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the illusion of reality
tycho
#41 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:31:52 PM
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ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
The way, is the day to day working of your faith.

The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.

The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'.


Is everyone on a path to completeness? Individually and collectively.


All have always been free to choose what they want.

Because they know what is good and evil. Those who claim ignorance are definitely liars, and the lazy.
ChessMaster
#42 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:33:36 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
tycho wrote:
The way, is the day to day working of your faith.

The truth is that the way leads to the Kingdom of completeness and pleasure and worship.

The life is the being in that Kingdom. The speech, the laughter, hahaha! The 'Civilization'.


Is everyone on a path to completeness? Individually and collectively.


All have always been free to choose what they want.

Because they know what is good and evil. Those who claim ignorance are definitely liars, and the lazy.


How do they know?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
butterflyke
#43 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:39:32 PM
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tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith.


How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'?

Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man?

To me, the man is the butterfly.


Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto? smile
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
tycho
#44 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:45:34 PM
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If one is ignorant but diligent, he will ask. And so shall he receive!

To ask, is to work your faith. So is to seek, and to knock!

Does God ask anything else from the Pilgrim except the cross, of loving your brother as thy self?

This, is why all religions are one.

ChessMaster
#45 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:47:15 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith.


How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'?

Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man?

To me, the man is the butterfly.


Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto? smile


Is the man dreaming of the butterfly or is the butterfly dreaming of the man?Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#46 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:48:13 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
tycho wrote:
ChessMaster wrote:
I think I finally get it:) I should learn to be more silent.Simply,what I think I know or understand could just be another illusion/fantasy and can be fully based on faith.


How can the 'I', be 'silent'? Is the 'I' real then? What about the 'faith'?

Think of the 'dream problem'. Is it the man who is dreaming of the butterfly, or the butterfly dreaming of the man?

To me, the man is the butterfly.


Nani ametajajina yangu kwa ndoto? smile


'I'.
ChessMaster
#47 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:49:29 PM
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Joined: 2/23/2009
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tycho wrote:
If one is ignorant but diligent, he will ask. And so shall he receive!

To ask, is to work your faith. So is to seek, and to knock!

Does God ask anything else from the Pilgrim except the cross, of loving your brother as thy self?

This, is why all religions are one.



Applause Applause Applause
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
tycho
#48 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 2:53:07 PM
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blueman wrote:
U know the creator must feel really bad when u call His creation ILLUSION!

Can you imagine a car you design and build - a Merc Benz for example, calling itself an amorphous assemblage of fiber, metal, plastic,rubber and wood? instead of doing what its supposed to do?

A better question to tackle in life is: What's the purpose of my existence? What good can I do to further the work of my creator?


Yes. How do you relate with your Creator?
ChessMaster
#49 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:02:37 PM
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blueman wrote:
U know the creator must feel really bad when u call His creation ILLUSION!

Can you imagine a car you design and build - a Merc Benz for example, calling itself an amorphous assemblage of fiber, metal, plastic,rubber and wood? instead of doing what its supposed to do?

A better question to tackle in life is: What's the purpose of my existence? What good can I do to further the work of my creator?


To me illusion is part of reality. The illusion I am concerned about is all in the mind. I can try to answer those questions,but then I could just be following my own illusions.
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
ChessMaster
#50 Posted : Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:04:25 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
Faith is action.


@Tycho: you still believe I 'take this illusion business too far?"



Do you?
Uncertainty is certain.Let go
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