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Mudavadi mulls quitting ODM -
pariah
#81 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:25:45 PM
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Goldenberg beneficiary is all i see when I hear MM, Thank God his political career is on autopilot destined to self destruction,
pariah
#82 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:31:29 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
Manyala wrote:
Mudavadi quiting ODM?
Why can't he make up his mind, ama he is just playing politics?
Cannot make his own decision; he has to consult?
Consulting only Western Kenya MPs? Thought he was a national figure? Just confirming he is one of them!

Me thinks he is making a big mistake, just as he did in 2002


What's the difference between Moodavadi and Watermelon?


the difference is the same, they are both KANU/MOI orphans, both dont have an agenda, both have been in govt forever, ........
pariah
#83 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:44:38 PM
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wazuaguest wrote:
www.nation.co.ke/News/politics/Mudavadi+in+secret+talks+with+Balala+and+Kenneth/-/1064/1387788/-/y3ajj4/-/index.html

if MM plays his cards right he will be Kenya 4th President. between PK and Najibu I would advice him to choose Pk as running mate coz he would offer a link to the diaspora vote (he has had so many trips there hope he has established a network ) and he connects very well with twitter /FB generation, they should steer away from tribal politics kabisa. the G2 should join MM and not the other way round!



you are mistaken to think kenyans in the diaspora are not a tribal lot, in my experience they are as bigoted as your average kenyan. They will vote along tribal lines (most of them) just as the rest of Kenya, twitter and monthly trips wont change much
TiggerTiggy
#84 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:50:39 PM
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pariah wrote:
Goldenberg beneficiary is all i see when I hear MM, Thank God his political career is on autopilot destined to self destruction,

thats a mighty serious allegation you are making. can you back it up?
pariah
#85 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:50:58 PM
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B.Timer wrote:

Isaac Rutto IS A Kipsigis too.

William Ruto commands a comfortable following amongst the Kipsigis period!

What I am not sure of is the reaction of the entire Kalenjin nation, in the event that Ruto asks them to vote for Uhuru.

That must remain the achilles heel!



that will simply not happen, if WR is not on the ballot in round 1 he is toast
pariah
#86 Posted : Wednesday, April 18, 2012 11:52:34 PM
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TiggerTiggy wrote:
pariah wrote:
Goldenberg beneficiary is all i see when I hear MM, Thank God his political career is on autopilot destined to self destruction,

thats a mighty serious allegation you are making. can you back it up?


Please correct me if I am wrong, finance ministers around Goldenberg times include saitoti, Mudavadi and Okemo.
TiggerTiggy
#87 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 7:05:16 AM
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pariah wrote:
TiggerTiggy wrote:
pariah wrote:
Goldenberg beneficiary is all i see when I hear MM, Thank God his political career is on autopilot destined to self destruction,

thats a mighty serious allegation you are making. can you back it up?


Please correct me if I am wrong, finance ministers around Goldenberg times include saitoti, Mudavadi and Okemo.

doesnt mean they were beneficiaries. MM was never hauled before any court over the scam. ever heard of defamation?
pariah
#88 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:16:31 AM
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McReggae wrote:
.....looks like the dude will eventually be the G7 candidate, si atoke tu Akaranga akarange yeye tena!!!


ditto
pariah
#89 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:18:07 AM
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TiggerTiggy wrote:
pariah wrote:
TiggerTiggy wrote:
pariah wrote:
Goldenberg beneficiary is all i see when I hear MM, Thank God his political career is on autopilot destined to self destruction,

thats a mighty serious allegation you are making. can you back it up?


Please correct me if I am wrong, finance ministers around Goldenberg times include saitoti, Mudavadi and Okemo.

doesnt mean they were beneficiaries. MM was never hauled before any court over the scam. ever heard of defamation?


tell that to the birds at the cemetery
Lolest!
#90 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 9:30:52 AM
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pariah wrote:
McReggae wrote:
.....looks like the dude will eventually be the G7 candidate, si atoke tu Akaranga akarange yeye tena!!!


ditto


The new constitution people! The president cannot be an MP, remember? So Mudavadi can get 2 votes in Sabatia and still be President(2 votes ni yake na ya bibi)
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Impunity
#91 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:01:44 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
pariah wrote:
McReggae wrote:
.....looks like the dude will eventually be the G7 candidate, si atoke tu Akaranga akarange yeye tena!!!


ditto


The new constitution people! The president cannot be an MP, remember? So Mudavadi can get 2 votes in Sabatia and still be President(2 votes ni yake na ya bibi)


What is the name of Akaranga's party by the way?
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

madollar
#92 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:17:26 AM
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seems like oketch kendo one of kenyas top political commentators is still in denial regarding MM move

http://www.standardmedia...0056546&cid=510&
FundamentAli
#93 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:29:35 AM
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kollabo wrote:
Let me attempt a quick SWOT of this guy;

