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Is CS Waiguru impeachable?
Queen
#471 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:11:46 PM
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sqft wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Senate team starts hearing Waiguru impeachment case


By WANJOHI GITHAE

REFUNDED ALL THE MONIES

In her defence, the governor says she refunded all the monies that had been reimbursed to her.

“Allowances and imprests for the cancelled official functions were duly refunded to the county government in compliance with relevant public officer policies and regulations,” reads the response.

Ms Waiguru returned the money after the impeachment motion was tabled in the county assembly.

Source: The Nation : https://www.nation.co.ke...impeachment-case-734638


Many public servants have pending imprests. What happens when you do not account for the money is that the cash is deducted from your salary. An unaccounted for imprest or allowance is no ground for firing an employee or impeaching someone.

If you read the auditor generals reports the issue of unaccounted imprests is always there. Sometimes govt officers take imprests to attend meetings/functions but the meetings may be cancelled or vehicles are unavailable. A governor may take an imprest to attend a meeting abroad then something more urgent comes up eg the president is touring your county and you have to cancel the foreign trip or covid 19 happens.

An imprest is no ground for impeachment.


You have offered a good explanation on the intricacies of imprests. You have however "forgotten" to mention that it is illegal to take an imprest before surrendering the previous one. Her excellency the governor (as mahegoat would call her) took the imprests in question in several tranches. The fact that she "returned" the money that late in the day implies that something fishy had happened.
Angelica _ann
#472 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:12:35 PM
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What was the ruling about the new evidence the assembly wanted to produce, I missed that?
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PeterReborn
#473 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:14:11 PM
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Queen wrote:
sqft wrote:
aemathenge wrote:
Senate team starts hearing Waiguru impeachment case


By WANJOHI GITHAE

REFUNDED ALL THE MONIES

In her defence, the governor says she refunded all the monies that had been reimbursed to her.

“Allowances and imprests for the cancelled official functions were duly refunded to the county government in compliance with relevant public officer policies and regulations,” reads the response.

Ms Waiguru returned the money after the impeachment motion was tabled in the county assembly.

Source: The Nation : https://www.nation.co.ke...impeachment-case-734638


Many public servants have pending imprests. What happens when you do not account for the money is that the cash is deducted from your salary. An unaccounted for imprest or allowance is no ground for firing an employee or impeaching someone.

If you read the auditor generals reports the issue of unaccounted imprests is always there. Sometimes govt officers take imprests to attend meetings/functions but the meetings may be cancelled or vehicles are unavailable. A governor may take an imprest to attend a meeting abroad then something more urgent comes up eg the president is touring your county and you have to cancel the foreign trip or covid 19 happens.

An imprest is no ground for impeachment.


You have offered a good explanation on the intricacies of imprests. You have however "forgotten" to mention that it is illegal to take an imprest before surrendering the previous one. Her excellency the governor (as mahegoat would call her) took the imprests in question in several tranches. The fact that she "returned" the money that late in the day implies that something fishy had happened.

Just like the goldenburg scandal when Kiraitu said there was no money lostsmile
Consistency is better than intensity
Queen
#474 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 2:26:37 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
What was the ruling about the new evidence the assembly wanted to produce, I missed that?


They have allowed it to be introduced but with conditions.
Angelica _ann
#475 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 3:40:22 PM
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Queen wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What was the ruling about the new evidence the assembly wanted to produce, I missed that?


They have allowed it to be introduced but with conditions.


Thanks. The assembly lawyers are very disorganized!!!
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
Queen
#476 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 3:46:24 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Queen wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What was the ruling about the new evidence the assembly wanted to produce, I missed that?


They have allowed it to be introduced but with conditions.


Thanks. The assembly lawyers are very disorganized!!!


Very disorganized. I think they only have one lawyer, Ndegwa.
Gathige
#477 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 8:26:40 PM
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Angelica _ann wrote:
Queen wrote:
Angelica _ann wrote:
What was the ruling about the new evidence the assembly wanted to produce, I missed that?


They have allowed it to be introduced but with conditions.


Thanks. The assembly lawyers are very disorganized!!!



The deep state is very organized when it comes to theft issues. The senate will finally discharge her with "no money was lost".
"Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
limanika
#478 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:08:34 PM
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If justice is not seen to be done, this will breed resentment against the bigwigs as perception on the ground is that the they are responsible
sqft
#479 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:59:20 PM
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Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
murchr
#480 Posted : Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:25:27 PM
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