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When is the Next NSE Bus Leaving the Stage
kaifastus
#461 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 12:50:04 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
kenmac wrote:
Time to buy is coming. Time to be keen with the market.
low bargains likely from

Dec 15-January 15

and

Feb 20 - March 10


Hefty bonuses expected in the account soon. The question now is, what to (short-term)buy?

Prophets, where are you?


The good stocks are not cheap ie EABL, NMG, BAT, ARM, Safcom. Banks cheap on PE valuations but expensive in absolute terms, likely to go down unless the market rises.

for now hold cash and wait for discounts on the good stocks. If you must buy, you might consider Kengen, HF, Centum, KQ, CFC.

...I remember back towards the end of of 2011,when sacom traded at 2.8 range...at the height of negativity,nobody wanted to buy the stock here in wazua...some even called it a Ksh 2 stock...funny how things change. I think most wazuans are trend followers...instead of buying at the height of negativity at rock bottom prices.


You were in wazua then...you seriously remind me of someone!
dunkang
#462 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 2:38:07 PM
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kaifastus wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:

...I remember back towards the end of of 2011,when sacom traded at 2.8 range...at the height of negativity,nobody wanted to buy the stock here in wazua...some even called it a Ksh 2 stock...funny how things change. I think most wazuans are trend followers...instead of buying at the height of negativity at rock bottom prices.


You were in wazua then...you seriously remind me of someone!


Me too think he is familiar.

My last bunch of Safcom shares i bought at 2.90/-. Sweet sweet Memory. That Equity bank guy at the custodial desk Marsabit town thought i was mad and even tried to 'educate' me on stocks trading.
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S.Mutaga III
#463 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 6:03:47 PM
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dunkang wrote:
kaifastus wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:

...I remember back towards the end of of 2011,when sacom traded at 2.8 range...at the height of negativity,nobody wanted to buy the stock here in wazua...some even called it a Ksh 2 stock...funny how things change. I think most wazuans are trend followers...instead of buying at the height of negativity at rock bottom prices.


You were in wazua then...you seriously remind me of someone!


Me too think he is familiar.

My last bunch of Safcom shares i bought at 2.90/-. Sweet sweet Memory. That Equity bank guy at the custodial desk Marsabit town thought i was mad and even tried to 'educate' me on stocks trading.

I remember an equity broker advising me not to catch a falling knife,at that time pan africa had a dividend yield of above 10% and a p/e of 2...at around ksh 19...I told him to excecute the order and shut the f*** up...when I went to cash in those Pan Africa shares last week,he asked me for advice...haha!
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
sentinel prime
#464 Posted : Sunday, December 16, 2012 7:08:11 PM
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lol!!! wazuans trendfollowers?? I think more of herd followers....they seem similar but they ain't.

the herd followers don't cut their losses quick and suffer from disposition effect.

any breakout traders in wazua? most guys here are fundamental traders,tried it but found it almost impossible to consistently profit from it.

I consider myself a trendfollower trading long-term breakouts 80+ days with loose % trailing stops.

with clever pyramiding you will blow away all buy and holders with half as much drawdowns....go figure
mwekez@ji
#465 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:44:44 AM
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sentinel prime wrote:
with clever pyramiding you will blow away all buy and holders with half as much drawdowns....go figure


d'oh! Think d'oh! , @hisah, @the deal, @techboy, et al #?
mwekez@ji
#466 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 10:50:52 AM
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@sentinel prime, if you may, whats your buy/hold/sell list
hisah
#467 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 4:05:57 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
sentinel prime wrote:
with clever pyramiding you will blow away all buy and holders with half as much drawdowns....go figure


d'oh! Think d'oh! , @hisah, @the deal, @techboy, et al #?

Buying on long timeframe breakouts as long the trend keeps up and doing the opposite on breakdowns.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
King G
#468 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 5:06:09 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
sentinel prime wrote:
with clever pyramiding you will blow away all buy and holders with half as much drawdowns....go finger


d'oh! Think d'oh! , @hisah, @the deal, @techboy, et al #?


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sentinel prime
#469 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:04:52 PM
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King G wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
[quote=sentinel prime]with clever pyramiding you will blow away all buy and holders with half as much drawdowns....go finger [/quo
te]

d'oh! Think d'oh! , @hisah, @the deal, @techboy, et al #?


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


lol...breakouts have been traded since time beginning,the style is as old as the market.

basically you buy on n-day breakout.The longer the n-day the more robust the Breakout.

for a market like NSE where the commissions are atrocious you need to trade 4-12 months or more breakouts to overcome costs and market noise.

pyramiding is just adding more as the trade progresses higher preferably after pullbacks.The mental % trailing stop( not less than 25% or below higher low point ) has to be adjusted upwards /tightened to reduce the increased exposure and since there is no leverage in the NSE the danger of heavy losses way past your stop loss point is remote.

You have to overcome your human biases to trade this way.cut your losses quick and ride your winners sounds so cliche but its the only way.

there is so much more material on this but this is the basic structure.
maka
#470 Posted : Monday, December 17, 2012 6:08:37 PM
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sparkly wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
kenmac wrote:
Time to buy is coming. Time to be keen with the market.
low bargains likely from

Dec 15-January 15

and

Feb 20 - March 10


Hefty bonuses expected in the account soon. The question now is, what to (short-term)buy?

Prophets, where are you?


The good stocks are not cheap ie EABL, NMG, BAT, ARM, Safcom. Banks cheap on PE valuations but expensive in absolute terms, likely to go down unless the market rises.

for now hold cash and wait for discounts on the good stocks. If you must buy, you might consider Kengen, HF, Centum, KQ, CFC.

..well put couldnt have said it better.
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