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Salaam Alaikum @Alphdoti @guru267 "These abducted schoolgirls are my sisters, and I call on the international community and the government of Nigeria to take action and save my sisters. It should be our duty to speak up for our brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are in a very difficult situation.” Malala Yousafzai  "It was because your hearts were hard that he gave you this law. But it was not this way from the beginning." Any religion in 2014 that exorts its members to do as much is wrong to that extent - be it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or any other.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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guru267 wrote:masukuma wrote:nakujua wrote:guru267 wrote:nakujua wrote:guru267 wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:to hell with any religion that has any mention that okays such, these are kids. Make sure you blame the right religion and the right God! The Holy Books always have the answer... Exodus 21:7-8 "If a man sells his daughter as a slave she shall not regain her freedom. If she does not please her master according to his intentions he should sell her back."Deuteronomy 22:28-29 "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Numbers 31:17-19 Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves. Judges 21:10-24 "Among the residents of Jabesh-gilead they found four hundred young virgins who had never slept with a man, and they brought them to the camp....then the men of Benjamin returned to their homes, and the four hundred women of Jabesh-gilead who were spared were given to them as wives."Deuteronomy 20:10-14 "When the LORD your God hands over the town to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.Judges 5:30 " They must be dividing the spoils they took: there must be a virgin or two for each man" Deuteronomy 21:10-14 "When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, sor likoni attacko that you take captives, if you see a virgin woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house"Zechariah 14:1-2 "Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city. thats why I said ANY RELIGION, ama its a case of suspicion always haunting the guilty mind. I was just making sure you knew which religion to blame! sasawa hapo, now I know. huwa nashangaa sana sometimes - THE BIBLE IS NOT MEANT FOR QUOTING!! it's meant for LEARNING!! Quotaholics quote all over the place to show how bad something really is. Hahaha... says the person who will quote the qur'an any day! Gods law is Gods law... Penda au Usipende! I am not very much into religion, but reading through some texts in the religious books can leave one thinking what the hell people think following that - anyways, religion ni wewe na mungu wako
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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@Guru267, You havent responded to my request If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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muganda wrote:Salaam Alaikum @Alphdoti @guru267 "These abducted schoolgirls are my sisters, and I call on the international community and the government of Nigeria to take action and save my sisters.
It should be our duty to speak up for our brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are in a very difficult situation.” Malala Yousafzai  "It was because your hearts were hard that he gave you this law. But it was not this way from the beginning." Any religion in 2014 that exorts its members to do as much is wrong to that extent - be it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or any other. agree with you on that, its a beastly act especially on helpless young girls
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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muganda wrote:Salaam Alaikum @Alphdoti @guru267
"These abducted schoolgirls are my sisters, and I call on the international community and the government of Nigeria to take action and save my sisters. It should be our duty to speak up for our brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are in a very difficult situation.” Malala Yousafzai
"It was because your hearts were hard that he gave you this law. But it was not this way from the beginning."
Any religion in 2014 that exorts its members to do as much is wrong to that extent - be it Judaism, Christianity, Islam, or any other. @muganda, as far Education is concerned, Islam, revolutionary support, gave women the due right and status in the days of ignorance, 1400 years ago. Islam is devoted to modernize, the thinking, our living, our seeing, our hearing, our feeling, and striving for the women's upliftment and participation in the society. The women's rights in Islam should be judged according to authentic sources, and not what individual Muslims do, or what a Muslim society does. Remember there are different Muslim societies, some maybe close to Islam, some maybe far away from Islam. It's the duty of everybody to seek knowledge. Don't be "imaha", when people say you says yes, when they say no, you say no. Don't just follow. Islam believes and equality of men and women. Equality does not mean identicality. In Islam the roles of man and women are complementary, it's not conflicting, it's that of partnership. Islam promotes educational rights of everyone, including girls. The first guidance from Quran to human kind was not to pray, not to give charity, not to fast, but it was to read. Quran 96:1-5 Quote:Read, recite, proclaim in the name of Allah, who He created man and woman, who has taught human through pen and paper. Islam gives utmost emphasize to education. The prophet ordained the parents to gave education to daughters. And after she is married, it was the duty of husband to give her education. There's hadith which says women one day women asked prophet why he surrounds himself with men, and if he will allow them to ask him questions. Prophet allowed this and sent many swahaba to give women education. Imagine 1400 years ago when women were ill-treated, only used, Islam asked women to be educated. We have many examples of women scholars.Example is Aisha. She gave guidance even to the swahabas. One famous student said he had not seen any greater scholar than Aisha in field of Quran, obligateory duties, lawful and unlawful matters, literature and poetry, Arabic history, field of math e.g. inheritance She narrated many hadiths. She was the most intellectual woman of that time. Just because Islam says that every woman should be educated, will you call such women's rights in Islam as modernizing or outdated?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,908
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We agree @Alphdoti, we agree. And it is a delight to say as much. We need to realize it and say it much more often.
Let's condemn ignorance, hardness of hearts, fanaticism. And let's pursue the greater jihad.
Inshallah, many Wazuans will stand shoulder to shoulder in a better place; though I for one know I do not deserve it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,588
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The "radicals" should not raise our/your sensibility towards muslims (it is their EXACT intention), the lady in the picture is a muslim, pleading against robbers and rapist who are using some brand of radicalized thinking, as the two erstwhile "permanently userable radicals". The fact of the matter is MY RELIGION should scarce INTERFERE with yours because humans can communicate through words, when you introduce FORCE & VIOLENCE, you are obviously dumb enough NOT to communicate properly whether you spend hours typing away about your fundamentalism islam, christianity, ahteism, and in my case too hesitant to profess! But don't ARGUE like a fool while quoting MOSES who is waaaaaay tooooo intelligent, and who came with the PLAN from above written:- Thou shall not kill, Thou shall not steal, Thou shall not commit adultry....and you are CONSTANTLY DEFENDING..rapist, murderers, thieves..in the name of "some brand" of "your own self cooked religion" MOSES was a planner, and his PLAN was TO ACHIEVE PEACE amongst people on earth over the years, hiyo tu, HIS WAS A TEN POINT PLAN that is simple enough to understand, it is a plan NOT, Islam, Xtian, etc, just a plan for everybody, he was trying to make PEACE amongst savages! Kwa hivo tolerance! Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Hhmmmmmm,,,,,,
These things will continue happening. Sad. Seemingly unstoppable.
Unity, love, peace, togetherness, oneness ,,,,,, .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/15/2006 Posts: 3,908
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But @Alphdoti and @guru267 condemn and denounce this, not so?
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