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limanika
#781 Posted : Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:54:27 PM
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@fakemoney, do what works for you.only major precaution is that ground 0 is high enough to prevent any rainwater runoff from external access road or own compound etc from getting back into the house. Have you also tried to get your architect advise you
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#782 Posted : Friday, December 19, 2014 9:11:49 AM
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heri wrote:
@A4 my dad did 20 two bedroomed houses in nakuru. he is spending sh 40K per month to empty the septic tank which has to be done twice in a week

what could be the problem?


@heri, well designed septic tanks can handle apartments very well. There could be a problem in the design of the septic tank in that it does not allow for anaerobic bacteria to digest the waste properly.
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heri
#783 Posted : Friday, December 19, 2014 10:52:01 AM
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@A4, does it matter if the residents are using too much water?

How can you help? or do you have someone who we can contact my email is employerat40@gmail.com
smallfama
#784 Posted : Monday, December 22, 2014 8:00:54 AM
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smallfama wrote:
Construction veterans, can this EPS pannels from KOTO and NHC be used for building slabs like for maisonett? Or they are just good for walling?


A4architect and structural engineers assist hapa.
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#785 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:30:58 AM
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@smallfama, the panels are made of polystyrene infill , which is quite brittle. The infill is then plastered hence no strength to support live and dead weight eg when used as a floor slab.
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#786 Posted : Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:33:01 AM
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heri wrote:
@A4, does it matter if the residents are using too much water?

How can you help? or do you have someone who we can contact my email is employerat40@gmail.com


@heri, it doesnt matter. a well designed septic tank can be able to exit all the water that comes inside through the soak pits which are well spread out to increase surface area for evaporation to take place. as long as the rate of evaporation is higher than the rate of water intake, it will work perfectly.
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geofreygachie
#787 Posted : Thursday, January 01, 2015 5:53:12 PM
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@ A4 , i am planning to develop a plot measuring 30 x 60 ft in Githunguri,Utawala.The plot has no title its only share certificate.I already have some drawings done having squeezed 2 units of 2 bedroom house.Please advise if the Council would approve my drawings without the title and considering the size of land and the development i plan to undertake and roughly how much i would have to pay to the City Council.Below is a screenshot of the ground floor plan.Kindly advise.


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madhaquer
#788 Posted : Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:39:34 PM
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a4architect.com wrote:
heri wrote:
@A4, does it matter if the residents are using too much water?

How can you help? or do you have someone who we can contact my email is employerat40@gmail.com


@heri, it doesnt matter. a well designed septic tank can be able to exit all the water that comes inside through the soak pits which are well spread out to increase surface area for evaporation to take place. as long as the rate of evaporation is higher than the rate of water intake, it will work perfectly.


Is it really ok to have the bath and kitchen sink water going to the septic especially in the case of flats ?
I think the septic should be left for the toilet waste only and have the bath and kitchen waste water go into a separate soak pit, failure to do this means you have to really empty the excess water in the septic because it is just too much.
madhaquer
#789 Posted : Saturday, January 03, 2015 12:42:06 PM
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@geofreygachie your plan must show some parking space allocated for this units.
geofreygachie
#790 Posted : Saturday, January 03, 2015 2:51:02 PM
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madhaquer wrote:
@geofreygachie your plan must show some parking space allocated for this units.


In that case the ground floor will only have one unit instead of 2, to accommodate the parking.Thank you.
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jaggernaut
#791 Posted : Saturday, January 03, 2015 7:00:03 PM
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smallfama wrote:
smallfama wrote:
Construction veterans, can this EPS pannels from KOTO and NHC be used for building slabs like for maisonett? Or they are just good for walling?


A4architect and structural engineers assist hapa.


I visited a flat hapo next to TRM that was being constructed using these panels and saw that they had a different kind of panel they were using for the slab. The slab panels had some space for chumas. They told me they got the panels from NHC. The flat is 5 floors made entirely of those panels, walls and slab, and is now complete.
Bigchick
#792 Posted : Monday, January 05, 2015 5:43:07 PM
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#793 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 4:35:39 PM
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I am looking for a cost effective way of doing a 100ft perimeter fence, an option that will not be heavy on the pocket.

Would the interlocking blocks help? Ideas very welcome...
S.Mutaga III
#794 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 8:42:08 PM
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Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro
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littledove
#795 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 9:36:59 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year
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S.Mutaga III
#796 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 9:55:09 PM
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littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year

Assuming that the plot is a perfect rectangle, how about 19 rooms, 10 on one side and 9 on the other side. Each room to measure 10ft by 12ft? The reason for the nine rooms at one side is to leave space for toilets at the last space that a room could occupy. If the rooms are properly planned, so that the 10ft dimension is along the perimeter and the 12ft is into the plot, that would leave 26ft space between the two rows. Could that work? Such a plan could yield 19 units on a 50ft by 100ft plot
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
littledove
#797 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 10:09:38 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year

Assuming that the plot is a perfect rectangle, how about 19 rooms, 10 on one side and 9 on the other side. Each room to measure 10ft by 12ft? The reason for the nine rooms at one side is to leave space for toilets at the last space that a room could occupy. If the rooms are properly planned, so that the 10ft dimension is along the perimeter and the 15ft is into the plot, that would leave 26ft space between the two rows. Could that work? Such a plan could yield 19 units on a 50ft by 100ft plot

