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Fundamental investor - Eveready
kiragumwangi
#31 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:21:52 PM
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My earlier statement 'There seems to be a disconnect between the company fundamentals and market fundamentals' should actually have read '... a disconnect between the company fundamentals and market sentiment'.

On the backdrop that the company will be diversifying its product offer to include baby care products one wonders whether venturing into such an untested market only increases the company's risk profile.

Its 2009 report pitted short-term borrowings (read payable within a year) of Ksh 362 million against cash reserves of Ksh 62 million. I'd like to know how that was resolved. Thus significant financial risk for this company prevails in a declining market.

For some reason the market seems to have turned the proverbial blind eye.
kiragumwangi
#32 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 3:32:37 PM
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@sparkly. I am actaully going by its PE ratios (a reflection of market sentiment regarding this particular stock) between '09 and '10 which has risen.

Stock price drop (as opposed to PE ratio) in that or any other period could have been down to an overall declining market (read recession or global financial crisis or bear market)affecting all stocks. This would be exemplified in a declining benchmark index as has been the case in the last two years.

Point being although Eveready stock may have declined over recent times it continues to post a healthy PE ratio which shows that investors continue to believe in the stock performance if not the company performance. Hence the statement a growth stock is not necessarily a growth company
the deal
#33 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 6:58:31 PM
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Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?
youcan'tstopusnow
#34 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:07:16 PM
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the deal wrote:
Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?

If they call the condoms paka, that will be neat!
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VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:18:21 PM
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the deal wrote:
Somebody here said paka will start manufacturing condoms how far is that?
Then there are those toys they can sell... and which need batteries... Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sheep
#36 Posted : Wednesday, September 08, 2010 7:33:22 PM
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Energizer bunny
The utimate goal of investing is to buy low sell high;if we re-write this core equation in psychology terms it becomes buy fear sell greed.
youcan'tstopusnow
#37 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 6:07:09 PM
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How low can this baby go? 2.50? Nothing good fundamentally with this company. Some guys are speculating in poor companies in the hope that they will be bought e.g hoping that some Chinese will pop up to 'save' Eveready (possible) But I feel that it would be a better choice to speculate on stronger well managed companies which could also be subject to a takeover e.g. HF, NBK. This way, if a takeover is not forthcoming, the company can still perform. Better than clinging on to cats down to their 9th life. By the way, the share has lost 25 p.c since this topic was started. Same as Mumias (2 worst price drops since Sep 3rd)
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VituVingiSana
#38 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 6:11:10 PM
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At least Mumias has a chance... Paka is NeverReady...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#39 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 6:38:16 PM
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Its the high time they changed the name from Eveready to Daipeready. Its like a daiper which has been used and ready for disposal.

Happy to join this family.

"The opportunity of a lifetime must be seized during the lifetime of the opportunity."
youcan'tstopusnow
#40 Posted : Monday, November 22, 2010 7:13:16 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
At least Mumias has a chance... Paka is NeverReady...

TRUE! We can't even begin to compare the two. I was just alluding to the sharp drop in Panya's share price
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