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#31 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2017 1:01:09 PM
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Joined: 12/9/2009
Posts: 6,592
Location: Nairobi
KulaRaha wrote:
Poor Balala, supporting the wrong side, he will have to wait for crumbs yet again.


I think Balala is either a very clever or very lucky fellow. He always seems to fall on his feet no matter how badly he screws up or is screwed.

BBI will solve it
:)
sitaki.kujulikana
#32 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2017 1:20:12 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 8/25/2012
Posts: 1,826
Swenani wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
In my limited knowledge there are two ways tthe WB works with the govt
1.Govt identifies projects and approaches WB for financing
2.WB identifies projects to finance and approaches govts for approval and concurence.

Swali ni who identified the projects Joho is talking about?


For the Coastal region and other regions considered to be hostile to the government, it is the later.


Then Choho is right

The wb is a monster, but generally they have an agenda, even their loans are usually pegged to certain 'issues' these are clearly made know to the host government and the latter is required to submit 'projects' that they need funding for, then the wb attaches more stringent measures for granting the same funds, but its the host government that has to submit the projects for consideration.
the above happens when it comes to loans, sijui if they give grants
hardwood
#33 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:13:06 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
In my limited knowledge there are two ways tthe WB works with the govt
1.Govt identifies projects and approaches WB for financing
2.WB identifies projects to finance and approaches govts for approval and concurence.

Swali ni who identified the projects Joho is talking about?


For the Coastal region and other regions considered to be hostile to the government, it is the later.


Then Choho is right

The wb is a monster, but generally they have an agenda, even their loans are usually pegged to certain 'issues' these are clearly made know to the host government and the latter is required to submit 'projects' that they need funding for, then the wb attaches more stringent measures for granting the same funds, but its the host government that has to submit the projects for consideration.
the above happens when it comes to loans, sijui if they give grants


The same procedure also applies to grants. The WB deals with national govts and the national govt is required to apply for funds for priority projects that need financing, and the projects should be within WB focus areas. The funding then comes in the form of low interest long term loans or grants, and the govt must also pay a certain percentage towards the project cost to show it's commitment - just like commercial banks demand a down payment before they can give you a mortgage. Therefore the WB cant just go to mombasa and start building a footbridge. The national govt has to apply for the funds and justify the project, and also make a certain contribution towards the project, irrespective of whether the funding is a loan or grant.

And yes its true that the WB attaches conditions to the funding, and closely monitors the projects, and disburses the funds in stages, and can cancel funding and demand a refund of funds already disbursed if a country messes up or doesnt adhere to the conditions. For instance when Baba ate the KKV funds where the WB was giving 4.3B for the Youth Empowerment Programme, the WB cancelled the funding and demanded the refund of the 970m that had already been disbursed. FYI that is the only time the WB has cancelled a project and demanded a refund, which goes to show how incompetent and thieving baba is.

https://www.standardmedi...-fire-over-missing-cash

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KulaRaha
#34 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:15:11 PM
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Joined: 7/26/2007
Posts: 6,514


Childish and juvenile.
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
hardwood
#35 Posted : Saturday, January 07, 2017 4:43:16 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
KulaRaha wrote:


Childish and juvenile.


Only an idiot would insult the CIC and still expect the CIC to continue deploying his officers to guard the said idiot. A fool should be left to wallow in his own foolishness. Ujinga has consequences.
Iganamagana
#36 Posted : Sunday, January 08, 2017 3:13:08 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 3/27/2009
Posts: 1,437
hardwood wrote:
sitaki.kujulikana wrote:
Swenani wrote:
urstill1 wrote:
Swenani wrote:
In my limited knowledge there are two ways tthe WB works with the govt
1.Govt identifies projects and approaches WB for financing
2.WB identifies projects to finance and approaches govts for approval and concurence.

Swali ni who identified the projects Joho is talking about?


For the Coastal region and other regions considered to be hostile to the government, it is the later.


Then Choho is right

The wb is a monster, but generally they have an agenda, even their loans are usually pegged to certain 'issues' these are clearly made know to the host government and the latter is required to submit 'projects' that they need funding for, then the wb attaches more stringent measures for granting the same funds, but its the host government that has to submit the projects for consideration.
the above happens when it comes to loans, sijui if they give grants


The same procedure also applies to grants. The WB deals with national govts and the national govt is required to apply for funds for priority projects that need financing, and the projects should be within WB focus areas. The funding then comes in the form of low interest long term loans or grants, and the govt must also pay a certain percentage towards the project cost to show it's commitment - just like commercial banks demand a down payment before they can give you a mortgage. Therefore the WB cant just go to mombasa and start building a footbridge. The national govt has to apply for the funds and justify the project, and also make a certain contribution towards the project, irrespective of whether the funding is a loan or grant.

