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Williamson's Tea Kenya: EPS Ksh 96.42
the deal
#31 Posted : Monday, June 28, 2010 9:04:15 PM
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BOOM BOOM and then a BLAST...when the BLAST comes ulcers will take u away...LoL...
the deal
#32 Posted : Monday, June 28, 2010 10:14:54 PM
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WTK looks damn cheap on PE basis...can the boom continue? Owning 100 shares wont hurt...LoL.
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#33 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2010 1:01:45 AM
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There's a rule in stock market investment that says : NEVER trade a stock that trades very low volumes. Still our savvy investors @ wazua dnt want to listen. smile smile . Let the centum ride continue...... As for mumias sugar. Deadline for results is approaching. And i expect a good rally - a really gud one - some weeks after that. The earlier the better.
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cnn
#34 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:43:20 PM
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@the deal,tea and other softs will continue doing well.When the unpredictable weather patterns which are part of global warming strike we have low production and high prices.When rains are good like the current year ,slightly lower prices are compensated by good volumes.Looking at the mombasa tea auction weekly reports so far ,i expect tea companies to do well again,Kakuzi will report half year in two months which i am sure will reflect this trend.But the dividend payout..horrible.They should bring forward that WTK AGM,i cant wait.
VituVingiSana
#35 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:16:49 PM
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cnn wrote:
@vvs, logcnn@gmail
@the deal,tea and other softs will continue doing well.When the unpredictable weather patterns which are part of global warming strike we have low production and high prices.When rains are good like the current year ,slightly lower prices are compensated by good volumes.Looking at the mombasa tea auction weekly reports so far ,i expect tea companies to do well again,Kakuzi will report half year in two months which i am sure will reflect this trend.But the dividend payout..horrible.They should bring forward that WTK AGM,i cant wait.


I will be in touch. Leave the AGM when it is... Folks are upset lakini Kenyans!!!

They are huff & puff in private then simper in public! I hope you are all ready for a fight!

BTW, 5/9 directors belong to the british country club!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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#36 Posted : Tuesday, June 29, 2010 5:29:52 PM
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Looks like it was good to get out WTK (same strategy almost every yr) on results announcement day...
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VituVingiSana
#37 Posted : Wednesday, June 30, 2010 2:32:15 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
Looks like it was good to get out WTK (same strategy almost every yr) on results announcement day...


LOL... U did well... I stayed on... I cant believe the LOUSY dividend!!!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Wa_ithaka
#38 Posted : Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:38:29 AM
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I am shocked by the cry for a higher dividend from WTK. As an investor, i always treat dividends in one of three ways, as a small token of thank you for holding onto a share for some period of time or as wasted capital that could be reinvested to increase my capital gains or as an opportunity to speculate especially on shares that are known for their high dividend yield.

If one was seriously investing in WTK because of its dividend (why not the less volatile Total instead?) I can understand the noise but otherwise please give this "haki yetu, dividend yetu" maneno a rest
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VituVingiSana
#39 Posted : Wednesday, June 30, 2010 11:51:38 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
I am shocked by the cry for a higher dividend from WTK. As an investor, i always treat dividends in one of three ways, as a small token of thank you for holding onto a share for some period of time or as wasted capital that could be reinvested to increase my capital gains or as an opportunity to speculate especially on shares that are known for their high dividend yield.

If one was seriously investing in WTK because of its dividend (why not the less volatile Total instead?) I can understand the noise but otherwise please give this "haki yetu, dividend yetu" maneno a rest


In this case I DISAGREE...

1) The 'usual' dividend payout has been low but ranged from 25-50% (of EPS). Even at 25%, this should be 24/-

2) The EPS is an outlier. The dividend is not. The EPS of 96/- (less biological gains + associated firms) is still very good 60/- or so. So 25% = 15/-

3) The cashflow is wonderful & expected to rise or remain steady (well, at least in 1Q 2010-11) thus WTK can afford a larger dividend.

4) According to Warren Buffet, if the firm can't generate better returns than shareholders (well, I use 12% as my benchmark) then distribute the cash. Over the years the ROE of WTK has lagged 12% or even inflation!

5) If there was a stated project that needs cash e.g. acquisition, expansion of existing plantations, new plantings, etc... I wud be OK. Nothing like that has been mentioned.
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Wa_ithaka
#40 Posted : Wednesday, June 30, 2010 1:07:01 PM
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vvs- so why not pursuade WTK to buy up more tea farms as an example?
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