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Obi 1 Kanobi
#481 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:16:04 PM
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kaka2za wrote:
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?

Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol


This was the 2013 elections results
https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf

Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord.

I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel.

The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss.


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One word, TRUMP!!!
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ecstacy
#482 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:23:52 PM
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NASA and effectively Raila Odinga failed Nairobians by 'giving' Evans Kidero a DIRECT nomination to run for the Nairobi Gov ticket on a ODM ticket. These party primaries were useful in sorting in-house issues that negatively impact the wider Kenyan sphere. Is there ANY Nairobian who really wanted Kidero to return as governor?

After 'probably' taking Kidero's ill gotten money in return for a direct ODM nomination for Nairobi, there is no way Raila can effectively run on an anti-corruption agenda.

Add Mombasa, Kilifi etc. No TRUMP in Raila. Dida has a higher chance of being a TRUMP.
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Njung'e
#483 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 4:01:12 PM
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ecstacy wrote:
NASA and effectively Raila Odinga failed Nairobians by 'giving' Evans Kidero a DIRECT nomination to run for the Nairobi Gov ticket on a ODM ticket. These party primaries were useful in sorting in-house issues that negatively impact the wider Kenyan sphere. Is there ANY Nairobian who really wanted Kidero to return as governor?

After 'probably' taking Kidero's ill gotten money in return for a direct ODM nomination for Nairobi, there is no way Raila can effectively run on an anti-corruption agenda.

Add Mombasa, Kilifi etc. No TRUMP in Raila. Dida has a higher chance of being a TRUMP.



Kidero booed and chased away in Eastleigh.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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FRM2011
#484 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:45:53 PM
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One is on a weekday convened by an opposition leader, the other one is on a public holiday convened by the president.
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FRM2011
#485 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:47:41 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:


One is on a weekday convened by an opposition leader, the other one is on a public holiday convened by the president.
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Bigchick
#486 Posted : Wednesday, May 24, 2017 8:54:06 PM
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When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people.
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Realtreaty
#487 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 11:51:15 AM
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Jump-steady
#488 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 1:52:19 PM
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Bigchick wrote:
When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people.

smile

I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong.
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FRM2011
#489 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:21:11 PM
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Jump-steady wrote:
Bigchick wrote:
When is IEBC releasing the final cleaned up tally of registered voters.We need it to knock some facts to some people.

smile

I would also like to see where @FRM2011 derives his 10M strong.


Like I said in another post, Rao won in 26 counties in 2013. If we remove the 4 Luo Nyanza counties and 3 kamba counties, it's clear Kenyans from 19 counties voted for Rao the man without tribal consideration.

For Uhuru, outside the Gema and kalenjin vote bloc, only Mandera voted for him.

No matter how the cleaned up register looks like, NASA is unbeatable.

Should Meru, Baringo, Pokot and Bomet vote the way we think they will........... As our people say, "reke ciume na ene".
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Lolest!
#490 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:38:38 PM
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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
As at 20/05/2017, feelings aside, does anyone really believe ex-PM Raila will beat incumbent Kenyan President Uhuru Kenyatta?

Does Raila Odinga himself really believe he will beat Uhuru Kenyatta in 2017? Lol


This was the 2013 elections results (From page 129)
https://www.cartercenter.../kenya-final-101613.pdf

Over the last 5 years, nothing has changed, each side retains their 2013 strong holds, the fight will be over the swing votes which mostly were won by Cord.

I know the chorus here has changed as the conversation is mostly one sided but that doesn't mean the other silent side has thrown in the towel.

The Uhuruto govt did not deliver on any of their promises, as long as NASA packages their fight in a coherent way, it should be a coin toss.

Seems I'm the only one who didn't take the duo seriously on their 'promises'

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