obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:The conversion price for the ARM shares was 40.
And vvs you were a fan of ARM.
Nope, not a fan (for a few years) but I have watched it with interest. I have no ARM shares though I do regret not buying them at 3/- in the late 90s. I have a few (insignificant) Bamburi bought back in the day.
Wait.. @vvs was trading stocks in the late 90s
#MzeeNiMimi so when you pretend to educate some of us on "history"
Firms grow and fall.
Barclays was UNTOUCHABLE. Even StanChart was a distant 2nd. KCB looked big but it was all fake profits under Kaminchia and Bii.
KQ was floundering at 8 [when I first bought them and the firm was doing well under Presbury. Naikuni rode the wave but then got greedy. Mudany (of KenGen) was CFO of KQ]
Bamburi saw profits SOAR after price controls were lifted. People like BC Patel made billions by being in the right place at the right time.
KPLC was 20/- and then soared to 200/- as tariffs were increased & after reforms including the removal of Gichuru.
KenGen ("Milkshake") brought the boys to the yard. Money poured into the NSE.
Hubris. Over-expansion [fast growth fueled by debt] can destroy a promising firm. Look at ARM or KQ.
Something similar happened with KenGen [huge debt until GoK converted debt to equity]. Or KPLC. As a rule, I do not like GoK firms coz of the poor financial performance and corruption. I have KenRe but I watch it as much as possible. If I feel things are going the other way, I will bail out.
EABL took on a lot of debt to get into TZ and it is paying a heavy price.
Unga almost went bankrupt when the interest rates soared. It sold the iconic Chester House and Unga House to pay down debt. It also sold Elianto [though I believe that was a shady deal].
Then scams like Merali's firms eg Firestone & Eveready.
Gems [not all is perfect all the time but on balance

] like Aga Khan firms.
Solid firms like BAT have done well. Very little debt vs the profitability of the firm.
Learn from history. That's why I became extremely wary of KQ in 2012 when I saw the presentation/info on "Project Mawingu" ... and I bailed out.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett