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NASA moves to the Supreme Court
Flo-ology
#481 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:03:38 PM
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Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.
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Ngalaka
#482 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:27:31 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.

A better way, and I suspect the court may move in that direction, is to take it upon itself as a court to have court appointed experts to look into the IEBC systems as they stand today, and give a report to the court on whatever findings under the circumstances, as well as highlighting what is practicable and what is not in line with the request before it.
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Bigchick
#483 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:28:47 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.



Fishing in River Nyando.

The elections results are based on Form 34A and 34B and 34C which are not digital but hard copies written by hand and signed by hand then scanned to the tallying centre.

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#484 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 1:33:11 PM
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Is it me or are Citizens of the Virtual Republic suddenly posting in clear, coherent, and likable English?

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#485 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:04:44 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.


The challenge is that the petitioner is the one with the burden of proof to prove fraud and present evidence. That makes it hard for the petitioner and it seems the aim of IEBC and UMK team is to proof that is not possible given time.

It like when you notice cash is missing from your Mpesa acct and then demand Safcom to allow you access t0 check their servers and identify when your chums dissipated to to!
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kaifastus
#486 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:15:06 PM
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Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.

People just don't get it! Even if they get access to servers they will ask for something else, again and again.Finally there's something that will be impossible to provide,after which they will continue singing songs. remember hassan,chebukati etc etc. A never ending story. Its a pity really that a section of the population believes without question that election was stolen. This fuels tribal hate.
Ngalaka
#487 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:30:21 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.



Fishing in River Nyando.

The elections results are based on Form 34A and 34B and 34C which are not digital but hard copies written by hand and signed by hand then scanned to the tallying centre.

You see what the wily foxes of kina Orengo are alleging is that Chebukati & co somehow got rid of the real/original forms 34As AND 34Bs and created a fresh lot in order to rig Uhuru in!

They content that the real/original forms that were sent in real time, contain the real results that are in their favour.
Then kina Chebukati realising that ‘their candidate’ – Uhuru had lost, conspired to manufacture alternative forms which is what they have brought to court. Of course this means that even the hard copy original 34As and 34Bs as held by IEBC are not good enough for the NASA team.

Of course there is still the issue of ‘hacking’ and computer generated vifarangas – blah blah blah. Net effect, everything is just one big mess.

So there was no election, - solution nusu Mkate.
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thuks
#488 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 2:59:48 PM
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Ngalaka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.



Fishing in River Nyando.

The elections results are based on Form 34A and 34B and 34C which are not digital but hard copies written by hand and signed by hand then scanned to the tallying centre.

You see what the wily foxes of kina Orengo are alleging is that Chebukati & co somehow got rid of the real/original forms 34As AND 34Bs and created a fresh lot in order to rig Uhuru in!

They content that the real/original forms that were sent in real time, contain the real results that are in their favour.
Then kina Chebukati realising that ‘their candidate’ – Uhuru had lost, conspired to manufacture alternative forms which is what they have brought to court. Of course this means that even the hard copy original 34As and 34Bs as held by IEBC are not good enough for the NASA team.

Of course there is still the issue of ‘hacking’ and computer generated vifarangas – blah blah blah. Net effect, everything is just one big mess.

So there was no election, - solution nusu Mkate.

Wish NASA well with that line. But sc can only order a fresh election not a nusu mkate
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Flo-ology
#489 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 3:20:53 PM
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thuks wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
Quick question: why can't IEBC just give NASA access to the servers. This will rest the case, unless something fishy happened. Looks like this case is hinged on server access. Also Orengo told IEBC during results transmission that they would accepts results if they were given access to the servers.



Fishing in River Nyando.

The elections results are based on Form 34A and 34B and 34C which are not digital but hard copies written by hand and signed by hand then scanned to the tallying centre.

You see what the wily foxes of kina Orengo are alleging is that Chebukati & co somehow got rid of the real/original forms 34As AND 34Bs and created a fresh lot in order to rig Uhuru in!

They content that the real/original forms that were sent in real time, contain the real results that are in their favour.
Then kina Chebukati realising that ‘their candidate’ – Uhuru had lost, conspired to manufacture alternative forms which is what they have brought to court. Of course this means that even the hard copy original 34As and 34Bs as held by IEBC are not good enough for the NASA team.

Of course there is still the issue of ‘hacking’ and computer generated vifarangas – blah blah blah. Net effect, everything is just one big mess.

So there was no election, - solution nusu Mkate.

Wish NASA well with that line. But sc can only order a fresh election not a nusu mkate


Nusu Mkate is a pipe dream for NASA if that is their intent with the case or rejection of results. I support Ngalaka opinion that Supreme Court should independently look at "access to the servers " and rest this case after which NASA can go yap and cry all they want since it would have been proved that all they want was nusu mkate by all means.
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Flo-ology
#490 Posted : Sunday, August 27, 2017 3:37:54 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Shak wrote:
Looking forward to watching star lawyer, Fred Ngatia shred their evidence to pieces


Also get money to finish his mammoth building hapo 'Community' smile


Ngatia is polished. Took time to listen to him and Grand Mulla and was wowed. Though, Grand mulla has a long way to go to prove his Senior Counsel title, otherwise I doubt it.
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