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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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ngapat wrote:mlennyma wrote:Equity is closing in the gap with hfck so fast,I will not be surprised if equity see's 40 before hfck That will partly depend on hfck q1 numbers Those 264 million shares to be created on Friday is the dark cloud for me.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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The additional shares will be used to give bonuses so as to reserve profits as well as rights in future "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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mlennyma wrote:The additional shares will be used to give bonuses so as to reserve profits as well as rights in future That is what i wait to find out and if so,what future we are talking about.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,484 Location: nairobi
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as the father to the current driver i humbly ask you not to overspeed :) hii kitu inauzwa at a price that is illogical considering incoming shares
HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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All out in the last three trading sessions.I will watch from the sidelines as the use of the extra shares is brought to light.It was a hugely profitable journey with HF.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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cnn wrote:ngapat wrote:mlennyma wrote:Equity is closing in the gap with hfck so fast,I will not be surprised if equity see's 40 before hfck That will partly depend on hfck q1 numbers Those 264 million shares to be created on Friday is the dark cloud for me. cnn wrote: All out in the last three trading sessions.I will watch from the sidelines as the use of the extra shares is brought to light.It was a hugely profitable journey with HF. What exactly is your agenda?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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Hfck will dip after below expectation q1 and further dip after going ex.div on may 9th..how can equity be growing more than hfck and with better future income streams??? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/1/2010 Posts: 272 Location: Nairobi
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mlennyma wrote:Hfck will dip after below expectation q1 and further dip after going ex.div on may 9th..how can equity be growing more than hfck and with better future income streams???
Difference in ambitions. Equity is a shark. HF needs to get more aggressive in my opinion. The harder you work, the luckier you get
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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Equity and hfck are meeting today one going up the other falling,its equity firing the shots,I will not be surprised to see equity settle at 37-40 range and hfck 31-33 range "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/29/2012 Posts: 79
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mlennyma wrote:Equity and hfck are meeting today one going up the other falling,its equity firing the shots,I will not be surprised to see equity settle at 37-40 range and hfck 31-33 range  The slide continues, but for how long ? The God of the day is still God in the night.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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mlennyma wrote:Equity and hfck are meeting today one going up the other falling,its equity firing the shots,I will not be surprised to see equity settle at 37-40 range and hfck 31-33 range equity is on another level. safaricom, eabl level. I will buy equity when/if the excitement settles The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 6/17/2009 Posts: 1,619
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Mukiri wrote:cnn wrote:ngapat wrote:mlennyma wrote:Equity is closing in the gap with hfck so fast,I will not be surprised if equity see's 40 before hfck That will partly depend on hfck q1 numbers Those 264 million shares to be created on Friday is the dark cloud for me. cnn wrote: All out in the last three trading sessions.I will watch from the sidelines as the use of the extra shares is brought to light.It was a hugely profitable journey with HF. What exactly is your agenda? My agenda in this market...make money! HF has done exactly that,i had a portion i intended to hold for the long term,but with no clear direction on the intended use of the extra shares(more than the already issued),i was not going to wait for a potential price fall like would happen if a rights issue came up and there was significant dilution(refer to Kengen and Uchumi),i could be wrong and the dilution insignificant(DTB) or even no rights at all. Look at what q1 numbers have done to the counter today.If dilution follows on Friday i will see how the market treats HF and make decisions.Everybody have their own way in the market,i chose my significant profits and walked.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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I also wish hfck well after arm twisting majority of my hfck holding to equity bank. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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I however have a portion of hfck which can enable me buy into any rights when they come. "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Disembarked passagers should mind their business "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/15/2010 Posts: 391 Location: nairobie
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i cant imagin the mbus can go on reverse gear at such a high speed
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2010 Posts: 5,040
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lets say the real driver ireri. has decided to change gears as we climb a hill. it may be/look wise to sell llike cnn esp to avoid price falls. these shares are def for rights issue as this company needs cash to keep the fire burning. ill start saving/aligning for rights The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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mlennyma wrote:Equity and hfck are meeting today one going up the other falling,its equity firing the shots,I will not be surprised to see equity settle at 37-40 range and hfck 31-33 range They met & bypassed each other hi! reminds me of the Maths calculate time taken for the 2 buses approaching to pass each other. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2009 Posts: 2,863
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Boris Boyka wrote:mlennyma wrote:Equity and hfck are meeting today one going up the other falling,its equity firing the shots,I will not be surprised to see equity settle at 37-40 range and hfck 31-33 range They met & bypassed each other hi! reminds me of the Maths calculate time taken for the 2 buses approaching to pass each other. Sadly as the two buses met, there appear to have been a collision and the HF bus seems to be pulling the equity one in its downward direction....Talk about the HF bus having a higher momentum than the equity one! IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,180 Location: nairobi
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At 33.50 with 1bob div.in its head, and yet to go ex- div,when did the equation change..never count on paper money until its converted "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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