And yes its true that the WB attaches conditions to the funding, and closely monitors the projects, and disburses the funds in stages, and can cancel funding and demand a refund of funds already disbursed if a country messes up or doesnt adhere to the conditions. For instance when Baba ate the KKV funds where the WB was giving 4.3B for the Youth Empowerment Programme, the WB cancelled the funding and demanded the refund of the 970m that had already been disbursed. FYI that is the only time the WB has cancelled a project and demanded a refund, which goes to show how incompetent and thieving baba is.

https://www.standardmedi...-fire-over-missing-cash

..




smile
faa
#37 Posted : Sunday, January 08, 2017 3:39:32 PM
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Joined: 5/8/2007
Posts: 709
hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:


Childish and juvenile.


Only an idiot would insult the CIC and still expect the CIC to continue deploying his officers to guard the said idiot. A fool should be left to wallow in his own foolishness. Ujinga has consequences.



Joho didnt insult anybody. He just stated the truth,that Bored and idle whilst holidaying on taxpayers money in Mombasa when the rest of the country has resumed work, President Uhuru Kenyatta asked to open a dead project, conceptualised in 2010,by the world bank and funded by the world bank via loan(not grant)

Whats clear is the jubilee is now jubaland,this year they will get very little votes from the coast

It childish and lack of sense to withdraw Joho's security. When you do that, voters see it and come the ballot, they will vote Jubaland out.

When uhuru went to Nyeri recently, he wiped out coffee loans to farmers, when he was in Mombasa he said those squatters will have to cough each 100k

its this kind of double standards that will make Uhuru lose this year , and if he dares to steal, then katanuka!!!!
sparkly
#38 Posted : Sunday, January 08, 2017 4:32:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
faa wrote:
hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:


Childish and juvenile.


Only an idiot would insult the CIC and still expect the CIC to continue deploying his officers to guard the said idiot. A fool should be left to wallow in his own foolishness. Ujinga has consequences.



Joho didnt insult anybody. He just stated the truth,that Bored and idle whilst holidaying on taxpayers money in Mombasa when the rest of the country has resumed work, President Uhuru Kenyatta asked to open a dead project, conceptualised in 2010,by the world bank and funded by the world bank via loan(not grant)

Whats clear is the jubilee is now jubaland,this year they will get very little votes from the coast

It childish and lack of sense to withdraw Joho's security. When you do that, voters see it and come the ballot, they will vote Jubaland out.

When uhuru went to Nyeri recently, he wiped out coffee loans to farmers, when he was in Mombasa he said those squatters will have to cough each 100k

its this kind of double standards that will make Uhuru lose this year , and if he dares to steal, then katanuka!!!!


This Kibaki/ World Bank project... They should asked Kibaki and the World Bank president to open it then.
Life is short. Live passionately.
sparkly
#39 Posted : Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:06:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:


Childish and juvenile.


Only an idiot would insult the CIC and still expect the CIC to continue deploying his officers to guard the said idiot. A fool should be left to wallow in his own foolishness. Ujinga has consequences.


A basic rule of power is that you should never offend a man of power, moreso when that man has gone to Vague and back. Choho should know better esp given the kind of company he keeps in his clean businesses.
Life is short. Live passionately.
murchr
#40 Posted : Sunday, January 08, 2017 5:18:10 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
sparkly wrote:
faa wrote:
hardwood wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:


Childish and juvenile.


Only an idiot would insult the CIC and still expect the CIC to continue deploying his officers to guard the said idiot. A fool should be left to wallow in his own foolishness. Ujinga has consequences.



Joho didnt insult anybody. He just stated the truth,that Bored and idle whilst holidaying on taxpayers money in Mombasa when the rest of the country has resumed work, President Uhuru Kenyatta asked to open a dead project, conceptualised in 2010,by the world bank and funded by the world bank via loan(not grant)

Whats clear is the jubilee is now jubaland,this year they will get very little votes from the coast

It childish and lack of sense to withdraw Joho's security. When you do that, voters see it and come the ballot, they will vote Jubaland out.

When uhuru went to Nyeri recently, he wiped out coffee loans to farmers, when he was in Mombasa he said those squatters will have to cough each 100k

its this kind of double standards that will make Uhuru lose this year , and if he dares to steal, then katanuka!!!!


This Kibaki/ World Bank project... They should asked Kibaki and the World Bank president to open it then.


When Kibaki retired, he handed over the instruments of the presidency to Uhuru. Kibaki is not paying up the loan, its the people/govt of Kenya

The argument was so foolish...but since we're D material, that is what will fascinate us for days.
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