. On that day, you shall be here just like the Jubilee fellas hating on Maraga.

Trust me. It is coming. Don't take this case as lightly as my lecturer Lumumba was doing with big words that meant nothing. Only people who did not go to school were amazed by Lumumbas presentation.

In fact, I promise you, that this ruling shall have an impact on every aspect of how you live in Kenya and Africa in general.

Wait for their written judgements. You shall go slow on your Lumumbaism. If Maraga says the law must be interpreted as it reads, it will mean that you and your aetheism shall be illegal.

The law is an ass.

I called out Maraga here and even Jubilee people on this forum said I was being too harsh.

The reason Sabina Joy is popular is because Kenyans love quickies. They only see what is infront of them. Right now, they only see that Uhuru lost or Raila won. Or vice versa.

Ona mbele. We have now one of the most conservative courts in the world. They interpret the law as it is written. Then you go vote for that funny woman from Kiambu who can't read. Mnashida nyingi na hamuelewi.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

2012
#91 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:10:17 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
This is bad and I have a feeling we all do not know just how bad yet. 60 more days of a very negative campaign period cannot possibly make anything better.


I think you are right. Thus time it's gloves-off campaigning. Brace yourself for the most barbaric campaigns yet.

BBI will solve it
:)
maka
#92 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:11:25 PM
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2012 wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
This is bad and I have a feeling we all do not know just how bad yet. 60 more days of a very negative campaign period cannot possibly make anything better.


I think you are right. Thus time it's gloves-off campaigning. Brace yourself for the most barbaric campaigns yet.


smile
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Baratang
#93 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:23:41 PM
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alma1 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.

The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed had NASA lost.

The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.

It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters.


Hambuglar very soon. In not more than 5 years. There shall be a case in the supreme court about your right to go around saying there's no God.

Trust me. On that day, you shall be here just like the Jubilee fellas hating on Maraga.

Trust me. It is coming. Don't take this case as lightly as my lecturer Lumumba was doing with big words that meant nothing. Only people who did not go to school were amazed by Lumumbas presentation.

In fact, I promise you, that this ruling shall have an impact on every aspect of how you live in Kenya and Africa in general.

Wait for their written judgements. You shall go slow on your Lumumbaism. If Maraga says the law must be interpreted as it reads, it will mean that you and your aetheism shall be illegal.

The law is an ass.

I called out Maraga here and even Jubilee people on this forum said I was being too harsh.

The reason Sabina Joy is popular is because Kenyans love quickies. They only see what is infront of them. Right now, they only see that Uhuru lost or Raila won. Or vice versa.

Ona mbele. We have now one of the most conservative courts in the world. They interpret the law as it is written. Then you go vote for that funny woman from Kiambu who can't read. Mnashida nyingi na hamuelewi.


Sawasawa @Alma but, do you also go to karumaindo for a quickie when you are at loggerheads with broggers?Laughing out loudly
alma1
#94 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:30:10 PM
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Baratang wrote:
alma1 wrote:
hamburglar wrote:
This whole crap is nonsense. Just a facade to save the country from the inevitable chaos that would have ensued had the judges ruled in favor of the IEBC and consequently reaffirmed Uhuru as the president.

The reason I say politics is for low IQ and weak minded people is because a few wily people are taking the whole country for a ride and wasting our time and resources. Uhuru will win the repeat elections. It's very obvious. This ruling was to appease NASA supporters and to a larger extent, avoid unnecessary and inevitable death and bloodshed that was guaranteed had NASA lost.

The ruling class rationale is that when Uhuru wins again in the reelection, NASA and its supporters will be too weary and too exhausted to go to the street for mass action or to file another petition. People will have largely moved on with their lives and politics won't be as incendiary as it was this August.

It's all about trying to save the country by appeasing the secession-talking population, if only for a couple more months anyway. The results will be the same after all is said and done, maybe a few percentage points different. The people celebrating this "victory" are clearly misguided and very naive. Uhuru's victory, whether free and fair or otherwise will happen again but people are too emotionally wrapped up in this nonsense or too blind to realize that they are the suckers in this whole charade that's being orchestrated by a few very sly puppet masters.


