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Family Bank?
obiero
#61 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:46:05 AM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,499
Location: nairobi
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#62 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2021 9:14:05 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,499
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#63 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2021 9:46:41 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,678
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
maka
#64 Posted : Monday, June 14, 2021 10:10:36 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.



possunt quia posse videntur
obiero
#65 Posted : Tuesday, June 15, 2021 9:21:18 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,499
Location: nairobi
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.




Yes. Plus why would they borrow at such a high rate while they lend at 13%

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#66 Posted : Tuesday, June 15, 2021 10:33:14 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,678
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.




Yes. Plus why would they borrow at such a high rate while they lend at 13%


They are using treasury bond of 5 years as a guide then put a margin on top
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#67 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2021 8:27:18 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,499
Location: nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.




Yes. Plus why would they borrow at such a high rate while they lend at 13%


They are using treasury bond of 5 years as a guide then put a margin on top

Their loans would be too costly in the market. Tier I cost of funds averages max 6%

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#68 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2021 3:34:45 PM
Rank: Elder


Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,678
Location: NAIROBI
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.




Yes. Plus why would they borrow at such a high rate while they lend at 13%


They are using treasury bond of 5 years as a guide then put a margin on top

Their loans would be too costly in the market. Tier I cost of funds averages max 6%



The previous corporate bond which they retired in April had the following features;
Amount:Ksh.2 billion
Tenure:5.5 years
Interest/coupon:13.75%

Now they are borrowing at a lower rate compared to the previous one.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
Gadaffi
#69 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2021 5:27:14 PM
Rank: Member


Joined: 2/13/2011
Posts: 284
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
maka wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
muganda wrote:
Bravery is Family Bank posting q3 2016 Tragedy on their site
http://familybank.co.ke/wp-cont...cial-Results-Q3-2016.pdf

Low-lights:
- loans and advances back to FY 2015 level
- amount in government securities shrank 23%
- owing due to CBK 2.27bn; other borrowed funds up 3bn

- customer deposits down 15%

- loan loss provisions up five-fold
- gross non-performing loans doubled
- loans to directors/shareholders/associates up 61%




This looks like a clear candidate for takeover



Takeover or closure??

A 13% bond, for a tier II bank which made a half billion loss three years ago. All the best


Ksh.4 billion plus the interest they will pay without hiccup in the stipulated timeline


Net of WHT this comes to 11.05%

The only reason would be the tenor... Apart from that nothing interesting at all.




Yes. Plus why would they borrow at such a high rate while they lend at 13%

The bank serves largely micro and medium businesses. Interest rate for this segment is above 13%. GoK actually caps lending to this segment at 17% through their fund.
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