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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Single mothers forced to provide details of the deadbeat fathers for children to be registered on huduma. https://www.nation.co.ke...9854-10i6nwi/index.html
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Why do you say forced? If she's a single mother, how would it be forcing? Unless it's a married woman and the kids have diffrent fathers and that would still not make sense since Huduma is not taking DNA. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Baba has spoken. Hes even more radical than jumbiree...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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hardwood wrote:Baba has spoken. Hes even more radical than jumbiree...
Baba is displaying a lot of enthusiasm for this thing, from billboards to matangas. This thing may be used to replace the voters register, WSR better mobilize his brigade, otherwise he will be left with the tail. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'?
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/20/2015 Posts: 467 Location: Nairobi
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tycho wrote:Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'? The GoK has capacity to frustrate you until you register for Huduma number (inspite of the court order). The people who can survive without Huduma number in the Village i found them queuing for the Huduma Number over the Easter Weekend. I wish they just called it "3rd Generation National I.D" instead of the fancy "Huduma Number" and then it wouldn't even need Baba's endorsement.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Gathige wrote:hardwood wrote:Baba has spoken. Hes even more radical than jumbiree...
Baba is displaying a lot of enthusiasm for this thing, from billboards to matangas. This thing may be used to replace the voters register, WSR better mobilize his brigade, otherwise he will be left with the tail. If that was said by Kuria or Ndindi...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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kawi254 wrote:tycho wrote:Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'? The GoK has capacity to frustrate you until you register for Huduma number (inspite of the court order). The people who can survive without Huduma number in the Village i found them queuing for the Huduma Number over the Easter Weekend. I wish they just called it "3rd Generation National I.D" instead of the fancy "Huduma Number" and then it wouldn't even need Baba's endorsement. It is not. This is fashioned like the SSN(Social Security Number) in the US. There will come a time when without it, you cannot work anywhere because every company will be required to verify if the employees are Kenyan or what their immigration status is/will be. And that is the reason foreigners are also registering their information. You can resist now ukishindana na serikali but eventually you will submit yourself for registration. Am sure some resisters here have already registered. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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murchr wrote:kawi254 wrote:tycho wrote:Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'? The GoK has capacity to frustrate you until you register for Huduma number (inspite of the court order). The people who can survive without Huduma number in the Village i found them queuing for the Huduma Number over the Easter Weekend. I wish they just called it "3rd Generation National I.D" instead of the fancy "Huduma Number" and then it wouldn't even need Baba's endorsement. It is not. This is fashioned like the SSN(Social Security Number) in the US. There will come a time when without it, you cannot work anywhere because every company will be required to verify if the employees are Kenyan or what their immigration status is/will be. And that is the reason foreigners are also registering their information. You can resist now ukishindana na serikali but eventually you will submit yourself for registration. Am sure some resisters here have already registered. Me I resist! Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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kawi254 wrote:tycho wrote:Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'? The GoK has capacity to frustrate you until you register for Huduma number (inspite of the court order). The people who can survive without Huduma number in the Village i found them queuing for the Huduma Number over the Easter Weekend. I wish they just called it "3rd Generation National I.D" instead of the fancy "Huduma Number" and then it wouldn't even need Baba's endorsement. Government has the power to frustrate her citizens. That's true. And that's where we get into illegitimacy and outright disregard of the rule of law. Such a government presents citizens with the moral right to depose it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2010 Posts: 3,504 Location: Uganda
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tycho wrote:kawi254 wrote:tycho wrote:Today I had a dream and I saw soldiers effecting some order on dissenters, and I was surprised at the turn of events.
This came some moments after a certain Rasta told me to switch off my phone.
Now, given that my religious and fundamental belief is that dreams are always true, do I have the right to dissent?