Hambuglar very soon. In not more than 5 years. There shall be a case in the supreme court about your right to go around saying there's no God.

Trust me. On that day, you shall be here just like the Jubilee fellas hating on Maraga.

Trust me. It is coming. Don't take this case as lightly as my lecturer Lumumba was doing with big words that meant nothing. Only people who did not go to school were amazed by Lumumbas presentation.

In fact, I promise you, that this ruling shall have an impact on every aspect of how you live in Kenya and Africa in general.

Wait for their written judgements. You shall go slow on your Lumumbaism. If Maraga says the law must be interpreted as it reads, it will mean that you and your aetheism shall be illegal.

The law is an ass.

I called out Maraga here and even Jubilee people on this forum said I was being too harsh.

The reason Sabina Joy is popular is because Kenyans love quickies. They only see what is infront of them. Right now, they only see that Uhuru lost or Raila won. Or vice versa.

Ona mbele. We have now one of the most conservative courts in the world. They interpret the law as it is written. Then you go vote for that funny woman from Kiambu who can't read. Mnashida nyingi na hamuelewi.


Sawasawa @Alma but, do you also go to karumaindo for a quickie when you are at loggerheads with broggers?Laughing out loudly


These days I go to craigslist. Karumaindo niliwekewa mchele nikaitwa. "Haka kamzee kana nyege sana". Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

sanity
#95 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:37:37 PM
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I dont believe we are stuck with the fake TV analysts for another 2 months.Sad
Hope is not a strategy
Impunity
#96 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:40:40 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Kusadikika wrote:
The presidential election held on 8th August 2017 was not conducted in accordance with the Constitution and the applicable law rendering the declared result invalid, null and void.

This is how 4 judges determined. They painted this with the broadest brush possible. 4 judges are telling all of Kenya; you did not do this properly, go do it again.

15 million Kenyans went to vote on the 8th of August and no one complained until the results were announced.
Why not a recount?
What were the laws broken on election day by the 15 million voters?

I would bet that even the NASA supporters were hoping that the court could declare that Raila had won, they were not supporting a petition to ask them to vote again.





Nobody expected Raila to be declared Winner. We just wanted justice, that the system was flawed based on procedures & processes.


You really amaze me madam.
From 8th August you seem to haverify courted the Jubilee labia then leo u are back to our house.
Welcome but be steady.
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#97 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:44:53 PM
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gk wrote:
Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?


Them they had made their minds looooong time ago.
Njoki is the biggest loser of the two...she is young, cute and presentable and she was headed to the international courts like ICC adyer the supreme court...but uthamaki imemuuza.
She won't recover.
Sad
Her together with her little sister called Bigchick.
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

murchr
#98 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:46:28 PM
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Impunity wrote:
gk wrote:
Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?


Them they had made their minds looooong time ago.
Njoki is the biggest loser of the two...she is young, cute and presentable and she was headed to the international courts like ICC adyer the supreme court...but uthamaki imemuuza.
She won't recover.
Sad
Her together with her little sister called Bigchick.


Njoki is young and independent and she will be in the supreme court for a very long time.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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alma1
#99 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2017 8:50:58 PM
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murchr wrote:
Impunity wrote:
gk wrote:
Is it by coincidence that Njoki and Jackton sat next to each other and talked the least throughout the hearing?


Them they had made their minds looooong time ago.
Njoki is the biggest loser of the two...she is young, cute and presentable and she was headed to the international courts like ICC adyer the supreme court...but uthamaki imemuuza.
She won't recover.
Sad
Her together with her little sister called Bigchick.


Njoki is young and independent and she will be in the supreme court for a very long time.


At least Jackton tried to give a modicum of reasoning.Something that a law student who was opposed to the ruling can hang a coat on. Have you read Njoki's ruling? Being young doesn't mean much. Ask Kularaha and his choice of women.

I can assure you, that no one in law school will read her opinions. She's now just a number in the Supreme court. All we can do is endure her for the long time she shall be there. Her judgement was no different than reading BigChick or Pauline on facebook. Sad, but true.

Please note how quickly Justice Maraga dismissed their comments. Body language cannot be denied.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

harrydre
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5-0 that will also be historic come November!
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