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A guide to imporing cars from Japan
bartum
#31 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 5:00:40 PM
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Tebes wrote:
@Bartum All passenger cars charged Import duty, Excise duty and VAT. Yes, B15 included. Its only pick-ups and lorries that dont have Excise duty but still are charged import duty and VAT.
@tebes i have heard people usually say total tax is about 74% of CIF, i dont know weather this is true.
JkMwatha
#32 Posted : Saturday, October 16, 2010 6:18:19 PM
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bartum wrote:
i have heard people usually say total tax is about 74% of CIF, i dont know weather this is true.
this is what you've heard..... The taxation figures Import duty is 25% of CIF value. Excise Duty 20% of (CIF+Import duty value) VAT is 16% of (CIF +import duty value + Excise Duty value). Calculate cumulatively Import Duty+Excise Duty+V.A.T will work out to 74% ..... But just to let you know that this is not necessarily how it will be worked out KRA hardly ever use CIF values.... This is because CIF values are usually lower than the depreciated value as would be calculated using the CRSP table and valuation Template (as indicated by Tebes in post#21 above). In some cases you will find that the toal tax is more than the CIF value... even as high as 130% of CIF. In fact with all the cars I have sent from UK, I have never been required to produce an invoice/CIF valuation etc. All KRA/clearing agents have needed is 1. Logbook, 2. Jevic Certificate (KRWI) 3. Bill Of Lading.
bartum
#33 Posted : Monday, October 18, 2010 7:19:58 PM
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JkMwatha wrote:
bartum wrote:
i have heard people usually say total tax is about 74% of CIF, i dont know weather this is true.
this is what you've heard..... The taxation figures Import duty is 25% of CIF value. Excise Duty 20% of (CIF+Import duty value) VAT is 16% of (CIF +import duty value + Excise Duty value). Calculate cumulatively Import Duty+Excise Duty+V.A.T will work out to 74% ..... But just to let you know that this is not necessarily how it will be worked out KRA hardly ever use CIF values.... This is because CIF values are usually lower than the depreciated value as would be calculated using the CRSP table and valuation Template (as indicated by Tebes in post#21 above). In some cases you will find that the toal tax is more than the CIF value... even as high as 130% of CIF. In fact with all the cars I have sent from UK, I have never been required to produce an invoice/CIF valuation etc. All KRA/clearing agents have needed is 1. Logbook, 2. Jevic Certificate (KRWI) 3. Bill Of Lading.
thanks alot man
Ms Mkenya
#34 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 6:17:55 PM
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Very useful info VJ and thanks. Applause Applause Applause Applause What of trade car view?
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Vj
#35 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:18:07 PM
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Ms Mkenya wrote:
What of trade car view?
Tradecarview is simply a platform that links international buyers to car exporters located mainly in Japan, it is something similar to e-bay. you have to be careful about buying from tradecarview as quite a number of people have fallen victim to fictitious sellers who pose as legitimate exporters on the site and dupe you out of your hard earned money. However majority of the sellers are legitimate but you should explore the prices and efficiency of the export process by various sellers.
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innovator
#36 Posted : Friday, October 29, 2010 11:46:39 PM
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@vj Do you know the taxation for hybrid cars. I imported a toyota prius and ended up paying one and a halve times import tax of the cif value. I heard that they ague it consumes less fuel, hence less fuel tax, they have put a higher import tax. Any idea?
mukiha
#37 Posted : Saturday, October 30, 2010 11:09:35 AM
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@innovator; the CRSP of the Prius is Sh3,500,000.... same as a Toyota Harrier! Starting from 3.50m, your taxes should be about: 370k for 7 - 8 yrs old 494k for a 6 -7 yrs 617k for 5 -6 yrs etc So how old was yours? the tax calculation has nothing to do with fuel consumption. It has everything to do with the VALUE of the car.... and note that VALUE is not necessarily what you paid for it!! If you were given the car free of charge, you would still have to pay the import taxes. In that case the taxes are an infinite % of the CIF!!!
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innovator
#38 Posted : Saturday, October 30, 2010 12:28:20 PM
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Thanks mukiha, you have put it very clear, it was actually 7 years with a very good deal, cif value. The car is the best i have ever driven, pocket friendly and very smooth, runability.
mukiha
#39 Posted : Saturday, October 30, 2010 10:28:41 PM
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@innovator; You are welcome. How is the fuel consumption? Two catches about hybrid cars: [1] They are very expensive to buy compared to similar sized petrol or diesel versions; [2] The batteries last about 10 years and a replacement battery will cost upwards of US$5,000. But have no fear; you can still drive it after the battery dies off, only that it will not be a hybrid any more....
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
JkMwatha
#40 Posted : Sunday, October 31, 2010 12:33:59 AM
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So... what does this mean? The 7-year old Prius' battery (assuming its the original one) will give you another 3 yrs? But not to worry... keeping in mind that as more hybrid vehicles take to the road, reclaimed batteries (from wrecked/salvage/write-off cars) with plenty of life will become more available. I have seen some used batteries eg. one selling at below ksh100k off a 2007 model. I'm not sure how replacement works...requiring replacing the ECU or some other configuration etc. I know most sellers expected you to give them your old battery... otherwise the replacement will cost more.
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