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Doping in sports
madollar
#41 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 12:16:05 PM
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You have to feel for lornah kiplagat her camp is now blacklisted whether the allegations are true or not ,no elite athlete will want to be spotted in that camp and the way its been a favorite for foreigners Sad

Training camp owner denies doping took place on premises in Kenya
Gathige
#42 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 4:22:30 PM
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Very sad indeed. In the not so distant future, we may not have a slot in the Olympics if these doping allegations are true. Kenya being Kenya, it may be true.
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Alba
#43 Posted : Tuesday, July 12, 2016 5:43:42 PM
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Gathige wrote:
Very sad indeed. In the not so distant future, we may not have a slot in the Olympics if these doping allegations are true. Kenya being Kenya, it may be true.


There is far too much drama around Kenya. The real doping systems are in Eastern Europe. Also I am sure Kenya is not the only country with insufficient anti-doping structures.

I mean loook at Botswana for petes sake. All of a sudden they have numerous world class 400m runners. Do they have sufficient anti-doping structures? What of Ethiopia? I am having acute difficulty believing Genzebe Dibaba is clean considering her unnatural progression. And note that she and Mo Farah are coached by Jama Aden who was recently busted in Spain for having EPO vials and needles in his home.
Alba
#44 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:25:44 PM
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Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.
masukuma
#45 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:32:50 PM
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Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.

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sitaki.kujulikana
#46 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:48:56 PM
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Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.

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washiku
#47 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 4:58:20 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Alba
#48 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 5:25:52 PM
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washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Othelo
#49 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 6:08:56 PM
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Alba wrote:
washiku wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Alba wrote:
Russia's ban has been upheld by CAS. I am thrilled. I was concerned that CAS would deliver another bogus, ill-informed ruling like the one they made about Caster. I am happy. If you think about it from a logical progression standpoint, you can tell that Literally every Russian who has won gold in the past decade or so is cheating.

As for Kenya, If its true that AK officials have been demanding bribes to cover positive doping tests, then Kenya is skating on thin ice. It means AK behaviour borders on systemic doping as well. All it would take is one whistle-blower to go public with legitimate video evidence and Kenya is toast.


The only saving grace for Kenya is that the IAAF is itself corrupt and likely turned a blind eye to the corruption in Kenya. Especially during the Lamine Diack era. That may not continue under Seb Coe.

For Russia, they ought to use this ban as an opportunity to clean their act. But they aren't. Instead they are crying eti this is political. I wish they could be banned from other sports.



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Alba
#50 Posted : Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:46:38 PM
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Usain Bolt supports the ban on Russia

The sport of athletics has quickly become a joke to most casual fans. Bolt is one of the last few legit hopes. If Bolt is ever busted for doping, the sport may be finished. However I lean towards thinking Bolt is legit.
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