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CJ Mutunga/Kenyans Vs Kimemia/State
nostoppingthis
#41 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:36:05 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
alma wrote:

When a chief justice of a country says that he's fearing for his life, we take him seriously. Whether the guy is gay, in cord, sober, high, in tna, without a party or wears ladies undies. He's the chief justice. We listen.


He should go to the police. Fearing for one's life is no laughing matter and should be investigated. Not just being infront of cameras.


you remind me how the KE government set up the judiciary prior to 2007 elections (and went against IPPG) and then asked ODM to go to the courts!!
radio
#42 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:36:38 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
alma wrote:

When a chief justice of a country says that he's fearing for his life, we take him seriously. Whether the guy is gay, in cord, sober, high, in tna, without a party or wears ladies undies. He's the chief justice. We listen.


He should go to the police. Fearing for one's life is no laughing matter and should be investigated. Not just being infront of cameras.


@JB, when you get an answer to this let me know. He (CJ) should be showing the way by following the law.
tycho
#43 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:38:31 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
alma wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
Arsenal lost against Bayern Munich. What? Wrong thread? Too much politics it's time for sports.


I love sports, but what the CJ has just said is not a laughing matter.

Go back home and reflect very carefully on what he said. Then think again. You may not want to hear about Arsenal.

Some things in life are serious and this is one of those serious things in life that you have to chew on.

Especially the part where this is not a political thread but a security thread.

Not really alma, there's so much noise going on around, one has no idea whether it's a ploy, a threat, etc. If we allow ourselves to get so lost in these politics, 2008 will be child's play. There are so many cross lines and even you, as an individual, need to reach that point where you ask yourself is anything that is happening healthy? A CJ is threatened by an outlawed group, a serious threat no doubt. Does he go to the cops to record a statement and let investigations begin? The head of civil service is accused of intimidation, does the Minister incharge of Immigration get to the bottom of this? All this is whipping our emotions, to the point we start accusing and insulting each other based on our political divide. Yet this is the time we need to be calming down and advocating for peace.


I agree.
alma
#44 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:39:19 PM
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Jus Blazin wrote:
alma wrote:

When a chief justice of a country says that he's fearing for his life, we take him seriously. Whether the guy is gay, in cord, sober, high, in tna, without a party or wears ladies undies. He's the chief justice. We listen.


He should go to the police. Fearing for one's life is no laughing matter and should be investigated. Not just being infront of cameras.


I agree with you. But what makes you think he hasn't.

He's the CJ.

Don't forget the Inspector General recently stated that there are people buying pangas in Kibera. So who did the IG report to such an incidence.

When a CJ, even if its Bernard Chunga, God rest his soul, makes such a statement, think very very hard and don't let your politics and emotions cloud the statement.

As for Yekeyeke, I don't discuss issues with people with obvious emotional issues.

I prefer good political banter with the likes of much know et al. But you on the other hand need serious healing hands.

This is not a political issue, it is a security issue and everyone with a family they care for should take it very very very seriously.

What is worrying me is how one political outfit has taken it upon itself to deny that what the CJ is saying is true. Now that is very worrying.
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Much Know
#45 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:41:30 PM
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The same mungiki are on record decrying the GEMA ruling class for extrajudicial killings, the same ones accusing UK in ICC, IG has our approval to do whatever he wants to mungiki, they are not a part of Jubilee and have no interest in UK or Ruto as that letter claims, they are associated with and members of cord and enemies of GEMA.
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McReggae
#46 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:42:09 PM
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alma wrote:
Jus Blazin wrote:
alma wrote:

When a chief justice of a country says that he's fearing for his life, we take him seriously. Whether the guy is gay, in cord, sober, high, in tna, without a party or wears ladies undies. He's the chief justice. We listen.


He should go to the police. Fearing for one's life is no laughing matter and should be investigated. Not just being infront of cameras.


I agree with you. But what makes you think he hasn't.

He's the CJ.

Don't forget the Inspector General recently stated that there are people buying pangas in Kibera. So who did the IG report to such an incidence.

When a CJ, even if its Bernard Chunga, God rest his soul, makes such a statement, think very very hard and don't let your politics and emotions cloud the statement.

As for Yekeyeke, I don't discuss issues with people with obvious emotional issues.

I prefer good political banter with the likes of much know et al. But you on the other hand need serious healing hands.

This is not a political issue, it is a security issue and everyone with a family they care for should take it very very very seriously.

What is worrying me is how one political outfit has taken it upon itself to deny that what the CJ is saying is true. Now that is very worrying.


Even when Kibunja and the IG talked about land being emotive they aere applauded in wazua!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Tokyo
#47 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:43:18 PM
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I heard activists never make good leaders. He is smart but behaving like a kid.
work to prosper
McReggae
#48 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:45:30 PM
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To conclude on my part: Very bad day for njumbiree.....chasing demons all over the place!!!!!

.....time for them to go back to reading 'the kenya daily post'
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Liv
#49 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:48:07 PM
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http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000077719&story_title=Kenya-CJ-threatened-over-Uhuru,-Ruto-case


NAIROBI, KENYA: Chief Justice Willy Mutunga on Wednesday said he has received death threats over an integrity lawsuit against Jubilee presidential candidate Uhuru Kenyatta and his running mate William Ruto.

Dr Mutunga said he received a poison-pen letter from a group claiming to be the outlawed Mungiki sect warning him against issuing a ruling against the two leaders. He said the letter, dated February 13, was signed from the ‘Mungiki Veteran Group/ Kenya Sovereignty Defence Squad'.

It is not established whether the letter came from Mungiki, supporters of the two Jubilee leaders or political rivals using it as a black propaganda attack. Black propaganda is false information that purports to be from a source on one side of a conflict, but is actually from the opposing side. It is typically used to vilify, embarrass or misrepresent a rival.

The letter, Mutunga said, extols the violent exploits of the Mungiki movement and threaten him with dire consequences should he deliver a ruling detrimental to Uhuru and Ruto.

The CJ said the judiciary will not flinch in interpreting the Constitution as required. He added he has invested heavily in creating a new Judiciary in the last one and a half years for him to be cowed by threats.

“Let no individual, group, candidate or supporter imagine that cowardly and dark acts such as this will cower us,” he said.

He said he has sent the letter to Inspector General of Police David Kimaiyo, CID Director Ndegwa Muhoro and the Director of Public Prosecution Keriako Tobiko for investigations. He at the same time asked Kimaiyo to beef up his security and that of judges in view of the threat.

While the Mungiki movement has it roots in Uhuru's ethnic community, he has repeatedly sought to distance himself from them. In recent months, Mungiki leaders have pledged support for Uhuru's rivals in the CORD alliance.
McReggae
#50 Posted : Wednesday, February 20, 2013 2:54:52 PM
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People forget that the main body of this thread is interefereance of Kimemia and the state in the affairs of the judiciary.....they all descend on the supposed letter!!!!

.......can the defenders now tell us about Kimemia and the state indimidation????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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