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Coolbull wrote:Meshack was a suspect turned state-witness. Were it not for him Swazuri and team would be enjoying the mbesha.
That is why I am strongly convinced a whistle-blower compensation scheme would work wonders. From Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, Kidero-supreme court 200M bribe and many others only came out in the open courtesy of a disgruntled insider. David Munyakei was a messenger at CBK who looked at the goldenberg claims when photocopying them and felt sick in the stomach. He took a huge risk and forwarded the documents to Paul Muite. He lost his job and died a lonely, poor and dejected man. If we had given him 100M, how many more Munyakeis would have stepped forward like Meshack has done ??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,335 Location: Masada
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Wah! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:Coolbull wrote:Meshack was a suspect turned state-witness. Were it not for him Swazuri and team would be enjoying the mbesha.
That is why I am strongly convinced a whistle-blower compensation scheme would work wonders. From Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, Kidero-supreme court 200M bribe and many others only came out in the open courtesy of a disgruntled insider. David Munyakei was a messenger at CBK who looked at the goldenberg claims when photocopying them and felt sick in the stomach. He took a huge risk and forwarded the documents to Paul Muite. He lost his job and died a lonely, poor and dejected man. If we had given him 100M, how many more Munyakeis would have stepped forward like Meshack has done ?? At what point should a whistle blower be compensated? I don't think it would work because a real whistle blower in Kenya would be a sitting duck while there will be many fake whistle blowers being used for political gains. I still would not trust a Kenya whistle blower with benefits. For starters, look at the Goldenberg scandal that went on to breed the Goldenberg commission with lawyers & judges making millions a day from tax payers leaving Kenya bleeding even more with zero results. I still believe today the commission was an extension of the scam.
BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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2012 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Coolbull wrote:Meshack was a suspect turned state-witness. Were it not for him Swazuri and team would be enjoying the mbesha.
That is why I am strongly convinced a whistle-blower compensation scheme would work wonders. From Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, Kidero-supreme court 200M bribe and many others only came out in the open courtesy of a disgruntled insider. David Munyakei was a messenger at CBK who looked at the goldenberg claims when photocopying them and felt sick in the stomach. He took a huge risk and forwarded the documents to Paul Muite. He lost his job and died a lonely, poor and dejected man. If we had given him 100M, how many more Munyakeis would have stepped forward like Meshack has done ?? At what point should a whistle blower be compensated? I don't think it would work because a real whistle blower in Kenya would be a sitting duck while there will be many fake whistle blowers being used for political gains. I still would not trust a Kenya whistle blower with benefits. For starters, look at the Goldenberg scandal that went on to breed the Goldenberg commission with lawyers & judges making millions a day from tax payers leaving Kenya bleeding even more with zero results. I still believe today the commission was an extension of the scam. Goldenberg only went unpunished because Kibaki didn't want to open the skeleton cupboard. Had there been political goodwill, a good number of folks would have been jailed. The chair of that commision was a corrupt judge who was later found unfit to serve. Back to the Ruaraka saga, there is enough evidence to jail at least Mburu and NLC commissioners. On the contrary, Lilian Omollo and the rest of the nys gang may walk away scot-free. Just like it happened with the NYS-1 gang. You can't compare the evidence collected by investigators to what an insider can provide. When should a whistleblower be compensated ? Only when he provides concrete and actionable evidence leading either to recovery of lost money, prosecution of suspects or prevention of further loss. Michael's statement has alreday saved the government 1.7B that was to be paid to Mburu (balance of 3.2B). Right now, the JSC has enough to open investigations into the conduct of the judges mentioned. All the above is premised on the existence of a real desire to fight corruption. That is political goodwill and working investigative agencies.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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Kameshikwo......is it Friday?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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10% of 96 acres = 9.6acres. The schools are sitting on 13.7 acres.
13.7-9.6 = 4.1 acres. This doesn't add up.
It means the schools are not built on the 9.6 acres he set aside for social services but are built on private land. They should pay him ASAP.
