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Flat Rate Excise Duty On Used Motor Vehicles
Plimsoul
#81 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 12:39:41 PM
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sqft wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sqft wrote:
Flat rate excise duty (200k) on used cars scrapped "to help those importing cheaper cars". Link Budget.

And replaced with what???

They needed to experiment to know this was a Bullcrap idea?? Haki Kenya kuna mchezo!

Effective when?? Kama mtu yuko na ka prado high seas, hatalipa a ka lose 200k??


Back to the old 20% of value. Kama zamani.


Might have to do with a 24% drop in car imports Jan-Apr 2016 compared to 2015.

Page 51 from this KNBS data

http://knbs.or.ke/index....131:2016&Itemid=599


Kenyans are quite price sensitive. Government learning how much so.
MaichBlack
#82 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 12:52:28 PM
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Plimsoul wrote:
sqft wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sqft wrote:
Flat rate excise duty (200k) on used cars scrapped "to help those importing cheaper cars". Link Budget.

And replaced with what???

They needed to experiment to know this was a Bullcrap idea?? Haki Kenya kuna mchezo!

Effective when?? Kama mtu yuko na ka prado high seas, hatalipa a ka lose 200k??


Back to the old 20% of value. Kama zamani.


Might have to do with a 24% drop in car imports Jan-Apr 2016 compared to 2015.

Page 51 from this KNBS data

http://knbs.or.ke/index....131:2016&Itemid=599


Kenyans are quite price sensitive. Government learning how much so.

But it would have at least made people buy cars that are have already been used in Kenya and learn to maintain and give them some TLC. We would have people driving nice looking and we'll maintained KVJs like they do in Cuba. Sio ma KCF kila mahali!!!
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
githundi
#83 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:34:30 PM
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Plimsoul wrote:
sqft wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sqft wrote:
Flat rate excise duty (200k) on used cars scrapped "to help those importing cheaper cars". Link Budget.

And replaced with what???

They needed to experiment to know this was a Bullcrap idea?? Haki Kenya kuna mchezo!

Effective when?? Kama mtu yuko na ka prado high seas, hatalipa a ka lose 200k??


Back to the old 20% of value. Kama zamani.


Might have to do with a 24% drop in car imports Jan-Apr 2016 compared to 2015.

Page 51 from this KNBS data

http://knbs.or.ke/index....131:2016&Itemid=599


Kenyans are quite price sensitive. Government learning how much so.

I thought so...which had led to reduction in taxes. The other reasons given in the budget was just a smoke screen.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
githundi
#84 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:45:12 PM
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The increase in fuel levy from shs 12 to shs 18 is the trick for this year. It is the surest way to collect more taxes
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mugo2of3
#85 Posted : Thursday, June 09, 2016 7:52:47 PM
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Plimsoul wrote:
sqft wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
sqft wrote:
Flat rate excise duty (200k) on used cars scrapped "to help those importing cheaper cars". Link Budget.

And replaced with what???

They needed to experiment to know this was a Bullcrap idea?? Haki Kenya kuna mchezo!

Effective when?? Kama mtu yuko na ka prado high seas, hatalipa a ka lose 200k??


Back to the old 20% of value. Kama zamani.


Might have to do with a 24% drop in car imports Jan-Apr 2016 compared to 2015.

Page 51 from this KNBS data

http://knbs.or.ke/index....131:2016&Itemid=599


Kenyans are quite price sensitive. Government learning how much so.


True that, we used to go through a No. Plate series in 3-4 months. KCF(V) was in November last year and we are just starting KCH now...

Instead of allowing the local 2nd- (I mean 3rd-) hand cars to become more expensive, the Gov't would rather continue with the old Tax regime and get more taxes.

Ignore the nonsense about pro-poor vs pro-rich, these guys are not interested in that stuff
Capri
#86 Posted : Saturday, June 11, 2016 3:01:01 PM
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A clearing agent tells me system already updated with new rate, KRA website also has a new duty calculation template reflecting the changes.
hardwood
#87 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:01:38 PM
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Capri wrote:
A clearing agent tells me system already updated with new rate, KRA website also has a new duty calculation template reflecting the changes.

Yap. Kusema na kutenda. Wachana na those saying that this matter must be sorted via parliament I.e amending laws in December.
enyands
#88 Posted : Sunday, June 12, 2016 10:19:21 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Capri wrote:
A clearing agent tells me system already updated with new rate, KRA website also has a new duty calculation template reflecting the changes.

Yap. Kusema na kutenda. Wachana na those saying that this matter must be sorted via parliament I.e amending laws in December.



A nissan teanna 2009 model buying at a cost of 400,000 from japan I'll end up paying 450,000 taxes and if I add the clearing agent fee it will be 500,000!!!!! Value of taxes is more price of the car ? Kweli this is a tax financed economy

car import tax calculator
kimugaman
#89 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 4:34:57 AM
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I used the calculator from KRA website today for a
Toyota Corolla Fielder Date January 2009
Depreciation 70% <---was auto generated
Engine capacity 1490 <-- was auto generated
And the following was the output:
Question:

1.) The excise duty shows 200,000k. Is this normal? If they removed 200k excise tax, shouldn't ' it be lower?
2.) what is custom value vs VAT value?

Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) KSh 2,450,000.00
Custom Value KSh 337,931.03
Import Duty KSh 84,482.76
Excise Duty KSh 200,000.00
VAT Value KSh 622,413.79
VAT Duty KSh 99,586.21
Total Taxes KSh 384,068.97
Import Declaration Fee (IDF) KSh 7,603.45
Railways Development Levy KSh 5,068.97
Registration Fee KSh 7,360.00
Total Amount KSh 404,101.38
Grand Total Port Charges KSh 27,787.00
MSS Levy (Maritime Surcharge Levy) KSh 1,681.00
Clearing & Freight Forwarding Cost KSh 15,000.00
Shipping Delivery Order Fee KSh 8,401.00
Estimated Total Cost Of Duty & Clearing KSh 456,970.3
sizzla
#90 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 11:23:57 AM
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kimugaman wrote:
I used the calculator from KRA website today for a
Toyota Corolla Fielder Date January 2009
Depreciation 70% <---was auto generated
Engine capacity 1490 <-- was auto generated
And the following was the output:
Question:

1.) The excise duty shows 200,000k. Is this normal? If they removed 200k excise tax, shouldn't ' it be lower?
2.) what is custom value vs VAT value?

Current Retail Selling Price (CRSP) KSh 2,450,000.00
Custom Value KSh 337,931.03
Import Duty KSh 84,482.76
Excise Duty KSh 200,000.00
VAT Value KSh 622,413.79
VAT Duty KSh 99,586.21
Total Taxes KSh 384,068.97
Import Declaration Fee (IDF) KSh 7,603.45
Railways Development Levy KSh 5,068.97
Registration Fee KSh 7,360.00
Total Amount KSh 404,101.38
Grand Total Port Charges KSh 27,787.00
MSS Levy (Maritime Surcharge Levy) KSh 1,681.00
Clearing & Freight Forwarding Cost KSh 15,000.00
Shipping Delivery Order Fee KSh 8,401.00
Estimated Total Cost Of Duty & Clearing KSh 456,970.3


Used the new valuation template to calculate duty for a Hilux Surf landing this week. Duty comes to 466,500 at 70% depreciation.
KulaRaha
#91 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 11:35:03 AM
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hardwood wrote:
Capri wrote:
A clearing agent tells me system already updated with new rate, KRA website also has a new duty calculation template reflecting the changes.

Yap. Kusema na kutenda. Wachana na those saying that this matter must be sorted via parliament I.e amending laws in December.


Yeah, heard the same thing...KRA already taking more money for bigger cars.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
mikanjoroge
#92 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 11:49:33 AM
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Today I went to this website:

http://calculator.co.ke/...-import-duty-calculator


I put in particulars: Toyota Fielder 2009 and see many taxes including one that indicates excise duty is still 200k flat. That means to me it hasn't changed. Ama am I missing something?
githundi
#93 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 2:09:10 PM
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Guys be serious. ..Excise duty can't change. ...won't change until finance bill is passed somewhere in December
Democracy does not belong to the dead
KulaRaha
#94 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 2:13:32 PM
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githundi wrote:
Guys be serious. ..Excise duty can't change. ...won't change until finance bill is passed somewhere in December


My agent says it has changed....someone needs to sue KRA LOL
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
sitaki.kujulikana
#95 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 3:27:07 PM
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mikanjoroge wrote:
Today I went to this website:

http://calculator.co.ke/...-import-duty-calculator


I put in particulars: Toyota Fielder 2009 and see many taxes including one that indicates excise duty is still 200k flat. That means to me it hasn't changed. Ama am I missing something?

yes you are missing something
streetwise
#96 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 3:37:25 PM
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The finance bill has to be approved by parliament and accented to by the president. It will happen earlier since the Government needs the money to run her affairs
bartum
#97 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 4:43:34 PM
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There is a van Iam clearing entry was done on 9 June showing duty of 396k but on 10 June the duty changed to 228k but I had to pay 396k, bad for me
enyands
#98 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 4:48:45 PM
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bartum wrote:
There is a van Iam clearing entry was done on 9 June showing duty of 396k but on 10 June the duty changed to 228k but I had to pay 396k, bad for me



So Bartum what was to be waived off if you were to pay on June 10th? Was it vat,or excise or which tax that's going to be scrapped off ?I'm short how's your breakdown
PeterReborn
#99 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 6:06:03 PM
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I have just spoken to my agent and he has confirmed that the new rates have been effected immediately.
Consistency is better than intensity
bartum
#100 Posted : Monday, June 13, 2016 6:32:20 PM
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enyands wrote:
bartum wrote:
There is a van Iam clearing entry was done on 9 June showing duty of 396k but on 10 June the duty changed to 228k but I had to pay 396k, bad for me



So Bartum what was to be waived off if you were to pay on June 10th? Was it vat,or excise or which tax that's going to be scrapped off ?I'm short how's your breakdown

I paid customs 81800, excise 200,000 and vat 96,000
I would have been approx 80k, 80k and 76k respectively
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