And what would happen to me in a situation where a statesman says 'it has to be compulsory'? The GoK has capacity to frustrate you until you register for Huduma number (inspite of the court order). The people who can survive without Huduma number in the Village i found them queuing for the Huduma Number over the Easter Weekend. I wish they just called it "3rd Generation National I.D" instead of the fancy "Huduma Number" and then it wouldn't even need Baba's endorsement. Government has the power to frustrate her citizens. That's true. And that's where we get into illegitimacy and outright disregard of the rule of law. Such a government presents citizens with the moral right to depose it. I have never even taken the 2nd generation ID and never felt it.this one I pass unless it's made compulsory which the courts have ruled against.my reason is that it won't add any value to my life.if the government wanted to construct our dilapidated road it would not need my huduma number. it would just build it because everyone can see the road is needed.in my estate one has to set a full day to register and not that there's a long queue. it's like 2 people registered per hour. wonder where those 11million they are talking were registered punda amecheka
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/28/2018 Posts: 70 Location: Helsingborg, Sweden
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Huduma number is supposed to be mandatory for all citizens. After all, even if you fail to register now, a time will come when you wont survive in Kenya without it.Serikali iko na mikono mirefu, so don't think you'll escape. It's just some digital form of identification to make things easier
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/25/2008 Posts: 510
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IDEMIA, formerly known as Safran Morpho ....what?!! say Morpho again and servers and IEBC surface ........ I am finished completely..... Huduma number will replace the voters card and 2022 is already decided.....I thought Morpho has my bio-metrics why do they need it again? I AM trust in GOD, I AM belief in THYSELF
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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2Czar wrote:Huduma number is supposed to be mandatory for all citizens. After all, even if you fail to register now, a time will come when you wont survive in Kenya without it.Serikali iko na mikono mirefu, so don't think you'll escape. It's just some digital form of identification to make things easier My contention is that NOTHING should be mandatory for citizens. Not even the digital world. Look at the discourse that the government is having with 'the people'. For example, how much civic education is being given for this registration? If it is that important, what are some of the opportunities that await Wanjiku? There are other genuine concerns. For example: all this data can be used by the government to profile individuals. If an authoritarian government has our profiles and other sophisticated info on her citizens, what are the probabilities that power will be abused? How can one know what's mandatory for all citizens? Normally, when you see elites converging, something is afoot. And when we look at global events we see the emergence of a new world order. Wanjiku isn't being educated about this. What happens next? We are going to the internet of things, how will politics change at that time? I think this is a very serious matter and I thank the courts so far for sticking on its job to balance power. I pray that God may protect the judiciary during these scary times.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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20Million 18 days to go "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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I registered for huduma today at one of the high end hotels in the city. Good that the centers are spread everywhere.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/9/2012 Posts: 144
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hardwood wrote:I registered for huduma today at one of the high end hotels in the city. Good that the centers are spread everywhere. Which hotel hardwood.... me want that too I found meaningful work🤓
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/8/2009 Posts: 975 Location: Nairobi
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Siringi wrote: Je Una Yako ? hii kitu ni nini?
Ndio nimejisajili You will know that you have arrived when money and time are not mutually exclusive "events" in you life!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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T-Bag wrote:IDEMIA, formerly known as Safran Morpho ....what?!! say Morpho again and servers and IEBC surface ........ I am finished completely..... Huduma number will replace the voters card and 2022 is already decided.....I thought Morpho has my bio-metrics why do they need it again? scratch head??? When you register for Hujuma namba -Do you tell them where you will vote? IEBC has your biometrics and if you remember Issak Hassan - he said they will never share that data with the executive (so that people like me who are suspicious of the state - come and register) All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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T-Bag wrote:IDEMIA, formerly known as Safran Morpho ....what?!! say Morpho again and servers and IEBC surface ........ I am finished completely..... Huduma number will replace the voters card and 2022 is already decided.....I thought Morpho has my bio-metrics why do they need it again? Now that you use your Kabambe phone is techno able to read your messages and view your pictures? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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