Also even before they discuss if the schools are on the 10% reserve or not, they should first pay him for the extra 4.1 acres that has been encroached by the schools. 4.1 acres @ 400m = 1.64 billion. Wawekelee 1.64 B kwa meza kwanza before any discussions can begin.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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hardwood wrote: Wawekelee 1.64 B kwa meza kwanza before any discussions can begin. Kitu yenye itawekelewa juu ya meza ni maharagwe and there will be no discussion on whether he will eat the beans or not.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/13/2015 Posts: 1,658
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hardwood wrote:10% of 96 acres = 9.6acres. The schools are sitting on 13.7 acres.
13.7-9.6 = 4.1 acres. This doesn't add up.
It means the schools are not built on the 9.6 acres he set aside for social services but are built on private land. They should pay him ASAP.
Also even before they discuss if the schools are on the 10% reserve or not, they should first pay him for the extra 4.1 acres that has been encroached by the schools. 4.1 acres @ 400m = 1.64 billion. Wawekelee 1.64 B kwa meza kwanza before any discussions can begin. Your client is being processed for court appearance...wacha atasemea mbele. We don't have time for stori mrefu na cat-walking
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:10% of 96 acres = 9.6acres. The schools are sitting on 13.7 acres.
13.7-9.6 = 4.1 acres. This doesn't add up.
It means the schools are not built on the 9.6 acres he set aside for social services but are built on private land. They should pay him ASAP.
Also even before they discuss if the schools are on the 10% reserve or not, they should first pay him for the extra 4.1 acres that has been encroached by the schools. 4.1 acres @ 400m = 1.64 billion. Wawekelee 1.64 B kwa meza kwanza before any discussions can begin. Your client is being processed for court appearance...wacha atasemea mbele. We don't have time for stori mrefu na cat-walking You can't invade someones land then put him in jail. Or buy someones land then put him jail. If there is any issue with the purchase/payment it is those who bought/paid who should be explaining to their bosses the what, how, why regarding the purchase. For instance if i am selling my kaploti huko kitengela and I quote 20m and a buyer pays the agreed 20 million, and we conclude the deal, the buyer shouldn't involve me in their post-purchase domestic kitchen politics eti sijui the plot was overpriced, sijui buyer's wife was not consulted, sijui broker was paid amount x and other nonsense. The buyers should sort their upuzi quietly since they had a chance to verify all matters regarding the kaploti before purchase. Also note that my receipt has some small print that says that goods once sold cannot be returned. It's a free market, i quote my price and you either pay or fuack off. usiniletee upus.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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hardwood wrote:wukan wrote:hardwood wrote:10% of 96 acres = 9.6acres. The schools are sitting on 13.7 acres.
13.7-9.6 = 4.1 acres. This doesn't add up.
It means the schools are not built on the 9.6 acres he set aside for social services but are built on private land. They should pay him ASAP.
Also even before they discuss if the schools are on the 10% reserve or not, they should first pay him for the extra 4.1 acres that has been encroached by the schools. 4.1 acres @ 400m = 1.64 billion. Wawekelee 1.64 B kwa meza kwanza before any discussions can begin. Your client is being processed for court appearance...wacha atasemea mbele. We don't have time for stori mrefu na cat-walking You can't invade someones land then put him in jail. Or buy someones land then put him jail. If there is any issue with the purchase/payment it is those who bought/paid who should be explaining to their bosses the what, how, why regarding the purchase. For instance if i am selling my kaploti huko kitengela and I quote 20m and a buyer pays the agreed 20 million, and we conclude the deal, the buyer shouldn't involve me in their post-purchase domestic kitchen politics eti sijui the plot was overpriced, sijui buyer's wife was not consulted, sijui broker was paid amount x and other nonsense. The buyers should sort their upuzi quietly since they had a chance to verify all matters regarding the kaploti before purchase. Also note that my receipt has some small print that says that goods once sold cannot be returned. It's a free market, i quote my price and you either pay or fuack off. usiniletee upus. @hardwood, the parcel was never Mburu's in the first place. He was a lucky proxy of Mr. Philip Wahome together with a mister Maina. Read pg 14.
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