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Angelica _ann wrote:Kaigangio wrote:A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. Thanks & waiting for this part .........  The best way to split the African honey bee colony is; Get a hive complete with top bars or frames and put it next to the established hive or colony. Get your bee smoker ready because when you open the hive, the occupants will not take it lying down...smoke them to calm them. On the empty hive remove say 6 frames or top bars and place them on the side. In the established hive, look for the queen and highjack or beejack her and put her into a small well ventilated box which you can place in your pocket. Next, get two frames or top bars which are full of brood and eggs and place them into the new hive. Further get three frames or top bars full of honey and pollen and place them in the new hive and be sure to sandwich the brood and eggs combs with the honey and pollen combs.Do not shake off the bees. They should remain on the comb as you carry out the transfer. Be sure to leave some frames or top bars in the mother hive with plenty of eggs and larva which is not more than three days old. Replace the frames or the top bars in the mother hive with empty frames or top bars. Take some of the frames or bars with comb from the mother hive and shake the bees into the new hive. When you have gotten enough bees into the new hive, place the top cover of the mother hive. Next relocate your new hive a couple of steps away, remove the queen from your pocket and put her inside the new hive in between two brood and eggs frames or top bars and place the top cover. After this, this is where @Mukiri comes in handy. You can now call and tell him to either come for the new hive with a colony of bees or you deliver it yourself to his premises within the shortest time possible to prevent the bees in the new hive from going back to the mother hive. Note the Mukiri's premises must be more than 6 kilometres away. Now, one colony or hive has a queen and the other does not. What happens?. Stay tuned.. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Mukiri wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kaigangio wrote:tycho wrote:@Kaigangio, I have this question: Can humans and bees share a common language, such that @Angelica can simply tell these bees, to go to the desired tree or place, as long as it's mutually agreed? Yes. Humans can communicate with the bees. However, the interaction is not verbal but rather through actions. A good example is the one I have outlined above about moving bees from one point to another. If the bees don't like your idea of relocating them, they will abscond (vacate the hive and leave everything behind) and find another home or hive to colonize. A second basic example is when you want a colony of them bees to colonize your hive, you have to put it in a strategic and physically appealing location. Now, to convince those bee scouts which are out there looking for a new home that yours is better than your neighbour's, you will need to bait it by smeering wax onto top bars or frames or puting a few drops of nice smelling essential oil or putting one or two frames or top bars which are fully drawn with old comb or having all these together. If the scout bees like the hive they will go to the colony and perform their usual dance. A third example is when the colony has grown too large and either the bees have run out of space or the queen has run out of laying cells. The bees will construct the swarm cells (which are meant for rearing new virgin queens) in preparation for swarming. By increasing the amount of space, you are telling the bees not to swarm. If they agree with you, they will destroy the swarm cells and they will not swarm. If they don' t agree with you, the queen will leave the hive with half of the bees at the appropriate time without warning. If you destroy the queen cells yourself after you have provided the extra space, they may decide to stay. If they are annoyed with your actions, they will show you the middle finger and they will abscond. A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. Thanks & waiting for this part ......... She has been sold! The once-upon-a-time 'I don't want these bees', is sponging all available info @Mukiri...all is not lost. You can still get a hive full of bees after the colony split. Just promise her that you will take good care of the bees and in return she will get a can of honey occasionally ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Kaigangio wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kaigangio wrote:A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. Thanks & waiting for this part ......... The best way to split the African honey bee colony is; Get a hive complete with top bars or frames and put it next to the established hive or colony. Get your bee smoker ready because when you open the hive, the occupants will not take it lying down...smoke them to calm them. On the empty hive remove say 6 frames or top bars and place them on the side. In the established hive, look for the queen and highjack or beejack her and put her into a small well ventilated box which you can place in your pocket. Next, get two frames or top bars which are full of brood and eggs and place them into the new hive. Further get three frames or top bars full of honey and pollen and place them in the new hive and be sure to sandwich the brood and eggs combs with the honey and pollen combs.Do not shake off the bees. They should remain on the comb as you carry out the transfer. Be sure to leave some frames or top bars in the mother hive with plenty of eggs and larva which is not more than three days old. Replace the frames or the top bars in the mother hive with empty frames or top bars. Take some of the frames or bars with comb from the mother hive and shake the bees into the new hive. When you have gotten enough bees into the new hive, place the top cover of the mother hive. Next relocate your new hive a couple of steps away, remove the queen from your pocket and put her inside the new hive in between two brood and eggs frames or top bars and place the top cover. After this, this is where @Mukiri comes in handy. You can now call and tell him to either come for the new hive with a colony of bees or you deliver it yourself to his premises within the shortest time possible to prevent the bees in the new hive from going back to the mother hive. Note the Mukiri's premises must be more than 6 kilometres away. Now, one colony or hive has a queen and the other does not. What happens?. Stay tuned.. God bless you. Hives at 6k is abit too steep, if one dreams of tens or hundreds or thousands of hives. What are most economic options you'd recommend? I'm contemplating making this https://ladyleeshome.com...bar-hive-from-a-barrel/
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/11/2012 Posts: 5,222
