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mkonomtupu
#41 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 10:26:48 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 2/10/2010
Posts: 1,001
Location: River Road
Some random trades.
*warning:Do not copy blindly it does not work for everyone

Uchumi
Sell price 12.45( Jan 2015)- buy price 8.45(Nov 2014) x 236,500=946,000/=
Leverage: Kshs 2,000,0000 Source: Sacco
Interest rate: 12%p.a. Monthly payments 52 668*4 months=210,672
946,000-47,300(capital gains tax)=898,700
898,700-210,672=688,028(net gains)

NIC
Sell price 75 (Aug 2014)-buy price 29.75(May 2012)X 20500=927,625/=(net gains)
Buy back price(May 2015)Kshs 1,537,500/56.5=27,000 shares

Kengen
Sell price 12.5(Oct 2014)-buy price 9.95 (July 2014)X 150,000=382,500/=
Leverage Kshs 1,500,000 Source: Sacco
Loan period: 4 years
Monthly payments Kshs 39,500
Total interest: 397,000
Buy back (Jan 2015) 1,882,500/9.55=197,000
Sell price 11.3(March 2015)-buy price 9.55 (Jan 2015)x 197,000=344,750
344,750-17237.5(capital gains tax)=327,512.5
Buy back (May 2015) =2,208,863/9.5=232,000
sparkly
#42 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 1:26:58 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
mkonomtupu wrote:
Some random trades.
*warning:Do not copy blindly it does not work for everyone

Uchumi
Sell price 12.45( Jan 2015)- buy price 8.45(Nov 2014) x 236,500=946,000/=
Leverage: Kshs 2,000,0000 Source: Sacco
Interest rate: 12%p.a. Monthly payments 52 668*4 months=210,672
946,000-47,300(capital gains tax)=898,700
898,700-210,672=688,028(net gains)

NIC
Sell price 75 (Aug 2014)-buy price 29.75(May 2012)X 20500=927,625/=(net gains)
Buy back price(May 2015)Kshs 1,537,500/56.5=27,000 shares

Kengen
Sell price 12.5(Oct 2014)-buy price 9.95 (July 2014)X 150,000=382,500/=
Leverage Kshs 1,500,000 Source: Sacco
Loan period: 4 years
Monthly payments Kshs 39,500
Total interest: 397,000
Buy back (Jan 2015) 1,882,500/9.55=197,000
Sell price 11.3(March 2015)-buy price 9.55 (Jan 2015)x 197,000=344,750
344,750-17237.5(capital gains tax)=327,512.5
Buy back (May 2015) =2,208,863/9.5=232,000



Uchumi - 33% Net Return
NIC - 152% Net Return
Kengen - 22% Net Return
Life is short. Live passionately.
Mukiri
#43 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 4:51:41 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2012
Posts: 5,222
mkonomtupu wrote:
Some random trades.
*warning:Do not copy blindly it does not work for everyone

Uchumi
Sell price 12.45( Jan 2015)- buy price 8.45(Nov 2014) x 236,500=946,000/=
Leverage: Kshs 2,000,0000 Source: Sacco
Interest rate: 12%p.a. Monthly payments 52 668*4 months=210,672
946,000-47,300(capital gains tax)=898,700
898,700-210,672=688,028(net gains)

NIC
Sell price 75 (Aug 2014)-buy price 29.75(May 2012)X 20500=927,625/=(net gains)
Buy back price(May 2015)Kshs 1,537,500/56.5=27,000 shares

Kengen
Sell price 12.5(Oct 2014)-buy price 9.95 (July 2014)X 150,000=382,500/=
Leverage Kshs 1,500,000 Source: Sacco
Loan period: 4 years
Monthly payments Kshs 39,500
Total interest: 397,000
Buy back (Jan 2015) 1,882,500/9.55=197,000
Sell price 11.3(March 2015)-buy price 9.55 (Jan 2015)x 197,000=344,750
344,750-17237.5(capital gains tax)=327,512.5
Buy back (May 2015) =2,208,863/9.5=232,000

This is some serious strategy! NIC & Kengen on bear?

Proverbs 19:21
Aguytrying
#44 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 8:31:41 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
@mkonomtupu. congrats. being able to pull that off is not easy. couple speculation with leverage very large risk, but its working for you. I've been eyeing NIC bank also, I think the company is on a good growth trajectory.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#45 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 8:59:37 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
Aguytrying wrote:
@mkonomtupu. congrats. being able to pull that off is not easy. couple speculation with leverage very large risk, but its working for you. I've been eyeing NIC bank also, I think the company is on a good growth trajectory.

Congrats Bw.MkonomtupuApplause Applause Applause
@SufficientlyP
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#46 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 9:01:43 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2010
Posts: 2,225
Location: Sundowner,Amboseli
And he's about to make money on his 9.50 Kengenssmile
@SufficientlyP
Pesa Nane
#47 Posted : Friday, May 15, 2015 10:36:50 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 5/25/2012
Posts: 4,105
Location: 08c
mkonomtupu wrote:
Some random trades.
*warning:Do not copy blindly it does not work for everyone

Uchumi
Sell price 12.45( Jan 2015)- buy price 8.45(Nov 2014) x 236,500=946,000/=
Leverage: Kshs 2,000,0000 Source: Sacco
Interest rate: 12%p.a. Monthly payments 52 668*4 months=210,672
946,000-47,300(capital gains tax)=898,700
898,700-210,672=688,028(net gains)

NIC
Sell price 75 (Aug 2014)-buy price 29.75(May 2012)X 20500=927,625/=(net gains)
Buy back price(May 2015)Kshs 1,537,500/56.5=27,000 shares (Gaifafa)

Kengen
Sell price 12.5(Oct 2014)-buy price 9.95 (July 2014)X 150,000=382,500/=
Leverage Kshs 1,500,000 Source: Sacco
Loan period: 4 years
Monthly payments Kshs 39,500
Total interest: 397,000
Buy back (Jan 2015) 1,882,500/9.55=197,000
Sell price 11.3(March 2015)-buy price 9.55 (Jan 2015)x 197,000=344,750
344,750-17237.5(capital gains tax)=327,512.5
Buy back (May 2015) =2,208,863/9.5=232,000

Yawa! are those Zim $$ or it's Kshs.?? Totally hate you!! Applause Applause
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
VituVingiSana
#48 Posted : Saturday, May 16, 2015 12:41:49 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,353
Location: Nairobi
digitek1 wrote:
yes Warren buffet does
Not really. That said... I would not mind that amount ($40bn) in Shs!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
target1360
#49 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2015 1:31:31 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/14/2014
Posts: 289
Location: nairobi
I’m very conservative. I will never buy shares in my life, I put my money in fixed deposit. But if you give me money, I will buy good running shoes and running gear, those kinds of things because that’s what I love doing.-ohana

why why would the KK ceo not buy shares????
rink
I find satisfaction in owning great business,not trading them
sparkly
#50 Posted : Monday, May 18, 2015 3:59:25 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
target1360 wrote:
I’m very conservative. I will never buy shares in my life, I put my money in fixed deposit. But if you give me money, I will buy good running shoes and running gear, those kinds of things because that’s what I love doing.-ohana

why why would the KK ceo not buy shares????
rink


What? I always assumed that the man is a lakesider!
Life is short. Live passionately.
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