Strengths - Affable personality has not offended many, Luyia community 2nd largest voting block, Still young appeals to youth, Has family links to RVP hence easy to sell (some say thro retired prez), Has inside knowledge of RAO's workings,

Weaknesses - Not a very good orator, poor debater, performance wanting in local govts (get rid of Kisia), no experience in presidential campaign, lacks financial clout, Busia/Teso/BTR-MMS still tight with RAO, negative public image of a "blunderer" after '02, also reportedly over indulges the brown bottle

Opportunities - Best compromise candidate since (UK & WSR are out legally speaking), can be sold in both RVP and Mt K region, Would be a strong contender at runoff

Threats - Historical disunity among luyias,

Do you work for MM's think tank?
kollabo
#94 Posted : Thursday, April 19, 2012 12:04:04 PM
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FundamentAli wrote:
kollabo wrote:
Let me attempt a quick SWOT of this guy;

Strengths - Affable personality has not offended many, Luyia community 2nd largest voting block, Still young appeals to youth, Has family links to RVP hence easy to sell (some say thro retired prez), Has inside knowledge of RAO's workings,

Weaknesses - Not a very good orator, poor debater, performance wanting in local govts (get rid of Kisia), no experience in presidential campaign, lacks financial clout, Busia/Teso/BTR-MMS still tight with RAO, negative public image of a "blunderer" after '02, also reportedly over indulges the brown bottle

Opportunities - Best compromise candidate since (UK & WSR are out legally speaking), can be sold in both RVP and Mt K region, Would be a strong contender at runoff

Threats - Historical disunity among luyias,

Do you work for MM's think tank?


Nope! Just a simple voter doing my homework
McReggae
#95 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 11:17:15 AM
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This morning, there is so much activity between Orange House, the PM's office and the DPM's office. A day is such a long time in politics! Mudavadi has changed his mind about leaving the party! And is negotiating for a 'soft landing' back to the ODM mainstream, to avoid being seen as indecisive!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Jump-steady
#96 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 11:44:33 AM
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McReggae wrote:
This morning, there is so much activity between Orange House, the PM's office and the DPM's office. A day is such a long time in politics! Mudavadi has changed his mind about leaving the party! And is negotiating for a 'soft landing' back to the ODM mainstream, to avoid being seen as indecisive!


Good for him, i was feeling pity for the man. He looked confused more like a fish out the water.d'oh!
Rahatupu
#97 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 11:46:24 AM
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Rahatupu wrote:
Mo wrote:
this is how the game get's to a checkmate; mudavadi picks (whoever except peter ken so as not to anatagonize the prince) rao goes for (let's say peter ken) and martha as always sticks her guns. using that scenario, the gema who always go for their own get confused! and split into 3 splinter groups
1. the muthamaki camp for moo davadi
2. the martha camp
3. the rao camp in symphathy of peter ken
Those will be the 3 front runners...remind me of this thread in dec 2012.



What is the implication of the fresh start of the Goldenberg cases on MM? The scenario is changing so fast, free advise to MM: avoid Kaluki at all costs, Balaa does not have a solid constituency. Bargain for the running mate status out of RAO, this could be the best bet by now, make an MoU with RAO on 1 term only. This can be extracted at the moment.
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This MM fellow is so indecisive, now the opportunity I advised on may as well have slipped away. Take Gumo's advise kaa ngumu kama mwanaume. BTW did you watch Gumo last evening on Citizen?
B.Timer
#98 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 11:47:26 AM
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Jump-steady wrote:
McReggae wrote:
This morning, there is so much activity between Orange House, the PM's office and the DPM's office. A day is such a long time in politics! Mudavadi has changed his mind about leaving the party! And is negotiating for a 'soft landing' back to the ODM mainstream, to avoid being seen as indecisive!


Good for him, i was feeling pity for the man. He looked confused more like a fish out the water.d'oh!


Aiii!

How about this:

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/hsm0tvz/-/index.html

Methinks he has reached a point of no return!

Lets wait though!
Dunia ni msongamano..
madollar
#99 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 12:01:25 PM
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he posted this on his facebook page today

It is about uniting a polarized Kenya so as to drive the practice of politics into constructive policies & programs for the nation. We cannot be in a state of political agitation incessantly.

http://www.facebook.com/...nd-2012/123182861072147

@btimer am with you on this one no way after all the effort na matusi ya gumo
McReggae
#100 Posted : Friday, April 20, 2012 12:06:48 PM
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It's wait and see for spectators, but with more than half of the ODM MPs from western seemingly not with him, the interest from G2 will certainly reduce......MM might be back to 2002!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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