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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Lolest! wrote:A group of Kirinyaga elders have moved to court seeking to have Kirinyaga people(Akirinyaga) recognized as Kenya's 45th tribe and not Kikuyus.
Fair enough, I say. I always wondered why when discussing who Kikuyus are and their original homelands, we only hear of Murang'a, Nyeri & Kiambu. As much as I don't care much about tribe I know this is a bad move for them politically. Their intermarriage with Kikuyus has reduced their numbers significantly but maybe they could join GEMA as GEMAK.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa.  There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Gathige wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa. There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. All those except the Azande are Eastern Nilotic speakers. Azande have mixed ancestry and their language is Congo-Niger;neither Bantu nor Nilotic. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:Gathige wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa. There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. All those except the Azande are Eastern Nilotic speakers. Azande have mixed ancestry and their language is Congo-Niger;neither Bantu nor Nilotic. Boss... Bantu is a branch of "Congo-Niger"  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:Gathige wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa. There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. All those except the Azande are Eastern Nilotic speakers. Azande have mixed ancestry and their language is Congo-Niger;neither Bantu nor Nilotic. Boss... Bantu is a branch of "Congo-Niger" True. Bantus are a branch of Congo-Niger but not all under that large grouping are Bantus. As earlier stated the Zande have mixed ancestry. Generally ,Bantus avoid Northern areas probably because there are hotter. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:Gathige wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa. There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. All those except the Azande are Eastern Nilotic speakers. Azande have mixed ancestry and their language is Congo-Niger;neither Bantu nor Nilotic. Boss... Bantu is a branch of "Congo-Niger" True. Bantus are a branch of Congo-Niger but not all under that large grouping are Bantus. As earlier stated the Zande have mixed ancestry. Generally ,Bantus avoid Northern areas probably because there are hotter. nope... they couldn't break through the nilotic belt! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:kaka2za wrote:Gathige wrote:kaka2za wrote:masukuma wrote:Lolest! wrote:kaka2za wrote:hardwood wrote:masukuma wrote:interesting discussion... where did the Kikuyu originally come from? since the Kamba, Kikuyu, Meru, Embu and Akirinyaga once had a common heritage - what was the name of these people? the proto"Central" people. From Congo, the kikuyu immigrated northwards from Mt Kilimanjaro/TZ area to the Mt kenya/aberdares area. The meru are said to have immigrated from the coast up the Tana river to Mt Kenya area and Nyambene hills. Note that Kikuyus are the northernmost bantus in africa. There are Bantus in Cameroon which seems to lie more to the North than Kenya. Thought even Ugandan Bantus areas are generally more north than Kikuyu country Leave alone across borders, aren't Bukusu lands notth of the equator? The Meru, isn't their land north east of Kikuyu country? There are Bantus in South Sudan and that is quite far north. South Sudan? Who are the Bantus there? The Bantus are Mob in South Sudan. They include the Zande, Bari speakers ( Kuku, Kakwa, Bari , Baka, Baranda etc). Mostly spread accross the Equatorial regions ( except those bordering Northern Kenya and Rift Valley tip who are more of the cushiness) The Zandes look like Kikuyus and lighter than the rest. All those except the Azande are Eastern Nilotic speakers. Azande have mixed ancestry and their language is Congo-Niger;neither Bantu nor Nilotic. Boss... Bantu is a branch of "Congo-Niger" True. Bantus are a branch of Congo-Niger but not all under that large grouping are Bantus. As earlier stated the Zande have mixed ancestry. Generally ,Bantus avoid Northern areas probably because there are hotter. nope... they couldn't break through the nilotic belt! Really? Kikuyus managed to displace Maasais from most areas in present Central Province /Central Rift while Kisiis managed to break the Nilotic belt in Nyanza and South Rift. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/15/2018 Posts: 428
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kaka2za wrote:
Really? Kikuyus managed to displace Maasais from most areas in present Central Province /Central Rift while Kisiis managed to break the Nilotic belt in Nyanza and South Rift.
Kisiis were already in Nyanza before Luos arrived. I am not sure what you mean by saying Kisiis broke the nilotic belt in South Rift.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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radiomast wrote:kaka2za wrote:
Really? Kikuyus managed to displace Maasais from most areas in present Central Province /Central Rift while Kisiis managed to break the Nilotic belt in Nyanza and South Rift.
Kisiis were already in Nyanza before Luos arrived. I am not sure what you mean by saying Kisiis broke the nilotic belt in South Rift. Not quite. For more than 100 years, the Masai protected the hinterland of East Africa from Ottoman and Arabic slave raiders. The thing that did the Masai in were a) riderpest and b) the Masai themselves, through internecine civil war. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 344
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radiomast wrote:When Agikuyu left Mt Kilimanjaro perhaps around 1300 AD , they left behind a small group who are now know as Sonjo. There are 30,000 of them. Their language bears similarities to Gikuyu language. Listen I don't know how you guys are hearing kikuyu here. It sounds closer to meru mixed with sound I hear from maasai.
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