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IEBC showdown today!!!!!!!!
maka
#411 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:11:06 PM
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IEBC have said they will not re tender printing of presidential ballot papers as ordered by the court.
possunt quia posse videntur
FRM2011
#412 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:13:26 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
limanika wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
newfarer wrote:
why is iebc unwilling to publish the voter register? what is there to hide if it's the one we shall use on 8.8.

why are they giving the opposition a good chance to claim kiriibiwo

http://www.the-star.co.k...e-listed-twice_c1594235

That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day!
What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece.

IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now.


Seems you have a higher standard for the city council garbage collection unit than you have for the IEBC.

IEBC is one of the best funded commissions. They attract the best talent because they pay better salaries than most blue chip companies for all cadres. In the last four years, they only had one job. To prepare a clean voters register. They didn't do it. So they hired KPMG to do the job for them.

Now they have refused to release both the audited register and the KPMG audit report. Both legal requirements.

In Ghana, the electoral commission there was not required by law to publish the register. But they did and invited the public to point out any anomalies. That boosted the public confidence in them and allowed them to deliver what is being regarded as the most credible and transparent election in Africa's history
limanika
#413 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:24:26 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/21/2011
Posts: 2,032
FRM2011 wrote:
limanika wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
newfarer wrote:
why is iebc unwilling to publish the voter register? what is there to hide if it's the one we shall use on 8.8.

why are they giving the opposition a good chance to claim kiriibiwo

http://www.the-star.co.k...e-listed-twice_c1594235

That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day!
What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece.

IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now.


Seems you have a higher standard for the city council garbage collection unit than you have for the IEBC.

IEBC is one of the best funded commissions. They attract the best talent because they pay better salaries than most blue chip companies for all cadres. In the last four years, they only had one job. To prepare a clean voters register. They didn't do it. So they hired KPMG to do the job for them.

Now they have refused to release both the audited register and the KPMG audit report. Both legal requirements.

In Ghana, the electoral commission there was not required by law to publish the register. But they did and invited the public to point out any anomalies. That boosted the public confidence in them and allowed them to deliver what is being regarded as the most credible and transparent election in Africa's history

I thought the register is available? Why then are people claiming there are 400k double entries if register has not been released? And the KPMG audit report, why do you want it? isnt that like witch hunting? If naswa dont trust IEBC let them just say so instead of running round in circles. but it's too late.
Njung'e
#414 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:46:44 PM
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Joined: 2/7/2007
Posts: 11,935
Location: Nairobi
This unmanaged daily "complains" and "demands" by NASA will eventually have an effect on their supporters. FATIGUE!!! Cleverly, Jubilee have kept stoking the fire, keeping the distance while their eyes are trained on the votes. NASA will never know what hit them.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
thuks
#415 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 12:54:13 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/8/2008
Posts: 1,575
Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:
limanika wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
newfarer wrote:
why is iebc unwilling to publish the voter register? what is there to hide if it's the one we shall use on 8.8.

why are they giving the opposition a good chance to claim kiriibiwo

http://www.the-star.co.k...e-listed-twice_c1594235

That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day!
What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece.

IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until o- after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now.


Why wait for after election if you have evidence now.

If 3rd parties can pick irregularities, with limited time and resources, why can't the body mandated to clean the register do it and they have had 5 years since last election?

Shouldn't we have a system that automatically rejects a double registration, i.e you can't use the same ID twice?


Can those who have identified double registrations publicise the same? - 400685 (very nice figure i must say)
I care!
FRM2011
#416 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:03:38 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
limanika wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:
limanika wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
newfarer wrote:
why is iebc unwilling to publish the voter register? what is there to hide if it's the one we shall use on 8.8.

why are they giving the opposition a good chance to claim kiriibiwo

http://www.the-star.co.k...e-listed-twice_c1594235

That, quoting a political party operative verbatim 27 days to election day!
What has IEBC got to say about the issue - dont rely on a politician's mouthpiece.

IEBC this, IEBC that...Can we for once stop the side shows and give IEBC the much needed space to prepare for the election rather than making them join us chase the wind. Even if there are double registered voters - say 1 or 2 or whatever number, for whatever reason - it really isnt an issue until - after the election - you can provide evidence that so many double registered voters 'voted twice' and made your opponent to win. we know the challenges with our voter register didn't start yesterday and it's impossible to have 100% clean register. For now, comments insinuating that whatever inconsistencies there might be in the register is an intention to rig, is to put the cart before the horse. Our laws only require IEBC to strive to achieve clean register, they have done all they can IMHO. And let's leave it at that for now.


Seems you have a higher standard for the city council garbage collection unit than you have for the IEBC.

IEBC is one of the best funded commissions. They attract the best talent because they pay better salaries than most blue chip companies for all cadres. In the last four years, they only had one job. To prepare a clean voters register. They didn't do it. So they hired KPMG to do the job for them.

Now they have refused to release both the audited register and the KPMG audit report. Both legal requirements.

In Ghana, the electoral commission there was not required by law to publish the register. But they did and invited the public to point out any anomalies. That boosted the public confidence in them and allowed them to deliver what is being regarded as the most credible and transparent election in Africa's history

I thought the register is available? Why then are people claiming there are 400k double entries if register has not been released?
Law obligates them to publish it online. 5 of them actually. National register, county register, constituency register, ward register and polling station register. They have refused but you can buy from them if interested
And the KPMG audit report, why do you want it? isnt that like witch hunting?
Again, the law demands they release the audit report within 7 days after receiving it from the auditors.
If naswa dont trust IEBC let them just say so instead of running round in circles. but it's too late.

Rahatupu
#417 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:05:58 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
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Location: matano manne
One thing that's still buffing me is the ruling that public participation be there in single sourced tendering.
Much Know
#418 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:09:40 PM
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Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,586
maka wrote:
IEBC have said they will not re tender printing of presidential ballot papers as ordered by the court.

Waiting for NASWA to yell "mass action", that's when we will know plan B has started!
Ras Kienyeji Man
Much Know
#419 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:13:29 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/6/2008
Posts: 3,586
Rahatupu wrote:
One thing that's still buffing me is the ruling that public participation be there in single sourced tendering.

One answer, ukabila, ujinga, utoto e.t.c combined, even in judiciary!! Sad
Ras Kienyeji Man
kaka2za
#420 Posted : Tuesday, July 11, 2017 1:27:07 PM
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Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
We have lost this country to Lawyers. Ours must be the most litigious country south of sahara!
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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