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murchr
#41 Posted : Monday, July 15, 2013 10:12:39 PM
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kamaug wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
Traffic around the area will be terrible

Parking space has been factored into the design. Glass half full. Please think positive. Is traffic around KICC terrible?


Lets think mathematically, assuming everyone in the building and the surrounding with the privilege of driving leaves at 5, and given that the roads will not expand, how will that traffic be?


The traffic flow will not be any different than it is now because the available parking space in the basement will be optimumly utilised just as it is happening now...Although the tower will be constructed there will be no corresponding increase in parking space...

In the early stages fo development, the civil engineers persuaded the Nairobi City Council to make monrovia and mokhta daddah street single lanes which they did...but NCC made a very stupid mistake...introducing side parkings along these roads...This is why most of the times there is traffic jams along koinange street even when the university way is clear!!


I believe those who will be parking there will eventually leave for other businesses, supposing they all leave at five baada ya kazi, how messy will the roads be esp if we are to believe that the 500 who currently park there work in the vicinity? Traffic will def be a mess....but thats the Kenyan way of doing things...we'll react later

Lets not forget... there is a Heliport... they thought of everything... smile


How many will be landing there yawa
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King G
#42 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:26:00 AM
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murchr wrote:
kamaug wrote:
murchr wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
obiero wrote:
Mpenzi wrote:
Traffic around the area will be terrible

Parking space has been factored into the design. Glass half full. Please think positive. Is traffic around KICC terrible?


Lets think mathematically, assuming everyone in the building and the surrounding with the privilege of driving leaves at 5, and given that the roads will not expand, how will that traffic be?


The traffic flow will not be any different than it is now because the available parking space in the basement will be optimumly utilised just as it is happening now...Although the tower will be constructed there will be no corresponding increase in parking space...

In the early stages fo development, the civil engineers persuaded the Nairobi City Council to make monrovia and mokhta daddah street single lanes which they did...but NCC made a very stupid mistake...introducing side parkings along these roads...This is why most of the times there is traffic jams along koinange street even when the university way is clear!!


I believe those who will be parking there will eventually leave for other businesses, supposing they all leave at five baada ya kazi, how messy will the roads be esp if we are to believe that the 500 who currently park there work in the vicinity? Traffic will def be a mess....but thats the Kenyan way of doing things...we'll react later

Lets not forget... there is a Heliport... they thought of everything... smile


How many will be landing there yawa


There is a heliport not airport as we know it smile smile smile
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madollar
#43 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:44:38 AM
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I was wondering how they will construct 31 floors with customers shopping at nakumatt lifestyle .

Project now stopped due to safety concerns

This is just a safety measure as Nakumatt Lifestyle is busy and popular and should be supported by everyone so that we do not say I wish we did this or that when a disaster occurs during the construction period
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mpobiz
#44 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:48:57 AM
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There is a building being constructed around upper hill, from far it looks like the tallest building in town. I don't see this hazina house catching up
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Gathige
#45 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:55:20 AM
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mpobiz wrote:
There is a building being constructed around upper hill, from far it looks like the tallest building in town. I don't see this hazina house catching up



@mbobiz, I think the one in Upper Hill is the KCB HQs.

The Upper Hill elevation is higher than that one of CBD hence the appearance of the buildings there seeming taller than those in the CBD.
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limanika
#46 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:27:14 PM
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@Kaigangio, When is the lease agreement with Nakumatt expiring? That’s when they should do the construction or otherwise pay Nakumatt for the remaining term. There is no way construction can continue when building is under occupation.
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Tito44
#47 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:45:00 PM
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limanika wrote:
There is no way construction can continue when building is under occupation.

@Limalika
This seems not to be the case. Read a story featured in the Nation sometimes back. http://www.jambonewspot....eated-nairobis-skyline/

"Among my most technically complicated projects, Lonrho House takes the cake. When I got the deal to do the house, there was a two-storey structure on site which had existing tenants who were not expected to move out of their premises or close shop. We had to construct the house around and over them as they went on with their daily duties."

Also the story in the star newspaper seems to suggest that construction will proceed while clients go about their business. http://www.the-star.co.k...ssf-sh67billion-project

"Justus Kathenge, the assistant director of city planning in charge of enforcement said the contractor, China Jiangxi International Kenya Limited, should indicate the modern technology they will use in the construction of the 39-storey structure to avoid affecting current tenants, including Nakumatt supermarket"

It will be interesting to see how this goes
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bkismat
#48 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 12:57:35 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
bartum wrote:
@kaiganjo you must be a civil engineer

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limanika
#49 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:28:03 PM
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Tito44 wrote:
limanika wrote:
There is no way construction can continue when building is under occupation.

@Limalika
This seems not to be the case. Read a story featured in the Nation sometimes back. http://www.jambonewspot....eated-nairobis-skyline/

"Among my most technically complicated projects, Lonrho House takes the cake. When I got the deal to do the house, there was a two-storey structure on site which had existing tenants who were not expected to move out of their premises or close shop. We had to construct the house around and over them as they went on with their daily duties."

Also the story in the star newspaper seems to suggest that construction will proceed while clients go about their business. http://www.the-star.co.k...ssf-sh67billion-project

"Justus Kathenge, the assistant director of city planning in charge of enforcement said the contractor, China Jiangxi International Kenya Limited, should indicate the modern technology they will use in the construction of the 39-storey structure to avoid affecting current tenants, including Nakumatt supermarket"

It will be interesting to see how this goes


If the Lonro house was constructed ‘around’ an existing building, then it might have been easier to deal with. In the present case, the building occupies entire plot beacon to beacon and they have to use the existing columns. If the existing tenants will remain during construction, it will be very interesting indeed to see what technology they are going to employ to guarantee safety.
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obiero
#50 Posted : Tuesday, July 16, 2013 5:57:01 PM
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as a tenant i would want to vacate willingly during construction. i wldnt have the stomach to imagine being suddenly burried under 39floors of concrete
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