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SGR Progress thus far
kiash
#411 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 8:42:46 AM
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Impunity wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations.


Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco?


Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience!

You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key.

But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline.

The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip!

By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED!



Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains d'oh! d'oh! then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day.
There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one.
Impunity
#412 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:12:33 AM
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kiash wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations.


Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco?


Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience!

You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key.

But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline.

The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip!

By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED!



Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains d'oh! d'oh! then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day.
There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one.


Eti double stack containers on that single truck...one emergency break due Maasai cows and pap! everything goes tumbling down.

The recent Germany crash was on a single section and the train was highly digitized system with auto brakes should the driver exceed speed designated.
Its the signal controllers who messed up.
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Impunity
#413 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 9:56:52 AM
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The Mombasa SGR Super Bridge coming up nicely...Drool





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2012
#414 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:24:35 AM
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Flo-ology wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations.


Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco?


Did they make that promise? I thought they said that it can be easily converted to electric when that time comes?
Surely, there is no way we can do an electric train at this time from Mombasa to Kisumu.

BBI will solve it
:)
aemathenge
#415 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 11:24:38 AM
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The Machizi Express Thus Far

DANIEL NYASSY, in his article in the Business Daily dated 09 Njaanuary 2017, has it that four locomotives have docked at the port of Mombasa.

He asserts that this sends a strong signal about the government’s plan to put the Kshs. 372 billion Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) to use by June 2017.

The consignment is the first batch of the powered rail vehicles expected to haul modern wagons along the modern railway.

Quote:
They arrived ahead of commissioning on Wednesday (11 Njaanuary 2017?) by Transport and Infrastructure secretary James Macharia, who is expected to flag them off.


How comes Kenian Number One is not commissioning/flagging off these locomotives?

Link:
taka jua
#416 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:12:54 PM
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Joined: 7/23/2012
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kiash wrote:
Impunity wrote:
Flo-ology wrote:
2012 wrote:
Anyway, maji yameshamwagika. I hope you have been getting cheap land along the path of the SGR stations.


Why "maji yamemwagika?" is it because JP Promised electric train and instead delivered diesel hauled loco?


Me I am (grammar) not even concerned about electric or diesel...what I wanted was a double track to realize the speed,safety and convenience!

You cannot operate "high" speed trains on singol tracks...the technology to man sigol tracks safely is so expensive and involving...thats why you see the colonial guys introduced the "line clear" which is a wooden key in the shape of a tennis rack and much bigger...the train would not proceed to the next statin until the train engineer was handed that key.

But for double tracks, once the trains are moving in the same direction on the same track, you only need to monitor them on some screen and give them max speeds to operate between certain points, much like its done in the airline.

The 4 hour trip promised between Nairobi and Coast is a PIPE DREAM...It will take minimum 8 hour,believe me! And when we have an incident on the sigol track, expect to cancel your trip!

By "high speed" I mean anything above 100km/h...which is very slow when compared to real HIGH SPEED!



Am with you here , there is also discipline.I saw the other day the Chinese are doing campaigns for those living along the railway about their safety. Once the maasais start grazing their cows and pap several of them are hit by those trains d'oh! d'oh! then in Kenya its known some people behave the same way as cows , you know when you drive along thika road.The guys who will mann the stations have to be very serious like the air controllers otherwise utaskia a head on collission somewhere. This happens even in developped countries , there was such a case in Germany the other day.
There is also the case of stacking they talk about ati the rail has been made to hold a train with stacked containers, well i'm waiting to see this one.


Now we start getting news of 'residents have blocked the railway to protest the death of so and so who was knocked down by the train.'
hardwood
#417 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:36:25 PM
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Impunity wrote:
The Mombasa SGR Super Bridge coming up nicely...Drool






Is that the airport that I am seeing there?
Intelligentsia
#418 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 12:59:33 PM
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@Impunity thanks for bringing up that thingy called the line clear, many eons ago everytime we would go to the coast I would see the train driver (ni ukweli anaitwa machine operator?) drop that tennis-racket shaped thing and pick up another and I would wonder nini hio.
So its purpose is to only open up the line section?
Impunity
#419 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:28:14 PM
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aemathenge wrote:
The Machizi Express Thus Far

DANIEL NYASSY, in his article in the Business Daily dated 09 Njaanuary 2017, has it that four locomotives have docked at the port of Mombasa.

He asserts that this sends a strong signal about the government’s plan to put the Kshs. 372 billion Standard Gauge Railway (SGR) to use by June 2017.

The consignment is the first batch of the powered rail vehicles expected to haul modern wagons along the modern railway.

Quote:
They arrived ahead of commissioning on Wednesday (11 Njaanuary 2017?) by Transport and Infrastructure secretary James Macharia, who is expected to flag them off.


How comes Kenian Number One is not commissioning/flagging off these locomotives?

Link:


Kenia-ONE will be in India sub-continent looking Doctors for lease!
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Impunity
#420 Posted : Tuesday, January 10, 2017 3:47:12 PM
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hardwood wrote:
Impunity wrote:
The Mombasa SGR Super Bridge coming up nicely...Drool






Is that the airport that I am seeing there?


I am also seeing it.
That could be the Changamwe area!
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