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Kaigangio wrote:Mukiri wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Kaigangio wrote:tycho wrote:@Kaigangio, I have this question: Can humans and bees share a common language, such that @Angelica can simply tell these bees, to go to the desired tree or place, as long as it's mutually agreed? Yes. Humans can communicate with the bees. However, the interaction is not verbal but rather through actions. A good example is the one I have outlined above about moving bees from one point to another. If the bees don't like your idea of relocating them, they will abscond (vacate the hive and leave everything behind) and find another home or hive to colonize. A second basic example is when you want a colony of them bees to colonize your hive, you have to put it in a strategic and physically appealing location. Now, to convince those bee scouts which are out there looking for a new home that yours is better than your neighbour's, you will need to bait it by smeering wax onto top bars or frames or puting a few drops of nice smelling essential oil or putting one or two frames or top bars which are fully drawn with old comb or having all these together. If the scout bees like the hive they will go to the colony and perform their usual dance. A third example is when the colony has grown too large and either the bees have run out of space or the queen has run out of laying cells. The bees will construct the swarm cells (which are meant for rearing new virgin queens) in preparation for swarming. By increasing the amount of space, you are telling the bees not to swarm. If they agree with you, they will destroy the swarm cells and they will not swarm. If they don' t agree with you, the queen will leave the hive with half of the bees at the appropriate time without warning. If you destroy the queen cells yourself after you have provided the extra space, they may decide to stay. If they are annoyed with your actions, they will show you the middle finger and they will abscond. A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. Thanks & waiting for this part ......... She has been sold! The once-upon-a-time 'I don't want these bees', is sponging all available info @Mukiri...all is not lost. You can still get a hive full of bees after the colony split. Just promise her that you will take good care of the bees and in return she will get a can of honey occasionally Honey she(or anybody else willing to invest) will get. One for two @500/- a liter, until debt is fully paid. Thereafter, occasional honey and mead.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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tycho wrote:Kaigangio wrote:tycho wrote:@Kaigangio, I have this question: Can humans and bees share a common language, such that @Angelica can simply tell these bees, to go to the desired tree or place, as long as it's mutually agreed? Yes. Humans can communicate with the bees. However, the interaction is not verbal but rather through actions. A good example is the one I have outlined above about moving bees from one point to another. If the bees don't like your idea of relocating them, they will abscond (vacate the hive and leave everything behind) and find another home or hive to colonize. A second basic example is when you want a colony of them bees to colonize your hive, you have to put it in a strategic and physically appealing location. Now, to convince those bee scouts which are out there looking for a new home that yours is better than your neighbour's, you will need to bait it by smeering wax onto top bars or frames or puting a few drops of nice smelling essential oil or putting one or two frames or top bars which are fully drawn with old comb or having all these together. If the scout bees like the hive they will go to the colony and perform their usual dance. A third example is when the colony has grown too large and either the bees have run out of space or the queen has run out of laying cells. The bees will construct the swarm cells (which are meant for rearing new virgin queens) in preparation for swarming. By increasing the amount of space, you are telling the bees not to swarm. If they agree with you, they will destroy the swarm cells and they will not swarm. If they don' t agree with you, the queen will leave the hive with half of the bees at the appropriate time without warning. If you destroy the queen cells yourself after you have provided the extra space, they may decide to stay. If they are annoyed with your actions, they will show you the middle finger and they will abscond. A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. How many scouts are sent by a colony, and if more than one scout is sent, do the scouts go to one place? If more than one scout has been sent, how does the colony get to choose the best solution? @tycho, the scouts that go looking out for a new nesting place are just ordinary foraging female honeybees with an added responsibility. Originally they set out in groups of small numbers (tens) in all directions. If any of the group finds a suitable potential home then, after the waggle dance as explained, more scouts (in the hundreds) will fly to the premises for a thorough inspection. When they are satisfied that the nesting is perfect for the bees they will deliver the message to the waiting swarm, which will then move in and colonize it. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Kaigangio wrote:tycho wrote:Kaigangio wrote:tycho wrote:@Kaigangio, I have this question: Can humans and bees share a common language, such that @Angelica can simply tell these bees, to go to the desired tree or place, as long as it's mutually agreed? Yes. Humans can communicate with the bees. However, the interaction is not verbal but rather through actions. A good example is the one I have outlined above about moving bees from one point to another. If the bees don't like your idea of relocating them, they will abscond (vacate the hive and leave everything behind) and find another home or hive to colonize. A second basic example is when you want a colony of them bees to colonize your hive, you have to put it in a strategic and physically appealing location. Now, to convince those bee scouts which are out there looking for a new home that yours is better than your neighbour's, you will need to bait it by smeering wax onto top bars or frames or puting a few drops of nice smelling essential oil or putting one or two frames or top bars which are fully drawn with old comb or having all these together. If the scout bees like the hive they will go to the colony and perform their usual dance. A third example is when the colony has grown too large and either the bees have run out of space or the queen has run out of laying cells. The bees will construct the swarm cells (which are meant for rearing new virgin queens) in preparation for swarming. By increasing the amount of space, you are telling the bees not to swarm. If they agree with you, they will destroy the swarm cells and they will not swarm. If they don' t agree with you, the queen will leave the hive with half of the bees at the appropriate time without warning. If you destroy the queen cells yourself after you have provided the extra space, they may decide to stay. If they are annoyed with your actions, they will show you the middle finger and they will abscond. A fourth example is when you want to split a colony into two colonies. How many scouts are sent by a colony, and if more than one scout is sent, do the scouts go to one place? If more than one scout has been sent, how does the colony get to choose the best solution? @tycho, the scouts that go looking out for a new nesting place are just ordinary foraging female honeybees with an added responsibility. Originally they set out in groups of small numbers (tens) in all directions. If any of the group finds a suitable potential home then, after the waggle dance as explained, more scouts (in the hundreds) will fly to the premises for a thorough inspection. When they are satisfied that the nesting is perfect for the bees they will deliver the message to the waiting swarm, which will then move in and colonize it. Who gives the orders, and how are the orders relayed?
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