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Liv
#41 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 4:20:10 PM
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McReggae wrote:
The risk of ICC......to who????


Consider "risk" in the more wider / general definition
Liv
#42 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 4:22:08 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Rather than all these individual-centric debates taht are clearly not leading us anywhere, methinks it would be better to and far more beneficial for Kenya if we discussed where Kenya needs/ wants to go, the roadmap to that level (read middle income country), then the qualities of the kind of leader who would be best suited to lead us to that level. Then we can start tickin off the current candidates' qualities against this checklist, no?
That way, even if our famed ethnic bigotry glasses come on, at least a criterion is there against which to evaluate the candidates suitability for State Hse. Ama?



I support.... please start us off.
Um Sayala
#43 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 4:22:48 PM
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Intelligentsia wrote:
Rather than all these individual-centric debates taht are clearly not leading us anywhere, methinks it would be better to and far more beneficial for Kenya if we discussed where Kenya needs/ wants to go, the roadmap to that level (read middle income country), then the qualities of the kind of leader who would be best suited to lead us to that level. Then we can start tickin off the current candidates' qualities against this checklist, no?
That way, even if our famed ethnic bigotry glasses come on, at least a criterion is there against which to evaluate the candidates suitability for State Hse. Ama?


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AlphDoti
#44 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 4:23:24 PM
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Liv wrote:
McReggae wrote:
The risk of ICC......to who????


Consider "risk" in the more wider / general definition

@Liv you seem to have vested interest. Why? Or are you one of them?
FRM2011
#45 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 7:50:49 PM
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Um Sayala wrote:
@Liv .The red highliged part is just a small section of a whole phrase...paragraph actually.
May be we need to go back to our english teachers, or could you explain slowly what this para mean...among others that i responded to in my first post above?
"The country will be more divided, this can results(sic) in more animosity between tribes, will Kenya continue being governable? How will the rift valley people be reconciled?"

slowly,no emotions.


Slowly gentlemen, i think @liv is passionately trying to tell us something here. Judging by the level of passion and zeal, my bet is that he is an insider in the uhuruto axis of evil. And he has given us a chance to understand the mindset of those two suspects. You may call their strategy desperate, pathetic, suicidal but they are cornered and they know the charade they are putting up will have to come to an end soon. Its the only thing left to do.

Back to wazua, i offer to do the translation for @ liv. Bro, feel free to write in the language you use during the strategy meetings, i will translate here for free. Hoping the minor lexical differences between the kiambu and nyeri dialects will not come in the way.
simonkabz
#46 Posted : Friday, November 23, 2012 8:51:04 PM
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btw, I believe tunawesmake, not because I don't like Uhuruto n their tribal crap, but coz he has proven himself as an excellent manager. Kenya does not really need a LEADER per se, as all of them are, n have been ethnic kingpins. A good manager will automatically transform to a good leader by DEFAULT! Kibaki is only a fair manager, fairly liked accross the nation. This degree of liking translates to fair leadership. Uhunye doesn't come anywhere close, less the kikuyu nation. This is our home. Lets be patriotic pipo.
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heavenly body
#47 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 6:30:57 PM
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Good to be back and see constructive & deconstructive debates still the norm. Where did George Sorros go, I wonder? the ardent supporter of RAO.

If I recall, GS spelt doom for Kenya if Kibs won 2007 elections. Similar insinuations are being spelt out here at the thought of UK taking the mantle. After five years, arguments still run along the same lines.
Lolest!
#48 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:13:32 PM
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This is the problem of having an election which is based on a previous election.
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McReggae
#49 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 8:19:32 PM
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Seriously @Lolest, where else do we base it????
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Lolest!
#50 Posted : Sunday, November 25, 2012 9:16:15 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Seriously @Lolest, where else do we base it????

We clearly dont have any issues to discuss or we are convinced that these guys are all the same. I am a culprit too. I have misgivings about the role of not just UHURUTO but also RAO in the chaos that engulfed the nation after the elections.
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