26ft in between is a whole field! neighbours will require motorbike to visit one another! OK to show you the size of 26 ft I have a plot of 25 by 100 which have a plan of 6 bedsitters of 14 by 15 ft with a space which can fit packing for small cars
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S.Mutaga III
#798 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 10:18:12 PM
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littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year

Assuming that the plot is a perfect rectangle, how about 19 rooms, 10 on one side and 9 on the other side. Each room to measure 10ft by 12ft? The reason for the nine rooms at one side is to leave space for toilets at the last space that a room could occupy. If the rooms are properly planned, so that the 10ft dimension is along the perimeter and the 15ft is into the plot, that would leave 26ft space between the two rows. Could that work? Such a plan could yield 19 units on a 50ft by 100ft plot

26ft in between is a whole field! neighbours will require motorbike to visit one another! OK to show you the size of 26 ft I have a plot of 25 by 100 which have a plan of 6 bedsitters of 14 by 15 ft with a space which can fit packing for small cars

Then what is the ideal number for rooms, 12ft by 10ft...but dont be too mean with space...because they will need hanging lines, septic tank and some space to park their motorbikes. Is it safe to assume that with proper planning, 20 units on a 50 by 100 should leave enough space for the septic tank and washrooms? Also about the cost, is that cost for anywhere near Nairobi or outskirts? I am planning to do this upcountry so the cost per room may be significantly lower
A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
S.Mutaga III
#799 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 10:28:57 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year

Assuming that the plot is a perfect rectangle, how about 19 rooms, 10 on one side and 9 on the other side. Each room to measure 10ft by 12ft? The reason for the nine rooms at one side is to leave space for toilets at the last space that a room could occupy. If the rooms are properly planned, so that the 10ft dimension is along the perimeter and the 15ft is into the plot, that would leave 26ft space between the two rows. Could that work? Such a plan could yield 19 units on a 50ft by 100ft plot

26ft in between is a whole field! neighbours will require motorbike to visit one another! OK to show you the size of 26 ft I have a plot of 25 by 100 which have a plan of 6 bedsitters of 14 by 15 ft with a space which can fit packing for small cars

Then what is the ideal number for rooms, 12ft by 10ft...but dont be too mean with space...because they will need hanging lines, septic tank and some space to park their motorbikes. Is it safe to assume that with proper planning, 20 units on a 50 by 100 should leave enough space for the septic tank and washrooms? Also about the cost, is that cost for anywhere near Nairobi or outskirts? I am planning to do this upcountry so the cost per room may be significantly lower

By the way, I just checked the blog for a4architect, the approximate cost per square meter in low income housing is Ksh 20,000. His example is Ruai and other outskirts of Nairobi. Could costs be significantly lower upcountry where single rooms rent at half the price of these Ruai units?
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littledove
#800 Posted : Monday, January 12, 2015 10:43:57 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
littledove wrote:
S.Mutaga III wrote:
Hello. Any wazuan who knows how many single rooms can fit on a 50 by 100 plot. I am a hustler trying to make a buck in real estate. I have already pin pointed a plot back in the village and the most popular kinds of rentals there are single rooms, so bedsitters etc are out of the question. Any rough estimate on how much it will cost me on average to put up per room is appreciated. In summary:
- How many single rooms can one build on a 50 by 100 in such a way to maximize on the land without necessarily causing congestion?
- What is the rough estimate cost of construction per room?
NB: Dont laugh at me, am just trying to make a buck by whatever means necessary. Maybe in a few years I will be talking of flats:) Help a Bro

for 50by 100 three rows will be ideal to maximize space. units of 12 by 12 ft facing one another and a space of 10ft in the middle, 16 units in total, another row of 6 units of 12 by 10 ft facing the others so that you wount need a fence that will take 72 ft in length leaving at least 30ft for ceptic tank. note that units of 12ft are very spacious and these days single rooms are 10 by 10 ft, that will give you a upper hand. without expensive finishing a single room will cost you about 155k. that's according to my little experience, also waiting from experts as I await similar project this year

Assuming that the plot is a perfect rectangle, how about 19 rooms, 10 on one side and 9 on the other side. Each room to measure 10ft by 12ft? The reason for the nine rooms at one side is to leave space for toilets at the last space that a room could occupy. If the rooms are properly planned, so that the 10ft dimension is along the perimeter and the 15ft is into the plot, that would leave 26ft space between the two rows. Could that work? Such a plan could yield 19 units on a 50ft by 100ft plot

26ft in between is a whole field! neighbours will require motorbike to visit one another! OK to show you the size of 26 ft I have a plot of 25 by 100 which have a plan of 6 bedsitters of 14 by 15 ft with a space which can fit packing for small cars

Then what is the ideal number for rooms, 12ft by 10ft...but dont be too mean with space...because they will need hanging lines, septic tank and some space to park their motorbikes. Is it safe to assume that with proper planning, 20 units on a 50 by 100 should leave enough space for the septic tank and washrooms? Also about the cost, is that cost for anywhere near Nairobi or outskirts? I am planning to do this upcountry so the cost per room may be significantly lower

if you decide 10by 12 ft 25 byunits can fit, still insisting on 3 rows , for the first two rows nine units and the other seven, a space of 10ft is enough for two rows and 6ft for one row. the cost above relate to a place where a lorry of stones 400ft is 15k, sand 12k ballast 10k and a bag of cement 700 others costs don't vary much
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