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Presidential results final say ; constituency RO or IEBC HQ
alma1
#81 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 1:59:11 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:
alma1 wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
[quote=Jump-steady][quote=FRM2011]
Appeal dismissed.



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I don't see how or even why IEBC was debating this issue. What they got instead was a whip from the court...They were effectively told to shut up and do their job. Their job being to count what they recieve and not send people to bomas. The chairman was told his work is a bean counter, not an arbiter. The court is the arbiter. Awache nyef nyef ahesabu tu.

The whole world over, results are tabulated at the polling station. I just don't understand why anyone would think otherwise.

So now we are creating jobs for 40kx 10 young people in polling stations.

As for the returning officer, the judgement was very clear. You are responsible for anything that goes wrong in your polling station. For an election appeal, the appeal shall fall back on the RO.

But some RO's love raira and uhuru so much they may actually decide to rig at the poll station. lol...

Why was anyone fighting this ruling? I don't understand anyone care to explain to me?

By the way, which appeal against your so called justice odinga has the gov't won?


considering our history of impunity, this is perhaps the one judgement that will change our elections forever.

The focus is not even on the R.O. His job is so simple. Receive form 34 from each polling station signed by a presiding officer, add them up, fill in form 36 and announce the results. It is simply impossible to make a mistake. And very many people will have worked out the figures anyway.

The key guy is the Presiding officer. Typically a primary school principal or deputy. He has no incentive to rig. He knows he is a small fish. He knows he is the easiest guy to sacrifice. And all he wants is to collect his 30K from IEBC and go back to his teaching job.

A typical polling station has 700 voters. If you want to get 100,000, you have to inflate votes by 50 per station in 2,000 stations. You have to deal with over 2,000 presiding officers, their deputies, 8 clerks and the agents plus cops/NYS guys present.

The cost of rigging will be astronomical and you have tens of thousands of co-conspirators. Practically impossible.

With Chebukati, 1B will do the job between him and his ICT guys and you are home and dry.


The history of this country is very very clear.

Every time there's chaos it starts at KICC or Bomas. Each and every time..

If it's not Martha Karua saying at KICC that Kibaki won, it's Ruto going to KICC to shout.

If it's not Muthama shouting at Bomas, it's some pick ups coming from Tharaka Nithi.

No, I agree with the constitution and the court.

Let the winners be declared at the POLLING STATION.

So that we don't have to wait for the chaos at night with madmen shouting at each other at bomas.

You finish voting at 7pm. Count in your poll done by 9pm, results from your polling station known by everyone worldwide immeadiately.

The IEBC doesn't know how to count better than me. I dare them.

Let the rigging be done at the polling station so that we can start arresting some corrupt RO's.

Simple and done with. By 8am on the 9th biachara Kenya iendelee.
Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?

mkeiy
#82 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 3:06:14 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

I don't see the need of having an electoral body. The courts should be running electionsSad



@Jump-steady.
Acha ma-roho.
The court has ruled. Accept & move on.
freiks
#83 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 5:06:25 PM
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The biggest losers are those guys who had turn out of more than 90%, they know themselves. BTW T/Nithi turnout was just less than 86% in the last 2 elections
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Jump-steady
#84 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 6:42:58 PM
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mkeiy wrote:
Jump-steady wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Appeal dismissed.

Court of appeal finds no merit in the appeal by IEBC.

Let elections end at the polling station.

Brick wall Brick wall Brick wall

I don't see the need of having an electoral body. The courts should be running electionsSad



@Jump-steady.
Acha ma-roho.
The court has ruled. Accept & move on.


d'oh!

An election dispute is what i fret. It will be quite messy.
limanika
#85 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 6:53:05 PM
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But looking at it, the appeal was not warranted, really. Nothing stops IEBC from coming up with internal reporting structures that comply to the ruling and the katiba. E.g 'draft' or provisional results can still be sent to HQ for verification b4 they are announced. Once verified they're transmitted back and official results announced at the constituency. This way you deal with rogue RO's
Lolest!
#86 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 7:22:39 PM
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freiks wrote:
The biggest losers are those guys who had turn out of more than 90%, they know themselves. BTW T/Nithi turnout was just less than 86% in the last 2 elections

Even the 2M extra votes for presidency lie by Raila has been debunked several times

But this move sio mbaya. The only problem is compromised/biased officials
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Rahatupu
#87 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 9:00:57 PM
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limanika wrote:
But looking at it, the appeal was not warranted, really. Nothing stops IEBC from coming up with internal reporting structures that comply to the ruling and the katiba. E.g 'draft' or provisional results can still be sent to HQ for verification b4 they are announced. Once verified they're transmitted back and official results announced at the constituency. This way you deal with rogue RO's


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FRM2011
#88 Posted : Friday, June 23, 2017 9:58:27 PM
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limanika wrote:
But looking at it, the appeal was not warranted, really. Nothing stops IEBC from coming up with internal reporting structures that comply to the ruling and the katiba. E.g 'draft' or provisional results can still be sent to HQ for verification b4 they are announced. Once verified they're transmitted back and official results announced at the constituency. This way you deal with rogue RO's


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harrydre
#89 Posted : Saturday, June 24, 2017 5:20:53 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
freiks wrote:
The biggest losers are those guys who had turn out of more than 90%, they know themselves. BTW T/Nithi turnout was just less than 86% in the last 2 elections

Even the 2M extra votes for presidency lie by Raila has been debunked several times

But this move sio mbaya. The only problem is compromised/biased officials


The 90%+ turnout areas kwisha. I think someone just shot themselves.
i.am.back!!!!
Uram
#90 Posted : Friday, August 11, 2017 8:44:27 PM
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Looks like NASA trapped themselves passing this law. IMHO, they should be in constituencies verifying results and not in Bomas requesting server access.
Amores
#91 Posted : Friday, August 11, 2017 9:06:18 PM
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Uram wrote:
Looks like NASA trapped themselves passing this law. IMHO, they should be in constituencies verifying results and not in Bomas requesting server access.


Correction, requesting for servers " to be opened" Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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wal6807
#92 Posted : Friday, August 11, 2017 9:07:52 PM
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Uram wrote:
Looks like NASA trapped themselves passing this law. IMHO, they should be in constituencies verifying results and not in Bomas requesting server access.


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