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Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Its a chess game, next Kiev will simply refuse to allow Russian gas transported to Europe through its territories, Russia will blame Ukraine for stopping the flow of Gas to europe/Germany Si they ship it from Uncle's land, wish it was winter and am sure their balls would shrink Life is an endless adventure
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freiks wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:Its a chess game, next Kiev will simply refuse to allow Russian gas transported to Europe through its territories, Russia will blame Ukraine for stopping the flow of Gas to europe/Germany Si they ship it from Uncle's land, wish it was winter and am sure their balls would shrink The Russians want to turn it off mapema so that come winter their reserves will have been depleted. but one gets the feeling this issue will not end well.
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kingfisher wrote:jokes wrote:from the news i am getting this thing is not going well which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors 1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here 2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!! 3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are. If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!! This is probably a statement from someone will little to no knowledge. 1. 60% of Russian GDP is tied to Oil supply to Europe, within a few weeks of West/ Russia war, russia economy will collapes and Russians will overthrow their own government through mass protest. 2. Russia still purchase millitary equipments from the West, their millitary industries depend heavly on western supplies so the cannot sustain any war with the west. 3. US alone still dominate the airs and the seas 4. The war will be fought in Russia not the West 5. There will be no war between the west/Russia, a little more sanctions will bring russia economy to a total collaps!
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@Rollout when Putin signed the trade agreement with China what did EU tell Putin? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:@Rollout when Putin signed the trade agreement with China what did EU tell Putin? Why waste your time addressing Rollout aka Ole Lenku? This is the same guy who is so so quick to blame all Govts, esp the GoK, while exempting and glorifying the US one! Strange "Kenyan" if I may add! He sounds like the US Govt spokesman, putting our very own Mutua to shame! TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:@Rollout when Putin signed the trade agreement with China what did EU tell Putin? Why waste your time addressing Rollout aka Ole Lenku? This is the same guy who is so so quick to blame all Govts, esp the GoK, while exempting and glorifying the US one! Strange "Kenyan" if I may add! He sounds like the US Govt spokesman, putting our very own Mutua to shame! @Simonkabz and Murchr. Until you step out of your village and see the world out there, you'll never understand. Those of us who have been lucky to live in developed countries see things from a very different perspective. While you glorify your tribesmen regardless of their vice; I don't see it that way, I think Kenya could be a better country, I think Kenyans should pressure their leaders to serve them, I think Kenya is not getting a fair share. On USA, I won't argue about it's success, I encourage you to travel around the world and your perspective will change!
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Rollout wrote:simonkabz wrote:murchr wrote:@Rollout when Putin signed the trade agreement with China what did EU tell Putin? Why waste your time addressing Rollout aka Ole Lenku? This is the same guy who is so so quick to blame all Govts, esp the GoK, while exempting and glorifying the US one! Strange "Kenyan" if I may add! He sounds like the US Govt spokesman, putting our very own Mutua to shame! @Simonkabz and Murchr. Until you step out of your village and see the world out there, you'll never understand. Those of us who have been lucky to live in developed countries see things from a very different perspective. While you glorify your tribesmen regardless of their vice; I don't see it that way, I think Kenya could be a better country, I think Kenyans should pressure their leaders to serve them, I think Kenya is not getting a fair share. On USA, I won't argue about it's success, I encourage you to travel around the world and your perspective will change! Jibu swali uachane na story mingi. Who told you we havent been out there? You've drunk so much of the US koolaid that you've lost touch with reality. You want soo much to be whitey yet many will still see you as an Akaata. Russia is not going to go down. No. Obama has got no balls and Bush was wiser to keep off "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rollout wrote:kingfisher wrote:jokes wrote:from the news i am getting this thing is not going well which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors 1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here 2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!! 3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are. If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!! This is probably a statement from someone will little to no knowledge. 1. 60% of Russian GDP is tied to Oil supply to Europe, within a few weeks of West/ Russia war, russia economy will collapes and Russians will overthrow their own government through mass protest. 2. Russia still purchase millitary equipments from the West, their millitary industries depend heavly on western supplies so the cannot sustain any war with the west. 3. US alone still dominate the airs and the seas 4. The war will be fought in Russia not the West 5. There will be no war between the west/Russia, a little more sanctions will bring russia economy to a total collaps! @Rollout.... i can see you really "know" things, well done. And will you join us in the next mbuzi you share with us this knowledge first hand? When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
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Rollout wrote:kingfisher wrote:jokes wrote:from the news i am getting this thing is not going well which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors 1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here 2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!! 3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are. If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!! This is probably a statement from someone will little to no knowledge. 1. 60% of Russian GDP is tied to Oil supply to Europe, within a few weeks of West/ Russia war, russia economy will collapes and Russians will overthrow their own government through mass protest. 2. Russia still purchase millitary equipments from the West, their millitary industries depend heavly on western supplies so the cannot sustain any war with the west. 3. US alone still dominate the airs and the seas 4. The war will be fought in Russia not the West 5. There will be no war between the west/Russia, a little more sanctions will bring russia economy to a total collaps! Typical Americans! Cannot even differentiate between oil and gas!!!!!!Recently, Ruskis signed a deal with China concerning that gas. 30 years, I understood it to be. Indeed they purchased some military equipment from NATO and I observed the irony in that. But it did not escape me that they would fit the equipment with their own technology. And Americans rely on them Russians for engines to the International Space Station. Symbiosis. Why war? There is a lot of alternative views about the need for "war" and whoever relies on "official" reports is hopelessly lost. America is in deep debt to China and this type of grandstanding as typified by Rollout is evidence of feeding too much on "American exceptionalism" and of watching too much CNN.
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Muriel wrote:Rollout wrote:kingfisher wrote:jokes wrote:from the news i am getting this thing is not going well which news?? the worst that can happen is civil war in Ukraine, not Russo-America war!!! and if this happens the pro west will loose badly because of three factors 1. Russia will donate equipment free to the pro-russia east, for as long as it takes. Russia needs no economic motivation here 2. Pro west are broke, cant buy any military equipment, and I cannot see the west (NATO) sustaining such a conflict through donations!! 3. If the east falls from kiev influence, they can manufacture their own equipment. remember the east is where majority of the industries are. If I were in power in Kiev I would start visiting the east with sweet words, not a sword... and discourage the likes of Biden from setting foot in Kiev... those are the escalators!! This is probably a statement from someone will little to no knowledge. 1. 60% of Russian GDP is tied to Oil supply to Europe, within a few weeks of West/ Russia war, russia economy will collapes and Russians will overthrow their own government through mass protest. 2. Russia still purchase millitary equipments from the West, their millitary industries depend heavly on western supplies so the cannot sustain any war with the west. 3. US alone still dominate the airs and the seas 4. The war will be fought in Russia not the West 5. There will be no war between the west/Russia, a little more sanctions will bring russia economy to a total collaps! Typical Americans! Cannot even differentiate between oil and gas!!!!!!Recently, Ruskis signed a deal with China concerning that gas. 30 years, I understood it to be. Indeed they purchased some military equipment from NATO and I observed the irony in that. But it did not escape me that they would fit the equipment with their own technology. And Americans rely on them Russians for engines to the International Space Station. Symbiosis. Why war? There is a lot of alternative views about the need for "war" and whoever relies on "official" reports is hopelessly lost. America is in deep debt to China and this type of grandstanding as typified by Rollout is evidence of feeding too much on "American exceptionalism" and of watching too much CNN. Same americans who believes causing wars all over the world is democracy and being gay and lesbian is the best way of life. Lick my foot Life is an endless adventure
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