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A Car or A House?
obiero
#41 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:11:12 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,267
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will come later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
newfarer
#42 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:56:00 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground
punda amecheka
sparkly
#43 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:57:43 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Make the distinction between LAND and HOUSE. Land generally appreciates over time because of scarcity. A house is an improvement on land. A house depreciates hence why you carry out repairs and maintenance!
Life is short. Live passionately.
newfarer
#44 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:17:44 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Make the distinction between LAND and HOUSE. Land generally appreciates over time because of scarcity. A house is an improvement on land. A house depreciates hence why you carry out repairs and maintenance!


No house without land..unless we are talking of a green house without a roof. The cost of repairs can never match the appreciation of land on which the house is sitting on.
punda amecheka
sparkly
#45 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:29:54 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Make the distinction between LAND and HOUSE. Land generally appreciates over time because of scarcity. A house is an improvement on land. A house depreciates hence why you carry out repairs and maintenance!


No house without land..unless we are talking of a green house without a roof. The cost of repairs can never match the appreciation of land on which the house is sitting on.


Complicating the argument makes you sound smarter but the FACT is that land appreciates, houses depreciate.
Life is short. Live passionately.
amorphous
#46 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:35:32 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/15/2019
Posts: 687
Location: planet earth
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Make the distinction between LAND and HOUSE. Land generally appreciates over time because of scarcity. A house is an improvement on land. A house depreciates hence why you carry out repairs and maintenance!


No house without land..unless we are talking of a green house without a roof. The cost of repairs can never match the appreciation of land on which the house is sitting on.



Sparkly is illiterate on these matters, do not waste your time on him. Ni mtu wa maringo, kujibeba na ujuaji yet says nothing of substance.

@op buy your flashy car first then drive your way straight into the poorhouse like my good buddy who bought a prado around 2010 na hana kitu to date. Clutch replacement alone is 140k.insurance 250k. Broke totally and very bewildered at how us mkebe drivers are building houses and apartments everywhere despite earning way less than him monthly.
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
obiero
#47 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 11:51:14 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,267
Location: nairobi
amorphous wrote:
newfarer wrote:
sparkly wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Make the distinction between LAND and HOUSE. Land generally appreciates over time because of scarcity. A house is an improvement on land. A house depreciates hence why you carry out repairs and maintenance!


No house without land..unless we are talking of a green house without a roof. The cost of repairs can never match the appreciation of land on which the house is sitting on.



Sparkly is illiterate on these matters, do not waste your time on him. Ni mtu wa maringo, kujibeba na ujuaji yet says nothing of substance.

@op buy your flashy car first then drive your way straight into the poorhouse like my good buddy who bought a prado around 2010 na hana kitu to date. Clutch replacement alone is 140k.insurance 250k. Broke totally and very bewildered at how us mkebe drivers are building houses and apartments everywhere despite earning way less than him monthly.

True. Cars are just status symbols. Best to go for a house first
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
sqft
#48 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:16:21 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 961
Location: Kenya
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Its the land on which the house stands that appreciates, otherwise its true a building can become derelict and even become uninhabitable and need demolition, but the land remains valuable. The plot can also be redeveloped to make one even more money. That is why houses built on own plots appreciate faster than apartments which are built on communal unsalable land. You have all seen those neglected bungalows sitting on land worth hundreds of millions in upmarket areas of nairobi. The structure could be worth 0.5m but the land is worth 500m.

Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
obiero
#49 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:32:07 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,267
Location: nairobi
sqft wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Its the land on which the house stands that appreciates, otherwise its true a building can become derelict and even become uninhabitable and need demolition, but the land remains valuable. The plot can also be redeveloped to make one even more money. That is why houses built on own plots appreciate faster than apartments which are built on communal unsalable land. You have all seen those neglected bungalows sitting on land worth hundreds of millions in upmarket areas of nairobi. The structure could be worth 0.5m but the land is worth 500m.


Semantics. The question was a car or house.. Tufungue thread ingine ya land or house
COOP, IMH, KQ, MTNU
amorphous
#50 Posted : Sunday, April 12, 2020 12:36:32 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/15/2019
Posts: 687
Location: planet earth
sqft wrote:
newfarer wrote:
obiero wrote:
sparkly wrote:
NewMoney wrote:
newfarer wrote:
emlyn ngwiri wrote:
as investors, its always good to invest in appreciating assets.

a car is depreciating while a house will always appreciate even though it is in mandera.

get the house then the car will done later

Good advice given 9 years ago .hope as many wazuans took it.


Actually it's a very bad advice. First of all, many first car buyers' budget can not get any worthy house, maybe some plot in the deep outskirts. If you can afford a house, you can definitely afford to get both at the same time

For a small minority, it can make sense to get the house first (e.g interested in living in the deep outskirts or small towns) but for the rest of us, a car is better to have before the house. It worked for me and many others.


A house is also a depreciating asset.

Wewe ulisomea wapi. I am interested in your world views

Hata Mimi nataka kuonyeshwa nyumba moja imedepreciate in the last 10 years in Kenya. Factually .as in kwa ground


Its the land on which the house stands that appreciates, otherwise its true a building can become derelict and even become uninhabitable and need demolition, but the land remains valuable. The plot can also be redeveloped to make one even more money. That is why houses built on own plots appreciate faster than apartments which are built on communal unsalable land. You have all seen those neglected bungalows sitting on land worth hundreds of millions in upmarket areas of nairobi. The structure could be worth 0.5m but the land is worth 500m.



Very funny! So if sqft bought a 1/4 acre plot in Syokimau, Katani Rd in 2015 for 4m, built a 15m maisonette on it (market price) and then sold it for 20m in 2020 when the price of 1/4 is 6m, the bulk of the capital gain is from the "land appreciation" alone sio? Laughing out loudly
In the final analysis, it all boils down to sheer plain old hard work and dogged persistence. Nothing more, nothing less!!
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